Astrology: Character Analysis and Spell Timing: Horoscopes, Sun, Moon, Planets, Eclipses, Retrogrades

Crescent Moon · Unread post by **Crescent Moon** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:02 pm

Will my honey jars get the Fullest, Greatest, most Powerful effect during a total Eclipse? I light my candles for my honey jars on tomorrow, I hear there will be a Eclipse too...

What are the best spells to do during this time?

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:37 pm

Interesting info...just posting here so I can save the thread in my posts for future reference.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:12 pm

I was just reading these today as I learned about the solar eclipse. Good information if you work according to moon phases...or not!

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:27 pm

Thank you for this post Stars

Be Blessed.
---Triplethreat

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:46 am

Crescent Moon,

I was taught NEVER to cast a spell for progress, travel, or increase during a solar eclipse. It is literally a time of darkness. THINK ABOUT IT. The only power there is the power of the Sun being blotted out by the moon -- day eclipsed by night. I could tell you some hair-raising stories about accidents and deaths during solar eclipses.

I think only a person very out of touch with nature would try to use the energy of a solar eclipse for a love spell, for instance.

Total folly, as far as i'm concerned.

Starting a honey jar during an eclipse is ridiculous. Whoever suggested that is a fool. Haven't you all ever read anything about how eclipses were viewed with horror by people who lived in nature -- not in stupid cities where bright lights "solve" all the problems that darkness may bring?

Sometimes i think people dumb enough to go against 3,000 years of astrological information and belief deserve to watch their efforts fail. Darwinian spell-casting. Evolution in action.

Look, casting a sweet honey jar love spell while THE SUN IS BEING BLOTTED OUT is like crossing a street during a red light. Sure, you know that your mother, and your father, and your grandparents, and your teachers, and even your better-trained friends told you not to do it, but -- whoa! THE POWER OF CROSSING AGAINST THE LIGHT! YEAH! I'M GONNA MAKE A RUN FOR IT! .

Stupid.

Unread post by **nagasiva** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:52 am

LOL, cat.

RJLupin · Unread post by **RJLupin** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:20 am

path2success"

The only magic I would EVER do during an eclipse would be some kind of extreme banishing. The waning moon is the time for removing/dispelling unwanted energies; the dark of the moon (and I would definitely include an eclipse here) is not a good time to be trying for anything positive. Since you're trying to basically improve someone's feelings towards you (definitely a growth spell) I would only star it during the waxing moon. It's how I learned it, and how most people teach it.

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:33 am

catherineyronwode

I can totally understand the need to pull back from any drawing/attracting/positive work during a solar eclipse, but am I correct in thinking it would be a very potent time for banishing/cursing/reversing work? Especially given the New Moon tonight?

And also, what do you advise in regards to a lunar eclipse? Should no work be done? Should it be treated as a New Moon?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:04 am

Maljen,

I'm gonna say it one more time, and if you don't believe me, just try it yourself, okay?

"POTENT" is the WRONG word to use here. You are all on about "power" and "potency." Why? Where is the "power" in WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE SKY? (Not in your mind -- in NATURE.) Look, we harness our energies to nature, we cast dark spells by night and bright spells by day, we work with the tides, we work with the waxing and waning of the Moon.

So here's an eclipse. The Sun (or the Moon, either) is being blotted out. It's influence is temporarily STOPPED. Where is the "potent" power? GONE!

MY GOD, THE SUN IS GONE!!!!!

The message Nature is sending is about STOPPING (for a moment) the natural order of events.

Then -- THANK GOD! -- time moves on and the eclipse rolls past, and everything "comes back" to normal. Rituals and ceremonies of people who live in Nature (obviously you do not!) are all about helping the Sun or Moon come back. They are about not starting anything new -- never travel, never start a new job, never get married, never cast a spell you want to have go on -- while the brief "time out" of the eclipse is in the sky.

You all really don't get this, do you? You're like a pack of kids playing school with chalk on a blackboard. You think that if you say, "Hey, i'll play the teacher!" then the other kids will say, "Cool! and i'll play the student!" But it's not like that. 8,000 years of human civilization and sorcery say that you are wrong.

Go ahead, make your own little play-world. Tell folks that "hoodoo is subjective" or some other bull shit. Play the sorcerer, play the conjurer, play the little pipsqueak mage. But Nature is still Nature and if you want to get right with the ebb and flow of Nature's grand movements, don't try to tell me that eclipses are a "potent" time to cast spells. They are NOT. They are a time to look beyond your own little petty concerns, to look at the big picture, and to wonder -- what would happen if the Sun should disappear?

Look! The Sun is being swallowed by a Dragon!

"Oh goody! I'm gonna cast a love spell! Then Skippy will really love me!"

NO! I said the Sun, giver of Life, is being swallowed by a Dragon!

"Oh, right! I get it! I'll cast a hate spell on Skippy's new girlfriend!"

NO! I SAID THE SUN OUR FATHER-MOTHER, GIVER OF LIFE ON EARTH, IS BEING SWALLOWED BY A DRAGON!

"Uh ... you mean i can't cast a potent hoodoo spell of powerful sorcerous voodoo magic santeria right now?"

That's right, kiddo. You can't. 'Cause THE SUN, giver of life, light of our world, all-father-all-mother, blessed source of you and me and Skippy and his new girlfriend and everyone else in the mall where you hang out instead of hanging out in Nature like you should because your idiot forebears decided to all have five or more children instead of a couple of children and now there's no Nature left, just a great spewing oil well that's blotting out the Gulf of Mexico (but don't worry, the shrimp are still safe to eat and so are the sea turtles, no doubt) IS BEING BLOTTED OUT.

"But I want to cast a powerful hoodoo voodoo palo santeria spell that will bring pain to someone! Can't i do that now? Wouldn't this be a great time for that, what with it being so powerful and potent and DARK and all?"

Sure, but it will be UNDONE in less than an hour. Everything done in an eclipse gets UNDONE. The light comes back, you know. The Sun does triumph over the Dragon.

Follow the bouncing ball:

The Sun gets swallowed by a Dragon -- it is a time of terror and darkness. That's why we never travel, get married, start a new job, or cast a love or money spell during an eclipse.

The Sun returns to life and all is restored. That's why we never cast a break-up or death spell during an eclipse.

We never START ANYTHING during an eclipse. Not for good, not for bad.

Instead, we devote ourselves to observation, prayer, and awe.

Do you get it now?

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:48 am

I certainly get it now

Nothing going on during any eclipse, aye aye! And at least for my part, I apologize. I do come from an eclectic neopagan background, and there is more than a good amount of misinformation out there, even for those of us who tried to weed through the worst of it when we were first learning. The correspondence pages in my notebook I've started now has in big letters "NO WORK DURING AN ECLIPSE!" at the top of the first page.

I'll stick to mundane stuff like putting away laundry and cleaning out the fridge for the day!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:33 am

There is a solar eclipse today from 17.09 GMT to 21.57 GMT, although it will only be visible in the southern tips of Argentina and Chile and some islands in the South Pacific.

I'd suggest just lighting some devotional candles today and as Miss Cat said, postponing spellwork for another day.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:58 am

Here's my list with some additions:

Sunday (Sun) - Success, fame, growth, warmth, healing, wealth, men, yellow, gold
Monday (Moon) - Dreams, visions, psychic power, divination, home, family, women, black, white, silver
Tuesday (Mars) - Courage, power, energy, war, victory over enemies, red, iron, steel
Wednesday (Mercury) - Communication, writing, messages, trickery, gambling, removing obstacles, orange, lavender, multi-color
Thursday (Jupiter) - Wealth, power, business, status, success, luck, knowledge, expansion, purple, blue
Friday (Venus) - Love, sex, beauty, luxury, money, green, pink, copper
Saturday (Saturn) - Work, limitations, obstacles, death, black, grey

Phoenix333 · Unread post by **Phoenix333** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:53 pm

I wholeheartedly agree with the caveats about eclipses listed above. I was always taught the influence of eclipses and their cycle lasted for many weeks; is this the case in hoodoo, or would a spell cast a few days ago, or a few days from now, be ok?

Unread post by **Tabbylove17** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:10 pm

My mentor never does spells on eclipses whether it's lunar or solar. He feels that eclipses blocks some of the energy when people do spells and such.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:03 am

Phoenix333,

When asked how far in time (forward and backward) an eclipse's effects extended i said "not very far." Not weeks, not even days. Several hours each way -- make it a 12 hour frame of reference on either side of the eclipse if you want to be specifically astrological or "the day of the eclipse" if you want to play it by folk-magic almanac rules.

Some of you people worry too much, overthink your spells too much, and just wind yourselves up into little knots over the minutest suggestion of negativity from a random internet know-it-all. Check your wild fearful emotions. Focus. Study. Learn. If you have the interest, take my course and learn to practice hoodoo from the inside, not just from gossip on the net.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:09 am

To Madame_Phoenix :

No, I have never heard that the effect of an eclipse extends for weeks or even days. That idea makes no sense in terms of astrology. We limit the orb of influence of planets to be tighter than that.

The Moon spends only 2 1/2 days in each sign. Since all eclipses occur as a result of relationships between the Earth, Moon, and Sun, the Moon's rapid movement through the signs means that eclipses are in and out pretty quickly.

Study some astrology and you'll see what I mean.

Elveta · Unread post by **Elveta** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:42 am

Cat: I have a Fire of Love vigil candle going that I lit yesterday. Should I put it out and relight it after eclipse is over?

LilCassandra · Unread post by **LilCassandra** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:33 am

I'm in the same boat. I lit a Chuparrossa candle two days ago and it's only 1/3 done. Not sure if I should douse it and restart it? :-/.

coastwitch · Unread post by **coastwitch** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:49 pm

If you started a candle before the Eclipse, you can let it burn through the Eclipse. If you started it during the Eclipse, you may have to do it over because it may be ineffective.

danger · Unread post by **danger** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:18 pm

Hello! I was told for years that when I perform a spell, make sure that I do it on the odd hours of the day/night and make sure the clock hand is going up. But, they never told me which hand to look at. If anyone know which hand is the right hand I'm supposed go by, please let me know. Thank you!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:55 pm

From what I know of that kind of timing, it's when BOTH hands are rising or BOTH are falling.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:51 pm

That's how I was taught. When both hands are rising you do drawing work and when both hands are falling you do repelling work.

Theclassymami · Unread post by **Theclassymami** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:17 pm

I was wondering there were any special to do work on to get better results in your work. Like example i was told that "tuesday" is a good day of the week to do love work....

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:28 pm

There are no set particular days that will yield you better results. There are however days when certain work can be done according to planetary influence if you choose to work by that. There is actually no steadfast rule in hoodoo about doing spell work according to days of the week, times or moon phases - you can basically do the work when you need to and still get good results.

Also, Friday is actually a better day for love work. Tuesday is more in line with cursing, conflict, etc.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:20 pm

thelightfantastic is on the money... but again you can work any spell anytime, as some workers do prefer specific days, times, months etc for certain work.

IBube · Unread post by **IBube** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:06 pm

Dear Friends,

I am planning to do some reversal work this weekend. I am wondering if these rituals must be completed on the same day that they are started? I ask because I got a green/black double action reversal candle and I intend to start this ritual on Thursday, a day that is good for money. But what if I can't let the candle burn all the way down on that day because I have to go to work and also I don't leave candles burning while I am sleeping? Must this ritual be started and finished on the same day? Please help. Thank you

IBube

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:24 pm

You can work any spell over a three, seven or nine day period. It does not have to completed in one day unless the spell specifically states it must be completed in one day.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:26 pm

It doesnt even have to be three seven or nine, but those are pretty traditional for a lot of spells.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:26 pm

That's right. There are plenty of spells worked for five days, or for 8 days, or for 13 days, or once a month at a specified phase of the Moon for one full lunar year.

There are many methods for timing spell-casting. We discuss them at the Lucky Mojo Forum, and the mods are always willing to share their own tips and techniques.

Good luck.

ShadowyEmbrace · Unread post by **ShadowyEmbrace** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:39 pm

Well I had today off and had planned on working a special candle for her but b/c of my schedual I hadn't slept alot lately I laid down to take a nap before starting work so I'd feel refreshed but then a friend called me and woke me up she (and no this is another girl that's just a good friend) was upset about something so I couldn't just be like "yo I'm taking a nap call me back later" I had to talk to to her tohelp her sort out her problems. The problem was I had set my alarm for like an hour after I laid down and in talking to her it went off and I turned it off on my phone. I laid back down but forgot to reset my alarm and slept till like 11 pm! I started and got my honey jar working before midnight but is all lost now that its technicially saturday?

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:55 pm

I think because you STARTED it'll be fine. Lemme check my astrology calendar real quick.
Yeah, depending on your time zone (I'm PST) you should be good astrologically till tomorrow afternoon/evening. And even if you missed a what you think was a narrow window of opportunity, it doesn't really matter, all isn't "lost" because you didn't set your clock by the stars.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:12 pm

Shadowy Embrace, I'm a novice; but you still made it in by --working, lighting, starting and praying on a Friday--even if for just 20 minutes going into the Saturday AM. Whatever you were working on must not have involved sunrise or sunset, but days of the week like Mon, Wed, and Fri. Just because it is burning for a 2-4 hour candle should not make a difference going into the wee hours of Saturday morning-IF IT INVOLVES DAYS OF THE WEEK. (you did burn "start" on Friday) I know you like attention to detail, as do I. Now, as your candle is lit and I mean this sincerely, not sarcastically or jokingly-- don't burn the house down!
I work my honey Jars during the day with "hands of the clock". I do any banishing work at sundown.I have left protection candles burning WITH EXTREME CAUTION TAKEN UNTIL THEY GO OUT.
Stay confident in you and your work. It is Ok. Just becareful if you are burning while asleep if you are... I have gone to bed with candles burning I took drastic measures to insure safety!
going to check out and nap out soon myself... early day tomorrow!

ShadowyEmbrace · Unread post by **ShadowyEmbrace** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:14 pm

Oh okay cool thanks Eilis, I've been wondering about that because of my schedual I have to do most my work at night and I've been wondering like with my honey jar I usually do it long before midnight but I know in some traditions a "day" is the time from sun up to sun up so when I'm doing work at night and it crosses over to midnight is that really the next day or not? I know this is a simple newbie question but I've been wondering in Hoodoo how the days are counted.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:17 pm

I was taught that the day consists of sunrise til sunrise considering the first hour of the day is after the day of the week it is anyways. So based on that technically even if its after midnight, it is still okay to do something for that day. So lets say the previous day was Friday, but it turns midnight it is still Friday until the sunrises the next day, which would be saturday. I know techincally at midnight it would be Saturday, but I was taught from sunrise to sunrise based on the planetary hours.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:22 pm

Stars is one of the "Wise Ones" I adore, and with that... you are in good hands 4 sure!

Good night Stars, Ellis19 and ShadowyEmbrace

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:37 pm

*shrug* I'll go by astrology, time of day, day of week, or sometimes when I feel the extreme need to. I don't believe timing ever hinders, but it can help, you know? I know that in pst time the planets that made Friday (well, its still today for me for half an hour) epic for love don't move out of their positions till about 4pm tomorrow. I've done uncrossing baths in the middle of the day because I just felt like it absolutely had to be done NOW. Every so often I'll get my guides telling me to do a spell or work on a spell at the most seemingly random point in time. A lot of people work exclusively after dark. Currently I'm doing money and healing work first thing in the morning, even before breakfast, and dominating love work at twilight as I was taught that at twilight people are easier to manipulate.

spiritree41 · Unread post by **spiritree41** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:51 pm

Hey Shadowy Embrace, you can do the spell until tomorrow afternoon. Don't you worry. If you feel lost, ask Orpheus to help you. Love and Light.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:07 am

Ellis19, I had a humbling thought this morning (daylight now)... I just noticed when I gave Kudos, that it might have come across as if I were impuning your work, not the case I assure you. I was glad Stars dropped in--that's it. I also should make it a point to stay off the board after 1:00AM because I babble when I am tired.

I tried to stress two things to SE last night (early this am) 1. don't over think it and 2. careful with the fire because I knew those candles were going to be burning for a bit, in case she was going back to sleep.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:27 am

And to add you probably missed a day as you would call it, because you are spiritually drained. This lack of focus is the exact reason (along with others) why you need to take a break.

Miss_Liz · Unread post by **Miss_Liz** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:10 pm

I agree, Stars is a 'wise one.' I know what I'm doing in regards to the New Age-y Neo Pagan systems, but I'm still new to hoodoo so I'm more useful off the boards than on them

. I do prefer the hoodoo system though, which is why I'm here and not throwing glitter...anymore lol.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:10 pm

I find you to be very useful ON THE BOARDS. So stick around and speak up and always say Hi!

I am new and will remain new for years if not a decade... I love these individuals who, "

"I've been doing this for 8 years and I know it all about everything from THIS to THAT and and I just found LM but I disagree because BLABLA...BLA and because I also might know a little about this yada yada yada...

I like the posts that incorporate some life given true advice to people and incorporate the LM products to assist them. I tell everyone I am new..
Im new-- till 2020 OR MORE!!!

IBube · Unread post by **IBube** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:31 am

Thanks for all your help!!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:52 am

Hoodoo practitioners work in accord with natural signs and that includes astrological / astronomical phenomena.

The Moon signs, the Moon's appearance of of waxing and waning, and so forth are strong in hoodoo, and zodiacal and sun-sign candles and oils have been available through conjure shops since the 1920s, and astrological charts have been cast by hoodoo practitioners since the 19th or early 20th century, as can be documented through seeing their advertisements.

However, specific turns of phrase such as "an herb of Jupiter" that describe the ascription of herbs to planets are not often found in old-school hoodoo. These ideas come from the Western Esoteric Tradition.

Many African American conjure doctors, including Edward Lowe in Chicago in the 1920s practiced "working with the power of the stars" -- but "working with the power of the stars" is not the same as maintaining long lists of herbal ascriptions to planets. For instance, we often select special days to start a working based on the planetary ruler of that day -- but so did the ancient Africans. That is not the same as adopting the entire regimen of ascriptions utilized in European grimoires.

Could an old-time Black conjure doctor have learned about and wisely employed the Western Esoteric Tradition? Of COURSE -- just the same as an old-time White astrologer could have learned about and wisely employed the African American Conjure Tradition. This is called socio-cultural blending.

Socio-cultural blending of this type is as old as global transportation, which goes back to pre-history!

At this time, socio-cultural blending is proceeding to the point that astrological planetary ascriptions of herbs, according to systems of symbology that derive from old European grimoires, are becoming part of the general magical practices of African American culture.

Yes, the grimoires and planetary plant lists derived from primary European sources and secondary Euro-American writers (Agrippa, Gerard, Culpepper, Crowley, Grieve, Cunningham, etc.) are available in book stores to any hoodoo doctor who wants to purchase one.

Yes, many root doctors have read and applied the principles set forth in these grimoires. But that's an individual choice, always, and no one root doctor speaks for the whole lot of us.

And although not all workers in the hoodoo tradition -- family practitioners and professional spiritual doctors alike -- select herbs for use based on astrological ascriptions derived from European sources, we certainly can do so in addition to ways of working that we pass these along by oral tradition.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:02 pm

I have written a page on the use of planetary influences here:

http://luckymojo.com/planetary.html

Planetary timing is just one of several methods of timing for spell-work that are found in hoodoo.

Andrew2 · Unread post by **Andrew2** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:44 pm

I have read the books that you have mationed, and I found out that the hoodoo in America did adopt some western occult knowledge. {For example the "the sixth and seventh book of Moses" uses astrological sigils and the angel names are in correspondence with the planets, as does the "Seals of Solomon".)

I understand that when it comes to herbs, practitioners of hoodoo rely on 'word to mouth' knowledge. but I think hoodoo was always evolving since it came to America.

If there is condition oils (which are herb based) for sun and other astrological plants, why cant we also add some astrological information for the herbs themselves on top of the folk knowledge?

IBube · Unread post by **IBube** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:51 am

Hello friends,

Can someone talk about the difference between planetary oils, incense, satchet powders, etc and astrological products? For example, is there a difference between using a Leo oil and Sun oil, since Leo is ruled by the Sun? Or Cancer oil and Moon oil, since the moon rules Cancer? How are these products different and when would you use one instead of the other? Thanks so much!

I LOVE LEARNING ON HERE

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:43 pm

Zodiac products are used by some for astral candles. These candles are used to represent people. To read more about it you can read the Master Book of Candle Burning by Gamache and The Magic Candle by Charmaine Dey.

Planetary products are specifically about working with those planetary energies.

Here's an example: if you want to work a moving candle between a Gemini and a Leo then you can set up Astral candles for the Gemini and the Leo while working a moving candle spell. This can help "tune" the spellwork on to your targets.

If however you feel like you need to stimulate conversation between two people you can turn to Mercury oil.

Hope that clarifies.

Here are the books that can help

BOO-GRI-MCCD Book Spellcraft The Magic Candle by Charmaine Dey $9.10
BOO-GRI-MSCB Book Spellcraft Master Book of Candle Burning by Henri Gamache $9.95

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:26 pm

Also see these two Lucky Mojo web pages for astrological spiritual supplies:

Planetary Spiritual Supplies and Days of the Week:
http://luckymojo.com/planetary.html

Zodiacal Spiritual Supplies and Zodiac Signs :
http://luckymojo.com/zodiacal.html

sunflower73 · Unread post by **sunflower73** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:18 pm

ok I am a little dumb right now I am on est just wondering when should i do my come to me candle? please help someone.

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:24 pm

sunflower73 wrote:ok I am a little dumb right now I am on est just wondering when should i do my come to me candle? please help someone.

Time of day, day of the week and all that stuff is optional when doing any kind of spell work. Some people prefer to do work in accordance with astrology, etc., but it's not a steadfast rule or even a requirement. In hoodoo, you do the work when you need to do it.

sunflower73 · Unread post by **sunflower73** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:49 pm

thank you sweetheart for your response I been having the need to do all day and just havent.

thelightfantastic wrote: Time of day, day of the week and all that stuff is optional when doing any kind of spell work. Some people prefer to do work in accordance with astrology, etc., but it's not a steadfast rule or even a requirement. In hoodoo, you do the work when you need to do it.

IBube · Unread post by **IBube** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:32 am

Dear Friends,

I have been using the Master Book of Candle Burning for a year now, and it says that the primary astral color for Pisces is pink. I'd never heard of pink being one of the Pisces colors before this. I've been using pink, but I don't feel a very strong vibration from this color. Are there other astral colors for Pisces in the hoodoo tradition? Please help!

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:23 am

IBube --

Blues, aqua greens, and purples, as Pisces is a water sign. My husband is a Pisces and we often use light blue candles for him, which work quite well.

good luck,
Bri

DrXTheRebirth · Unread post by **DrXTheRebirth** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:37 pm

As a fellow Pisces I agree with Bri. Blues have a good vibe with our energies.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:15 pm

There are basically three systems of assigning colour symbolism to the signs of the zodiac:

1) The colours suggested by the elements (earth, air, fire, and water) associated with each sign. Examples: blues and greens for all three water signs, browns and tans for all three earth signs.

2) The colours suggested by the colours that have been chosen to symbolize the planets that rule each sign. Examples: Venus is green and Vnus rules both Taurus and Libra, hence both shoud be green.

3) The zodiac, taken as a whole, can be correlated to a chromatic colour wheel. Examples: Aries is red, Taurus is red-orange, Gemini is orange.

Using these systems in combination, the colours for Taurus are brown, green, and red-orange and for Pisces they are blue, purple, and magenta. Gamache's use of pink was a way of toning down magenta to a paler shade.

maduro01 · Unread post by **maduro01** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:45 am

I have a Bayberry Candle and a Steady Work Candle and would like to know when are the best days to begin burning the candle. Also, when looking for work, should I put a specific company, salary desired, job title on a petition?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:05 pm

For steady work I would just write the characteristics such as you want a salary starting at 10 bucks, and you want an administrative position. I mean you an be specific, but if you are looking for work still you do not want to make it TOO specific otherwise you might not find any jobs that fit the characteristics. So if you name a specific company...and there are no jobs at that company, then the outlook of your work might not manifest due to the lack of jobs at that company. Your spellwork may fail. So i would just name a few things you want in a job and leave it open enough to attract enough positions

Best days to work job work is...would be sunday, wednesday, Thursday and Friday (associated with drawing and money work)

maduro01 · Unread post by **maduro01** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:23 pm

Great! Thanks stars!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:56 pm

Refer to this thread in the future if you want to know what is best to perform on what days of the week

best-days-to-work-spells--t7433.html

Maljen · Unread post by **Maljen** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:10 am

Thank you as well, Mama Micki!