Spells for Clarity Insight Focus Understanding Calm Bad Temper Reduce Anger End Grudges

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:05 am

Yes, I believe Mary (LiteraryLioness) talked about using it as a revenge tactic, rather then actual return work. Perhaps ConjureMan could expand on that idea, too.

If you dig around the IS threads, you may be able to find that original reference. It was actually the one way I thought was a good idea to use the IS! (Because generally my opinion is that if you're having to send demons after someone to get them to come back, chances are they're not someone who's a good match for you in the first place and you're better off finding someone who is actually a good partner for you. It's better for everyone in the long run. But that's just my opinion.)

Katie_Did1111 · Unread post by **Katie_Did1111** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:40 am

jujugiggles wrote:Yes, I believe Mary (LiteraryLioness) talked about using it as a revenge tactic, rather then actual return work. [...] It was actually the one way I thought was a good idea to use the IS! (Because generally my opinion is that if you're having to send demons after someone to get them to come back, chances are they're not someone who's a good match for you in the first place and you're better off finding someone who is actually a good partner for you. It's better for everyone in the long run.

EXACTLY.

Honestly I doubt I'll do it any time soon-- my hate du jour is an abusive drug addict and I have a restraining order against him, and while part of me loves *imagining* the effects of the IS spell on him after all the sick things he did to me, I've addressed it in other ways because obviously any revenge work that would incite this scumbag to come near me ever again would be an astronomically stupid idea.

But it's always good to know your options. *g*

~K

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:52 am

Yeah, you definitely would NOT want to incite obsession in someone you already have a retraining order against!

MightyAphrodite · Unread post by **MightyAphrodite** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:04 pm

Cut and Clear helps you emotionally let go, but it also helps you attract someone new! The underlying premise of the work is that you get to keep the good things you liked about the person (in the form a new and improved person) while cutting out the crap you never want again. You win and you win!

PS: May take more than one round of it btw. Did for me, but wow the last one really truly helped me let go of all the "missing the good parts" feelings that lingered.

Katie_Did1111 · Unread post by **Katie_Did1111** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:10 pm

jujugiggles wrote:Yeah, you definitely would NOT want to incite obsession in someone you already have a retraining order against!

Yeah. Plus considering the stuff I opted to do instead, there are a few spirits and saints who would *not* be amused with me. Lol

~K

Katie_Did1111 · Unread post by **Katie_Did1111** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:18 pm

I didn't mean to hijack your thread, BrujitaAngelical. I'm sorry. Did you get the help you needed?

~K

Brujita Angelical · Unread post by **Brujita Angelical** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:43 am

its ok. I dont know i guess Cut and Clear is the only way....

today is my birthday and I was curious to see if he would leave me a commnet on my page or text me but i was going to delete him tomorrow and start fresh. Yesterday I said to hell with it I am deleting you today and JUST as i was going to click delete he left ma a sweet message saying he hopes all my dreams comes true! Who can understand this individual?? I mean yes i did a honey jar and still am burning the reversal vigil but this roller coaster is making me nauseous. I've been told more than once he is "the one" but for now at least I need to walk away, heal, get my self confidence back and hopefully meet someone new. Eventually if he is for me itll work itself out but doing so much work magickal and none magickal is draining so Cut and Clear should be good because I dont want to never not see him again, but i want to heal and not be affected if I DO see him, and him dating other people. i want my power back, my sex appeal!!

On another note yesterday i was thinking of doing a vinegar jar for him and that girl he is getting close with "dating". I dont know my reasoning for that really since I am trying to cut adn clear myself. Then I said "agh forget it, the only way i would do it now is if I found some random rusty nails on the floor! (yea right) not wasting my time" then walking home i was thinking of him and i had JUST discovered the love of his life on his page! that he just added The one he never got over (i thought it a sign to move on). So i said "ugh and here i was going to do a vinegar jay on the randowm floosy when his ex love is back in the picture, that would mean I'd ave to do two jars.ugh." and as i walked right in front of my path and feet layed a RUSTY NAIL on the sidewalk!!! the cleanest nicest neighrborhood too. i was like really??? really God/Goddess?!!! what the heck do you want from meeeee

i dont know. i really DON'T know!!!!!!!!! sorry this got long

Im going to keep filling up my cart.....cut and clear, healing....i guess.....

miz_michelle · Unread post by **miz_michelle** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:49 am

Happy Birthday!..and sorry to hear about your situation. I just ordered a St. Martha fixed candle, oil and incense powder for my 'beast', and the Fiery Wall of Protection kit. I wonder if that would help your situation too? There are a few variations of the spell, from what I understand, that may be beneficial? I'm trying it myself to get rid of alot of negative energy, and keep more from coming in. I really believe that God is keeping score for us. He knows what these men are putting us through, and they won't get by with it forever.

Take care and God Bless

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:19 pm

BA, I am sorry you are going through such an emotional rollercoaster. Love work, especially reconciliation work is considered tough for this reason. Reconciliation work is hard because of the emotional pain and emotional rollercoaster the petitioner goes through. Stay strong and spend some time loving yourself.

If readers indicate that he is the one then it may be that he just isn't the one right now. He and you both may need time to grow and mature until he's ready to give you the love your deserve. Have faith, it shall work out for the best.

Best wishes.

sassafrassblonde · Unread post by **sassafrassblonde** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:10 am

I have to tell you, I went through a similar situation about 3 years ago.
I finally went back to Ms. Cat's book and did the Cut N Clear, and the Walnut bath she tells of.
(she sells the walnuts as well.) Wow. What a difference.
Not only did I get over him less painfully, but 2 wonderful men came into my life almost simultaniously.
I started to feel like my old self almost immediately. And I didn't worry about him or his life anymore. Anyone who treats you thus is not worth the emotions you spend grieving.

Sassy

Brujita Angelical · Unread post by **Brujita Angelical** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:12 am

thank you everyone for you replies!!!

MightyAphrodite wrote:Cut and Clear helps you emotionally let go, but it also helps you attract someone new! The underlying premise of the work is that you get to keep the good things you liked about the person (in the form a new and improved person) while cutting out the crap you never want again. You win and you win!

PS: May take more than one round of it btw. Did for me, but wow the last one really truly helped me let go of all the "missing the good parts" feelings that lingered.

oh I had not seen this reply since I look from my cell phone! Thank you MA that sounds like what I need. He has great qualities and can be sweet but his behavior is so erratic that he may be bipolar in which case its too draining for me at this point. but I love a lot of his qualities and that is what make its harder to move on. but if Cut and clear will help bring in a new person that has those qualities then i will proceed to do that!

ConjureMan wrote: Stay strong and spend some time loving yourself.
...it may be that he just isn't the one right now. He and you both may need time to grow and mature until he's ready to give you the love your deserve. Have faith, it shall work out for the best.

Best wishes.

thank you CM you have a point, i do think it may be a question of time and growth. i honestly feel like maybe i should explore other options and compare and he has to know what it feels like to lose me also. And he needs to heal from his first love because it seems like he's not over her and I'm not going to change my personality to be some other woman! I dont know I just want some peace for now.I wish it could work out but as things are now i dont see how thats even possible....

Brujita Angelical · Unread post by **Brujita Angelical** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:17 am

sassafrassblonde wrote:I have to tell you, I went through a similar situation about 3 years ago.
I finally went back to Ms. Cat's book and did the Cut N Clear, and the Walnut bath she tells of.
(she sells the walnuts as well.) Wow. What a difference.
Not only did I get over him less painfully, but 2 wonderful men came into my life almost simultaniously.
I started to feel like my old self almost immediately. And I didn't worry about him or his life anymore. Anyone who treats you thus is not worth the emotions you spend grieving.

Sassy

I am so glad to hear it worked for you! question, I may be wrong but doesnt the walnut bath cut all ties to that person so that you never see them again or have contact with them at all? i actually dont want to do that because if he is for me that would ruin our chances to get together in the future. What I really want and need is to get rid of the pain and anger and the pain i feel when i see him with his new conquests

i want to move and and not be affected by him if i do see him or run into him (chances are slim that i ever will) and I want to give myself a chance to meet a wonderful man who can give me what i want and need NOW. Im so tired of being hurt and alone. it sux frankly.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:34 am

Brujita Angelical wrote: I am so glad to hear it worked for you! question, I may be wrong but doesnt the walnut bath cut all ties to that person so that you never see them again or have contact with them at all? i actually dont want to do that because if he is for me that would ruin our chances to get together in the future. What I really want and need is to get rid of the pain and anger and the pain i feel when i see him with his new conquests i want to move and and not be affected by him if i do see him or run into him (chances are slim that i ever will) and I want to give myself a chance to meet a wonderful man who can give me what i want and need NOW. Im so tired of being hurt and alone. it sux frankly.

The black walnut bath will not insure that you never see the person again, only that the person will mean nothing to you, seeing him have no effect on you. He be less consequential then dirt under your foot. Its a wonderful bath in the right situations. If you do it, you're not going to hook up with him ever again, but why would you want to? He doesn't sound like a class act. And after the bath you won't want to get back together and you'll be ready to move on.

sassafrassblonde · Unread post by **sassafrassblonde** » Thu May 06, 2010 9:57 am

I used the walnut bath as well as the 'cut and clear' to get myself out of a damaging emotional situation. It was bad for me. I had to make a clean break.
I have seen the man a few times since then, and he was nothing more emotionally to me than a stranger on the street....which he was very surprised at. If you want to cut the emotional ties, these things work.
I am now with a terrific loving man.

Sassy

freegirl · Unread post by **freegirl** » Thu May 06, 2010 12:06 pm

what if you want to cut emotional ties and end pain but leave a door open in case a situation changes?

Brujita Angelical · Unread post by **Brujita Angelical** » Thu May 06, 2010 1:14 pm

freegirl wrote:what if you want to cut emotional ties and end pain but leave a door open in case a situation changes?

I think Miss Bri told me that that is what I could use the Cut and Clear for. it does not take the person away forever, it only takes the feelings away so if they come back you can decide with a clearer head if you really want them or not. I think thats what she told me, though she speaks a bit fast so I hope i got it right

Anyway that's what I want, no more pain and to think clearly about things. If he comes back later on if its meant to be great but I am not trying to be a lap dog

For me its not normal to be feeling this much hatred towards him. yes he behaved poorly but what i feel is way exagerated hatred and I need that gone for good. Who knows someone might've done a vinegar jar on us for all I know so I want the pain and anger to dissapear and I want peace back.

just-a-girl · Unread post by **just-a-girl** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:40 pm

I'm not sure how to handle this. What type of works can be done on a male who needs a lot of attention from females? He feeds off of it. He flirts and chats up these women, usually some new woman he just met...he craves the attention from them. On one particular occasion, it has put him in perilous situation, wherein the female actually stalked him. This caused him to back off on his flirting for a short while, but now it is picking back up again.

I know it is a huge boost to his ego, and he seems to crave it...bordering on addicted to this attention. These women will call and text him over and over again, even when he doesn't respond back.

Now, don't get me wrong, he's not an evil person and is not setting out to hurt anyone. It seems at times like he just can't help himself.

This need for attention also occurs in other aspects of his life - revving his car so people stare at him (he has a very nice car and loves to brag about how much it is worth, even to complete strangers) is just one example. But his need for attention from females is huge and is causing the most problem in his life.

I am already working on the healing aspect for this target, but I'm not sure how to approach this issue. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
JAG

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:32 pm

Why did you choose Healing?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:37 pm

Some people just like attention. Period. It's part of their personality. Are you trying to land this man for yourself? If so, then you better either accept him the way he is, rather than hope to change him. Flirts will always be flirts, even though the intensity of that aspect of their personality can ebb and flow.

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:12 pm

Hi Everyone.. Happy Friday!!! Busy week for me and I appreciate all of the great advice you have all provided for my work.

I have a friend who is gorgeous.. she's a former model, and in her late 30s. yet, despite the fact she's still beautiful and is constantly receiving compliments.. she is so insecure. Every other female is competition and a threat to her in her mind. She admits this and has asked for my help.

Personally, I use Look Me Over for myself when I'm feeling blah or Follow Me Boy when I want attention.. but I don't think this is what she needs. She doesn't need anything to get attention or be pretty.. she needs to exorcise the green eyed monster from her own head and realize how every other woman is not going to "dethrone" her.

Any suggestions are appreciated...

Light & Love to all of you,

SP

Buttercup · Unread post by **Buttercup** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:54 pm

Cast off evil comes to mind,since this is a negative behavior and she knows it is,so you're treating it like a bad habit. I would also do some work that will help her love herself more. There's a recent thread about making a honey jar for yourself. This sounds like a good idea to me. Love me could be a good choice too,if you use it with the intention to make her love herself more. I wouldn't use anything to draw attention or love from others her way,since the problem is insecurity,and,speaking from experience,when you are insecure about yourself no amount of attention will make that go away. The change has to come from within.

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:59 pm

I second what Buttercup is saying. I made my living for years off my looks as well, and I look no where near what I used to look like. Despite everyone telling me I'm still attractive, I know what I did look like and I certainly don't feel attractive now.

Perhaps Clarity to help her see herself realistically and not through the warped lens of the fashion/modeling world? I don't know if Tranquility is designed to help a person find peace within themselves, but perhaps that too.

Looking forward to hear what those more experienced with LM's products have to say.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:04 pm

I would go for some healing products, and some clarity.

Scorpio Siren · Unread post by **Scorpio Siren** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:54 am

any ideas on how to smack someone upside the head so they will open their eyes and realize that they are losing a really great girl?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:06 am

Clarity &/or King Solomon Wisdom - use them on candles, or doll baby, or skull candle, etc.

Scorpio Siren · Unread post by **Scorpio Siren** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:53 am

got it -

Thanks Devi - you are always such a great help

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:57 am

...good suggestions Devi...

lotusflower · Unread post by **lotusflower** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:17 am

What color for the skull candle would you use in something like this? Pink because it has to do with love, or white because of clarity?

lotusflower · Unread post by **lotusflower** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:17 am

What color for the skull candle would you use in something like this? Pink because it has to do with love, or white because of clarity?

DrXTheRebirth · Unread post by **DrXTheRebirth** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:19 am

I would go with white since it seems to be all purpose.

lotusflower · Unread post by **lotusflower** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:20 am

Thanks, that's what I was thinking too. Perfect!

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:29 pm

Definately Clarity and Wisdom of King Solomon on a skull candle. Sage should be included as well. I would heat up some needles in the flame and prick the skull candle a few times a night and tell him that its the prick of his conscience.

Scorpio Siren · Unread post by **Scorpio Siren** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:31 pm

Conjureman - I must say that you totally raq! Thank you always your incredulous knowledge

Unread post by **Miss Phoenix** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:27 pm

Was wondering about a spell for this, just CM you are totally the best!!

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:46 am

A conjure that was shown to me by a member of AIRR and also influenced by Draja Mickahric is great for getting someone to really take a look at themselves. Use a doll baby with a mix of Clarity and Compelling herbs and products. Take a pocket mirror and wash it in ammonia then five spot it with Compelling and Clarity oil then either place the doll baby in front of that mirror while praying for them to take a hard look at themselves, or wrap the doll baby--facing the mirror--in some aluminum foil.

I've also smoked the mirror after washing it in a mix of those incenses and that worked out great.

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:32 am

ConjureMan wrote:A conjure that was shown to me by a member of AIRR and also influenced by Draja Mickahric is great for getting someone to really take a look at themselves. Use a doll baby with a mix of Clarity and Compelling herbs and products. Take a pocket mirror and wash it in ammonia then five spot it with Compelling and Clarity oil then either place the doll baby in front of that mirror while praying for them to take a hard look at themselves, or wrap the doll baby--facing the mirror--in some aluminum foil.

I've also smoked the mirror after washing it in a mix of those incenses and that worked out great.

CM, you really are a wealth of information and ideas! This sounds like a fantastic thing to use on my husband to try to get him to see the chaos his lies and deceit cause. Once again, thank you so much for sharing with us!

nena1974 · Unread post by **nena1974** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:37 am

could i use a doll baby that i'm already working with? he is stuffed with love herbs and his head is stuffed with clarity and king of solomon?

AmaSarah · Unread post by **AmaSarah** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:07 am

Hi, I think I would like to give these ideas a shot on my own case (I normally post under "He keeps coming, but he just doesnt stay) but I don't have Clarity or Wisdom of King Solomon oil on hand. I would have to use household ingredients or fairly common herbs.

Would the skull candle be effective if I used sage only? and the only compelling herb I have for the mirror/dollbaby conjure would be licorice. Would it have any effect at all?

thanks

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:47 pm

That is entirely up to you. It doesn't matter how *much* herbs and oils you use, but the *right* ones. Many rootworkers know intuitively which condition products and what amount/mix of herbs would have the best chances of success on a target. I would suggest doing a quick divination to see if these would be good for you case.

There are times when a small bit of Sage is enough and other times that require a bit more of a mix in order to hit the target just right.

And remember it isn't about tossing some Sage and Licorice on a candle, but getting those herbs to work for you.

Beach · Unread post by **Beach** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:58 pm

but... any tips on how to get the herbs to work for you? I mean, I ask them to. nicely and politely and sometimes desperately (haha) but do you have any suggestions on how to make that connection? I'm sure it's very individual but if you have any pointers.

thanks...

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:08 pm

Everyone gets the spirits moving in different ways. This forum is not aimed towards the theoretical aspect of conjure, however I can tell you there are several Draja Mickaharic books available through LM that you can purchase. He mentions a few tips and pointers on working conjure in those books.

There is also a book on successful prayer that LM sells, but the name elludes me at this moment. Look through the book selection of LM and you'll find some good ones.

Visiting different prayer groups and watching different prayer meetings or sermons isn't a bad idea either. You can learn how different people pray from Baptists to Catholics, to Evangelicals. Find what stirrs your heart.

My best advice is stop worrying about the form of prayer and instead get into the spirit of prayer. Open up your heart and just call out! God and the Spirits will hear you.

GIFTEDHANDS · Unread post by **GIFTEDHANDS** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:54 pm

Any advice on how to stop or decrease arguments?
Thanks

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:22 pm

Peaceful Home products work nicely.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:53 pm

You can also spray Peace Water around the area --

http://luckymojo.com/peacewater.html

And put everyone's name in a sugar or honey jar together --

http://luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:44 pm

You didn't mention any circumstances...work place or home...as their are several conjures to use are they can be mixed to suit the situation...

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:27 pm

Spraying Peace Water works wonderfully to keep people calm, peaceful, and loving in a home. If you lay out some Peace Water by your door it will ensure that all who come to your home come with intentions of peace.

If there are a group of people specifically needing to calm down toss their personal concerns and your petition right into a bottle with Peace Water.

For a specific residence, wash it down with Chinese Wash, smoke it with Peaceful Home incense or do a drawing wash where you draw the peacefulness in towards your home. Follow this up by spraing some Peace Water around your residence and that'll settle things down nicely.

GIFTEDHANDS · Unread post by **GIFTEDHANDS** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:00 am

Thanks evevyone, Great Advice as usual !!

Rosette · Unread post by **Rosette** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:10 pm

I have someone very close to me who has cut ties with me due to vicious rumors started by his own family & friends. They are very controlling & manipulative of him, and to some point he does see it (he admitted the HUGE differences his entire family, especially his mother, made between the treatment of his brother, sister & their spouses compared to he and I), but he still refuses to see the full extent of it & the impact it is having on his entire life. He is a man in his mid 20's who is completely under his mother/families control & whenever I would try to bring it up to him, to open his eyes and help him break free of them, it only inspired fighting between us. Now, after a vicious rumor started by them he has svered his close ties to me. We still speak via text now & again, but I want what we had back. I was wondering what would be the best course of action in order to expose the truth & make him see it was a lie & also help him see how his family is controling & ruining his life (no perfectly capable 20-something should have a curfew, or be told who he is allowed to spend time with).

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:24 pm

LM Stop Gossip for you. (so they will stop saying bad things about you)
If he is 20 something with obvious close ties to the family, I know where you are going and I get it. But-- THAT IS HIS FAMILY-- to HIM..
He will probably always remain controlled in SOME fashion. He is not ready to grow up or fly the coop!!

Rosette · Unread post by **Rosette** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:36 pm

I understand what you're saying Triplethreat. I know he'll always be attached to them in some way & that's fine, I just wanted to know if there was a way to possibly lessen it or get him to stand up for himself. His mother is emotionaly abusive & it just kills me to see him be hurt by her time & time again. Tbanks for tbe tip of the LM product. I'll need to get it as soon as possible.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:41 pm

Here is Stop Gossip http://www.luckymojo.com/stopgossip.html

This has been discussed several times on the forum, you might also consider Crucible of Courage for him...http://www.luckymojo.com/crucibleofcourage.html

Rosette · Unread post by **Rosette** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:53 pm

Thanks, I really appreciate all of the suggestions.

mojojake · Unread post by **mojojake** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:35 pm

San Cipriano reveals wrongdoings. In the prayers to San Cipriano, it mentions that San Cipriano has the power to make wrong doers confess their sins and beg for forgiveness. You might try invoking him, his candle color is purple

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:45 pm

What about some clarity work so he can see what they're doing + some CofC so he can do something about it once he sees?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:02 pm

I think that is a great recommendation Ellis19. In addition, be aware that sometimes there are values (culturally) where we would perceive it as manipulating such as a curfew...is just apart of their customs and values. However, you could work some clarity and crucible of courage work as mentioned, but beware that that might be enough if he has just be accustomed to it his entire life.

Rosette · Unread post by **Rosette** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:41 am

Thanks again for all of the suggestions everyone. I understand that with the examples given (I'm just too frazzled to think as well as possible right now) it may not seem as dire of a situation, but it's things like not letting he and I sleep on the floor of a room full of people side by side (which is a value, understood didn't have a problem with it at the time), BUT they let his little brother &'his fiance sleep in the same bed ALONE many a time & it was well known that they have very different values/beliefs than the parents. It was just things like that that drove me up a wall & then he'd actually say that he thought differently about a situation than they did (politely, just a "well mom, I don't think of it that way, it's like this...see?") he was 'sass mouthin' & 'needed to ge the hell out if he was such a big boy', though his little brother OPENLY yelled & cursed at their father while the mother simply tried to console him & say "Hush, baby! Don't talk to daddy like that, that's mean. Come tell mommy what's wrong." (VERBATIM this one time, I kid you folk not). It's just a veey frustrating situation, but thanks again for all of your help. I'll be reading up on the products mentioned & ordering the ones best suited for me soon.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:19 am

Rosette, Ellis19 and Stars bring up a valid point I had not considered.

Good luck with your work and you will love the LM products!!!

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:15 pm

Rosette, I empathize with you, I've been through that with my ex, his family hated me for no other reason than I existed, so I do get the gravity of your situation. What I suggest, and do I wish I had this knowledge back when I could have used it, is to use clarity + CofC on him, some stop gossip for you (I would use the the honey jar, that way to sweeten them to you on top of it) and some peaceful home for around his family even if it's just the oil as a perfume.

Rosette · Unread post by **Rosette** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:40 pm

Thanks you SO much, Ellis (lovely name btw). I'm sorry you had to put up with this brand of b.s too, it's maddening at times. I'll be ordering the supplies suggested next payday & try to get things back to normal, or, hopefully, even better than they were before.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:50 pm

It is awful to put up with, I only get solace by the fact that I know the woman he left me for is getting it a thousand times worse than I did, her still being married and all. I'd also like to point out if I may, and don't feel bad it's a very common mistake, but it's Eilis, not Ellis.
Anyhow, I do hope you get your situation under control, families can ruin even the strongest relationships by sticking their noses where they don't belong.