Too Many Spells, Spell Burn-Out, Spell Overload

Unread post by **heidiroseholton** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:43 am

CuriousIndigo,

Let that glass break!! It can be scary the first couple of times it happens, but you should let your vigil candles burn all the way. Miss Cat showed us a bunch of vigil candles at the apprenticeship that had broken, cracked, or were absolutely covered in soot inside. That is where candle divination comes in - the way your candle burns helps you to assess the work and decide what your next step should be.

Definitely pick up a copy of the candle magic book JayDee recommended. And figure out a safe set up just in case you have a candle that breaks. A small metal washtub filled with sand is a good option!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:10 am

CuriousIndigo,

I have burned many many candles and of them maybe 2-3 total of broke, most broke at the top where it got the most hot from the energy leaving. The rest and I think iv burned a few 100 of them burned with out breaking. I let them burn out and read signs in the glass as well. I also keep mine in a safe space when not in the house like a tub, which they are in a pyrex glass dish you can fill the dish with sand, if it breaks it will go into the sand and be absorbed. Hope this helps.

Unread post by **Edward T** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:12 am

CuriousIndigo,
I agree with heidiroseholton. Let the vigil candles burn all the way. If the glass breaks, spirit is trying to tell you something.
Have a great day. Edward T

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:10 pm

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CuriousIndigo · Unread post by **CuriousIndigo** » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:07 pm

I just received Uncrossing and Fiery wall of protection Vigil candles.

Should I start with Uncrossing first and then FWP?

Or can I lit them both at the same time?

Also, talking about fire safe container when I’m not home, I’m thinking of placing the candle on an aluminum foil BBQ pan with some mini crystal cat litter. Would that be ok?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:33 pm

CuriousIndigo ,

I would do both at the same time, for as the uncrossing removes negative conditions, fiery wall of protection would protect you and keep you save from new attacks or reversing work.

A tin is an option as you mentioned with sand. Don't use water. When i'm not home I stick mine in the tub (its metal with brick) and remove anything that is a fire hazard.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:16 pm

CuriousIndigo --

See the thread on fire safety here:

Fire Safety Issues with Candle Magic
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Mark777 · Unread post by **Mark777** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:24 am

Would it be ok to burn 2 candles at once ? I have 2 targets i would like to come to me. Is ot ok to work two targets at the same time?

Thank you for your help.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:41 pm

Mark777 ,

Yes you can burn both at the same time, just spend personal time praying over each candle with the specific petition. Make sure you are clear about the petition you are praying and doing it over the right candle.

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:52 pm

Hi Mark777,

Personally, I perform one candle spell per person at a time. If you are working two targets, work them separately on separate days or at separate times, to avoid scattering your energy too much and reducing your chance of success with either of them.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:47 pm

Mark777,

If you are burning 7 day candles it is ok to burn them at the same time, but make sure to give the attention to that candle when doing the work It seems your case may be one of two options to date and want to open the roads and paths for both of them and let the best one win. If they are figure candles then I would follow Miss Athena advice and burn them at separate times since you cant work them both at the same time. It depends which candle choice you are using: votive or figure, taper candle.
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Pyromancer · Unread post by **Pyromancer** » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:58 pm

I have an issue that has been going on this past month. People are contacting me pretending they want rootwork done, using me for psychic readings, and then running away after they used me for a reading without any form of payment. They are flat out taking advantage of my kindness.

Yesterday somebody met with me at a coffee shop, told me they wanted work done and then said they wanted a reading when I said that I would not be reading till January.

My energy is being sucked and used up by these scamming users. I can’t even get out of bed and feel run down and very fatigued all day. I did cleanse myself many times.

What spell can I do to get rid of these demons that are taking advantage of me?

Graveyardhag · Unread post by **Graveyardhag** » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:58 pm

Pyromancer I don't think you need a spell, you need to set some boundaries.

Stop doing free readings. When they realise they can't take advantage anymore they will either pay you for your time, or disappear on their own.

Unread post by **Dr Darensbourg** » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:52 pm

Pyromanceer,

I am exactly with Graveyardhag. This does not seem to be a magical problem.

I believe you are selling yourself short and your querents/potential clients detect this. My method, I set my reading prices at one rate and my rootwork consultation at another, usually higher than my regular reading rates that way, even if they decide not to get a reading, I will not have wasted my time nor come away empty handed.

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Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:40 pm

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Pyromancer · Unread post by **Pyromancer** » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:19 am

I want that book badly. Sadly I didn’t win it on the giveaway contest. I will order it next purchase. Thanks so much. I am standing up for myself now and not going to let anybody use me.

Grgiegrl · Unread post by **Grgiegrl** » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:07 pm

Hi. How many spells can you have going on at once?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:17 pm

Grgiegrl,

Welcome to the Forum.

Your question has been merged into the proper thread, which, as you can see, is 9 pages long, at 60 posts per page! I suggest you start reading on page 1 and keep going, and you will see a lot of answers to this question, from several points of view. If you read all the way forward from there to here and you still have questions, just ask, and i will reply.

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MrsSchaeffer · Unread post by **MrsSchaeffer** » Tue May 07, 2019 11:40 pm

My next reading isn't for a week, but I don't think that it'll help me with the burnout/fatigue I am feeling.

In my last reading, I was told that my FH is coming back and all that I have wanted is coming to me. I have some thing to do on my own, but all is good on the love front. However I read on here that some people do constant work, so I have been. I think I am fatigued. Today I woke up and the day was just.. off. I am normally not emotional and I swore I was about to have a breakdown. But I am scared to do nothing. I am working a doll baby, working with st Martha Dominadora, I just deployed the remains of a moving spell, on the third candle of a Come To Me vigil run and have a reconciliation sugar jar, too. I am working a vinegar jar for (non-existent) rivals/troublemakers, too.

Maybe it is as ScorpioKate said and I need to protect myself more? My reading stated that the curse put me me is off and that I had PTSD from it. I'm planning on a 13 herb bath tomorrow. Any other Suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed May 08, 2019 7:28 am

MrsSchaeffer2020,

Many workers, do work till they see results, such as lighting candles on the work, tossing powders, shaking jars, making prayers, wearing a mojo. A "bad day" or a "emotional day" may come every now and then, I would take the day off, rest, take a spiritual bath, relax and reflect on the work. then start the next day. Protection works is always needed, you never know who wants to hurt you, take from you, destroy what you have. I consider protection work as common and basic in my life as brushing my teeth, its a daily and necessary. Pray Psalms 91 for Protection, pray Psalms 23 and 32 for blessings from God and heaven in your life and to strengthen you.

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Wed May 08, 2019 9:29 pm

Hello MrsSchaeffer2020,

It's also possible that you are over-loading yourself right now and not giving your work some time to actually work. Keep your honey jar going, as that is simple and requires little effort to be maintained. But I would let everything else have some breathing room to take hold and manifest.

Working yourself to the point of exhaustion can be overkill, which can also come across as a lack of faith in your work. Choose quality over quantity and sit back to watch for signs and movement. You can always supplement your work later.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

MrsSchaeffer · Unread post by **MrsSchaeffer** » Wed May 08, 2019 11:56 pm

Thank you to both of you. I needed to read what both of you wrote. I will take your advice. <3<3

MrsSchaeffer · Unread post by **MrsSchaeffer** » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:24 pm

I didn't know where else to put this so I apologize if it's the wrong place.

How has everyone gotten though waiting for what your readings said is going to happen?

My readings have all said good things and that my love is coming back soon. I am doing the advised work, but of course in the real world it seems like nothing is happening.

How do you guys keep going at this point? Since I last posted in this thread, my life has done a 180 change (literally the day after). I know how life can change on a dime. But I am struggling with keeping my head up while I wait. I am not doing any more work than I was advised to by my worker and taking the advice given here.

I hope this makes sense.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:45 pm

This is a difficult situation, but not an entirely uncommon one.

First, it is unclear from the wording "My readings have all said good things and that my love is coming back soon." whether these are SELF-readings or readings from a professional reader.

If they are self-readings, please go to a neutral professional.

If they are professional readings, please be advised that not all readers will agree on a future prospect -- just as all weathermen won't agree on the severity or andfall of a hurricane!

If you have been working with one reader who says that your love is coming back, but it is not happening, and three months have gone by, i would recommend that you get a second opinion from another reader, one not familiar with the case, and who is not also doing rootwork for you.

Go to a reader quite different from the first one. Get a short reading only -- 10 minutes or half an hour. Some foks call this a check reading. You can even get one free on the Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour radio Show.

Something is obviously not working for you, but we cannot tell what it is. Above all, ask for a time limit. I emphasize this because it is important to know when the answer is no. Remember, just as not every surgery saves every patient's life, not all rootwork succeeds in every case.

Wishing you all the best.

MrsSchaeffer · Unread post by **MrsSchaeffer** » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:15 pm

I'm sorry Miss Cat, I should really not post late when I am tired because I forgot some important things.

I'll answer in the order of your questions.

My readings are from a professional AIRR reader. I also did have a three person reading concerning this on the Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour Radio Show on which 2 of the readings said marriage was in our future (the third more focused on the issues with his mother but with us still together).

It hasn't been 3 months for the whole situation; it's been 3 months since my life changed from the last time I posted on this thread. I didn't even know him when I posted back in May.

I have been trying to get a reading with you to do what you suggested (the "check reading"), but that is very hard to do (you're in very high demand!) Since I did get a reading on this on the Radio Show before, I didn't want to do so again this soon.

The present situation has only been going on for a few weeks. It is not yet at or past the time stated that he would come back. I'll try to get in queue for the show tomorrow.

Thank you as always for your thorough and sage advice.

Unread post by **ComeOnInMyKitchen** » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:53 am

I just want to thank everyone for this topic. It has been a very real blessing this week.

I did some difficult work this week and in spite of what seemed like thorough planning, preemptive washing and cleaning, more than usual protection, and bathing after, the emotions/situation that led up to this work and what it brought out were potent, to say the least. The aftermath left me so far beyond drained and adrift mentally, like nothing I ever expected. I felt like I took a beating and then some. But having y'all's thoughts to read through to reaffirm were such comfort. It was a little like having an understanding friend to run through a sympathetic checklist of actions and reassure I’ve done what I should as far as washing up and didn’t miss something or otherwise tangle my own self up. If anyone else has a favorite LM wash, oil, or perhaps vigil beyond those already mentioned here that really helps recharge in the wake of extraordinarily difficult work, your guidance would be fantastic.

Thank you again to everyone who’s contributed their thoughts here. I am so appreciative of you.

Unread post by **Terra Rising** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:08 pm

ComeOnInMyKitchen,

I usually take a bath with a few drops of Van Van oil to remove the gunk build up that can lead to fatigue. Van Van bath crystals would add the soothing effect that only bath salts can do. If this doesn't work I go to herbal baths for mastery and power to help rebuild my strength. Master of the Woods, Angelica chips, and Queen Elizabeth root powder. Queen Elizabeth is commonly used for love work but it can also be used for female empowerment. I brew them into a strong tea, pour into a hot bath and soak.

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Unread post by **ComeOnInMyKitchen** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:44 pm

Terra Rising,

I heart this. Thank you so much for your suggestions. Van Van is my go to and using the bath crystals does sound perfect. Your suggestion has just put Van Van bath crystals on my next LM order. Also, hadn't thought about Angelica Root for that application but that would be extremely appropriate, as would Master of the Woods. Your recommendation of combining them with Queen Elizabeth is great. An order from LM was recently delivered with peony root bath crystals I'm looking forward to putting to use and I have some clarity product coming as well I'd ordered for a different purpose, but I think may help in this case. This work involves a child who's been badly hurt so to say it's difficult would be an understatement. (Yes, with regard to the child the legal avenues are all covered.) I'm sure some of the folks here have similar experiences albeit hopefully not under the same circumstances, I just don't have experience with anything so difficult or quite frankly the more "formal" training in rootwork I should have sought out by my age, so I was really caught off guard.

After taking a couple of days to give myself some space to breath, start a series of baths (13 herb), and step back from my work, I decided to clear myself and my home with everything I had on hand then Sunday washed and blessed everything and put down new layers of protection. The difference is palpable, both mentally and physically. I can't sing the praises of LM's quality enough, especially the FWP products. Lol, I actually signed in to post on the testimonials thread about a different item and am headed there next. But again, thank you for your advice. I'm currently making a list for my next order and will definitely take your suggestions to heart.

Ianoydb · Unread post by **Ianoydb** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:38 am

Hello!!!

I am new to the forums and am learning how to use them. I hope I am in the right place for this question.

Can I perform more than one spell at a time?

I am currently performing a candle spell on a lover, and also wish to perform a spell to work on improving myself.

I’m thinking that performing 2 spells at once breaks the focus and concentration needed for each. So for instance, I cannot give my full self and intent to a love spell if I’m giving myself and intent to a personal growth spell.

Maybe I’m wrong in this thinking (hopefully)? Any guidance would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Unread post by **Terra Rising** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:25 am

Ianoydb,

Yes you can! Many find that you can split things up so that you are working on different days of the week. You can also work by the cycles of the moon, drawing something in on a waxing moon and removing something when it is waning. It feels so natural, like breathing in and breathing out. Times of the day is good too. Dawn to noon to draw in, dusk through evening to remove. I would just allow enough time in between working the different spells so you can recharge.

Miss Cat talks about "Spell Overload" on this page: https://www.luckymojo.com/spells/real.html

Suriyothai · Unread post by **Suriyothai** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:55 pm

Can there be too many spells on a target? Like a break-up jar, a honey jar, an ammonia jar. reconciliation spell was done by someone else. break up vigil candles, reconciliation vigil candles by the church. and a return to me vigil candles.

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:40 am

Hello Suriyothai,

Have you read through the posts in this thread? You will find your question asked and answered many times.

The short answer is yes, you can certainly overwhelm your target with too much spell energy. If you read the posts here, you will get more detailed information that can help you.

Good luck.

luckyinlove · Unread post by **luckyinlove** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:00 am

Someone is doing 2 spells for me (break up jar and love spell). Can I also do my own spells against the other woman?

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:03 am

Hello luckyinlove,

You can do your own spells to support the work done by your rootworker, but seek their guidance first. You don't want to contradict the work they're doing for you.

You also don't want to risk overwhelming your target with too much spiritual energy. I have moved this portion of your post to the correct topic on whether one can do too many spells at once. Please read through the posts here for more information on that query.

Good luck.

Angel Eyes · Unread post by **Angel Eyes** » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:54 am

This question might sound quite dumb, but I'm just curious.

I've read many times in this forum that many people keep many spells focused on one person, for example, a vinegar jar to sour the target's life and some Hot Foot, for keeping that target away, even a mirror spell at the same time. It's normal because the nature of those spells is "similar" regarding the spells' nature (let's call it "negative" nature).

What about two different nature spells for one target? I mean, a spell for good and other spell for "bad"?

And that's where I arrive to the point of my question.

Imagine you have to deal with nasty and horrible people, but you have no choice to ignore that person, because they are relatives or coworkers and they situation makes impossible to leave and we are forced to deal with them.

Can we perform a freezer spell to control/freeze her/his wrong doing to us, and at the same time a honey jar to sweeten her/his towards us?.
I know It seems silly to mix a freezer spell with a honey jar, but, in case we want to keep a bad attitude away but at he same time we want to have a quite convivence with that target, could It be this possible?.

Is there another better alternative or spells combination to control a target but ay the same time, have a quite time without fighting?.

Thanks a lot.

Unread post by **Miss Athena** » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:29 pm

Hello Alice Kyteler / Angel Eyes,

That kind of crossed-purposes work seems counter intuitive to me. You can't essentially freeze someone in place at the same time as you do work to move them in a different direction. You either give them feet of clay or you give them movement. You can't really do both.

I would also be concerned that you are spreading your own energy too thinly to be effective in any one area.

I would choose one course of action and stick with it.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Lav1 · Unread post by **Lav1** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:58 pm

1) Is it true that if you perform too many spells, you will block the work from happening on a specific target?

2) How many love spells or reconciliation spells is too much?

Unread post by **Msmoody** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:32 pm

I think it could lead to confusion if we do too many spells on the target, as in focus on one thing at a time so your energy doesnt go wasted. It takes time and energy, effort and money to do a spell
an an example for a reconciliation you can do honey jar with candles and do healing candles
as long as the spell is of the same intent.

Lav1 · Unread post by **Lav1** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:54 pm

Thank you.

I am trying to restore a broken marriage, currently separated and with no communication, however, when the spouse was last seen he was still very upset and heart hardened.

So, would

* a vinegar jar to reverse no communication, and
* a jar to dominate ,and
* one love and attraction candle,

be the same intention, correct?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:04 am

Lav1 ,

No, they would not be of the same intention. .

1) Vinegar jars do not "reverse no communication." They make things sour and ugly. You might be thinking of an Ammonia jar to revese a situation. Vinegar and Ammonia are different.

2) Domination is not the same intention as "reversing no communication." It means ruling and controlling someone. The fact that you refer to your former mate as a "target" also shows a martial mind-set, not a marital one.

3) Love and Attraction is not the same intention as domination.

Sit a while and focus on what your true heart's intention is.

To restore communication with love and kindness?
To soften a hard heart and find mutual trust again?
To be seen as attractive and to encourage loving?

I think that those are more in alignment, than "reversing no communication," dominating a "target", and at the same time trying to come across as loving and attractive. Don't you agree?

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