CHAT LOG:
2023-05-29 18:45 rev_art Hello everyone!
2023-05-29 18:45 reverendjames Hello!
2023-05-29 18:59 lmcradionetwork One minute til SHOWTIME!
2023-05-29 18:59 lmcradionetwork Welcome @reverendroy to the show this week!
2023-05-29 18:59 rev_art Welcome @balkandiviner14!
2023-05-29 19:00 reverendroy Hello!
2023-05-29 19:00 balkandiviner14 Hello all! I told you I'm catching up with you this time
2023-05-29 19:00 rev_art Hello @dr-sweets!
2023-05-29 19:01 dr-sweets hello
2023-05-29 19:01 rev_art Thrilled to have @reverendroy joining us again on Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places!
2023-05-29 19:02 lmcradionetwork Trying a new audio option tonight, let us know if you can hear @rev_art
2023-05-29 19:02 rev_art Ahh yes, the ongoing trials and tribulations of the audio, lol
2023-05-29 19:04 rev_art Welcome @catherine-yronwode!
2023-05-29 19:05 reverendjames
https://hoodooheritagefestival.com/
2023-05-29 19:06 balkandiviner14 I can hear you both quite well compared to other earlier editions
2023-05-29 19:07 reverendjames @balkandiviner14 That’s great! Thanks for the feedback, it’s useful!
2023-05-29 19:10 balkandiviner14 It's quite the year for LM and AIRR. So many new things!
2023-05-29 19:13 reverendjames
https://www.blogtalkradio.com/lmcradion ... verend-roy Reverend Roy's previous show.
2023-05-29 19:14 reverendjames "Here ya go governor!" haha!
2023-05-29 19:15 reverendjames governer = governor
2023-05-29 19:15 balkandiviner14 Yes I could have bet that it's not the first time Reverend Roy's sharing his knowledge here
2023-05-29 19:15 reverendjames An Artist Among the Spirits: The Extraordinary Life of Reverend Adele Clemens
2023-05-29 19:17 reverendjames Beautiful! A true interfaith church!
2023-05-29 19:18 balkandiviner14 Healing is one of the most fundamental aspects of building a successful magical practice
2023-05-29 19:19 balkandiviner14 and even much more a business
2023-05-29 19:21 rev_art that's very true @balkandiviner14 especially when dealing with sensitive topics and things of a spiritual nature!
2023-05-29 19:24 balkandiviner14 What's one spiritual aspect about yourself, such as sign of the zodiac, and do you feel it has helped in building successfully your own business?
2023-05-29 19:25 rev_art Welcome @lolitaladylola!
2023-05-29 19:25 catherine-yronwode It is interesting to me how many listeners to our shows are new professionals, would-be professionals, and folks changing career from conventional employment to self-employment in the psychic and healing arts.
2023-05-29 19:26 balkandiviner14 I would like to give out a shoutout to Miss Cat's eight of pentacles method. She provided that in a previous edition of Lucky Mojo Radio Show. You take baby steps and begin by having business cards, building a website, offering discounts, advertising and so forward.
2023-05-29 19:26 rev_art Yes! So many folks wanting to share their gifts but not knowing how, or where to start!
2023-05-29 19:27 catherine-yronwode Great question, Balkan Diviner -- there are certain signs of the zodiac who provide healing and artisanal environments.
2023-05-29 19:29 balkandiviner14 I also know people that no matter how successful or powerful they are as spiritual people would not create a business. It's obviously their choice, but there are many who are also uncomfortable with charging money for spiritual services. There's a sort of mentality that spirituality should be free, or that it's immoral to make a living from it. I disagree fundamentally as at the end of the day it's a skill earned and learned through sweat and blood
2023-05-29 19:29 catherine-yronwode I love that, Roy -- "Healing Amulet" is your key term. I chose "Lucky Mojo" because i love luck and making things. Telling your story in your name is vital.
2023-05-29 19:31 catherine-yronwode We have that here in America too, BalkanDiviner -- folks claiming that other folks are wrong to charge money for 18-hour workdays.
2023-05-29 19:32 catherine-yronwode Art, Roy, Papa Gee, James, Papa Newt, Miss Phoenix, nagasiva, and MANY of our colleagues are FIXED signs -- Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio.
2023-05-29 19:33 catherine-yronwode Oh, and ConjureMan is a Taurus too.
2023-05-29 19:33 jaydeehoodoo Hello everyone
2023-05-29 19:33 rev_art Hey @jaydeehoodoo!
2023-05-29 19:33 jaydeehoodoo Late arrival but I made it!
2023-05-29 19:33 catherine-yronwode Hi, JayDee.
2023-05-29 19:33 catherine-yronwode Tauruses like shop-keeping and curating.
2023-05-29 19:34 jaydeehoodoo Hi Miss Cat!
2023-05-29 19:34 catherine-yronwode Tauruses like symmetry. Yes, Tauruses can center things!
2023-05-29 19:34 catherine-yronwode Hi!
2023-05-29 19:35 catherine-yronwode Hey, dr-sweets! I just saw you in chat. What's your sign?
2023-05-29 19:35 jaydeehoodoo Curious some astrologers emphasis the rising sign, others the sun sign, what do you think is more prevalent
2023-05-29 19:36 dr-sweets I am Capricorn
2023-05-29 19:36 catherine-yronwode JayDee: Sun0sign by 100-to1. Reason: rising sign requires minute of birth and not all people know that.
2023-05-29 19:37 reverendjames or you burn out! Burn out is not the way you want to end your project.
2023-05-29 19:37 trollt For richer or poorer
2023-05-29 19:37 trollt In sickness and in health
2023-05-29 19:37 catherine-yronwode Ah, dr-sweets -- you and Deacon Millett and Prof. Porterfield. I consider Capricord (Cardinal Earth) to be an "honourary fixed sign." LOL.
2023-05-29 19:37 reverendjames for better for worse!
2023-05-29 19:38 catherine-yronwode Sun0sign = Sun-sign
2023-05-29 19:38 catherine-yronwode Imposter syndrome ... shaking my head. I have heard about it. What does it mean?
2023-05-29 19:38 jaydeehoodoo Makes sense thank you!
2023-05-29 19:38 trollt Imposter Syndrome can be induced by radical scrutiny and massive social gating.
2023-05-29 19:39 trollt I.e., agency is a function of individual power and authenticity.
2023-05-29 19:39 trollt Where cultural slant runs against the intersection of mercantilism and spirituality, it can undermine individual power and erode authentic presence.
2023-05-29 19:40 catherine-yronwode Capricord = Capricorn (but I kinda like the word "Capricord" -- it may need a definition. Capricord means "Goat Rope" There, i did it.
2023-05-29 19:40 balkandiviner14 I've actually spoke about this with Reverend Art. It doesn't help that psychic abilities are frowned upon in many professional areas.
2023-05-29 19:40 trollt There are other aspects of culture which also undermine these, like where politics hit on appropriation and sound foundations (having learned abroad or from cultural wanderers, emissaries, and pioneers)
2023-05-29 19:41 trollt "feel like a fraud or a phoney" - It hits directly on what provides personal power in professions.
2023-05-29 19:41 trollt Where this is spiritual, some cultures encourage this with initiation.
2023-05-29 19:42 jaydeehoodoo Funny you said this, I shared this concept with a client who does work and explained it as " a person can't be a prophet in their own city". I suggested to her that she do work for others outside of her friends and family because the results will build her faith in herself and ability.
2023-05-29 19:42 catherine-yronwode I see. So there is a feeling of unworthiness and self-doubt, possibly (in some cases) exacerbated by social pressures or condemnation of a certain belief system. I get that.
2023-05-29 19:43 catherine-yronwode JayDee -- that is a really great idea.
2023-05-29 19:44 reverendjames I think all of this dances around another good question - How do you know when your good enough to charge?
2023-05-29 19:44 rev_art I just read "goat rope" and almost snort-laughed, lol
2023-05-29 19:45 jaydeehoodoo I have a question, is the issue not worthy or able, or does it sometimes come down to client expectations that are out of reality?
2023-05-29 19:45 catherine-yronwode For me the only self-doubt was, "Suppose I build it and no customers or clients comes?" But, luckily, they did come.
2023-05-29 19:45 reverendjames ooo @jaydeehoodoo good point!
2023-05-29 19:45 catherine-yronwode comes = come
2023-05-29 19:46 reverendjames @catherine-yronwode I've heard you say this before!
2023-05-29 19:46 trollt "can't be a prophet in their own city" - Depends on how revolutionary their notions are and how easily they are being pigeon-holed by their peers. There is absolutely a greater resistance to it.
2023-05-29 19:47 jaydeehoodoo Yes, it was a quote from Luke 4:24: And he said, Verily I say unto you, no prophet is accepted in his own country.
2023-05-29 19:49 catherine-yronwode JayDee -- this opens a real issue for business people -- namely, are you willing to learn about customer service? Because customers and clients can be trained to have reasonable expectations, just the same way that the reader, healer, or shop keeper was trained in service, in skill, and in authenticity of work.
2023-05-29 19:49 jaydeehoodoo Sadly LM and Miss Cat have experienced a lot of stealing of photos, information, and products.
2023-05-29 19:49 balkandiviner14 I feel customer service is that much more important in magical services where there is no guarantee of success.
2023-05-29 19:50 trollt To an extent it depends upon a performance and the audience knowledge of the performer's private backdrop where it comes to their escalation to something supernormal.
2023-05-29 19:50 balkandiviner14 Performance contracts are great, but even with those at the end of the day there's no guarantee of success.
2023-05-29 19:50 jaydeehoodoo Great point Miss Cat, I often reference the webpage at Lucky Mojo on magic when clients ask these questions. It can’t be explained any better:
https://www.luckymojo.com/spells/real.html
2023-05-29 19:51 catherine-yronwode JayDee, so true -- but the same is true of dress designers, jewelers, song-writers, and many artisans.
2023-05-29 19:51 trollt I.e., for religious and spiritual icons it helps to not have any connection to the audience's general lives. Celebrity can drive radical division. Familiarity tends to lead to ecumenicalism: rising the tide and lifting all boats.
2023-05-29 19:51 jaydeehoodoo Very true Miss Cat
2023-05-29 19:52 rev_art welcome @theredqueenconjure!
2023-05-29 19:52 theredqueenconjure Heya
2023-05-29 19:52 theredqueenconjure Heya rev_art
2023-05-29 19:53 trollt One's style and manner, even one's appearance, may not play well in certain zones or to certain audiences, no matter how sound one's integrity.
2023-05-29 19:53 catherine-yronwode Art -- so true! And the requests vary between, "I'll pay any price for [X]" and "I need [X] for free -- so help meeeee!" In between are the clients and customers who become friends.
2023-05-29 19:53 theredqueenconjure
be you. do you always
2023-05-29 19:55 catherine-yronwode Hi, Red queen -- nice to see you here. Earlier we were asking what zodiac signs we find most often in psychic, spiritual, and magical businesses. So ... what's your sign?
2023-05-29 19:55 trollt Divergence of perceptions of authenticity are a tough engagement to navigate. How those are built in part depends on how interested an individual or group are in seeing things for what they are. Biases against one perceived can completely blind one to what one is actually seeing.
2023-05-29 19:55 balkandiviner14 Do you follow any superstitions in regard to your business building? For instance, my mother taught me that whatever project I'm building in life I should be private in the construction stage until I launch it, so keep quiet until it's ready to be shown to the public.
2023-05-29 19:55 theredqueenconjure Heya Miss Cat... I'm a Pisces
2023-05-29 19:55 reverendjames Astrological Case Study in the making!
2023-05-29 19:56 jaydeehoodoo Red Roy, very hard experience to balance that. I think many of us on this have experienced this
2023-05-29 19:56 theredqueenconjure I find Pisces Leos cancer and Scorpio to be most psychic
2023-05-29 19:57 balkandiviner14 It's interesting because I'm taking baby steps in building my own business and I am a Leo, another fire sign.
2023-05-29 19:57 balkandiviner14 *fixed sign
2023-05-29 19:57 theredqueenconjure @catherine-yronwode I'm a Pisces
2023-05-29 19:58 catherine-yronwode Ah, a Pisces! Natural readers, not too many of those are shop-keepers, but they are so gifted in the arts and in music.
2023-05-29 19:59 theredqueenconjure @catherine-yronwode I agree. Not many of us are shop owners cause we are living chaos lol which makes us psychic but disorganized lol
2023-05-29 20:00 theredqueenconjure Ok I have to drive now can't chat in chat room but I will be listening
wish I could chat though....
2023-05-29 20:00 trollt As a Scorpio, business is only a tangential aspect of the things that are important to me. People found it upsetting or alarming, I found, when spirituality was combined with business in the zones of my origins (New Age). I wondered about their prejudices and found it refreshing to meet with people who saw things differently. I found it interestingly transgressive to embrace that initially and never saw a problem with the intersection, personally.
2023-05-29 20:02 trollt I was never in the corporate world, so didn't make a transition; I’ve engaged every job I had as a spiritual enterprise and it turned into one.
2023-05-29 20:02 trollt Becoming self-employed has become liberating, thanks, Miss Cat!
2023-05-29 20:03 trollt I think "the imposter syndrome" is a misnomer for self-doubt that can become debilitating.
2023-05-29 20:03 trollt Costs versus benefits.
2023-05-29 20:04 catherine-yronwode Roy, I was not talking about "having pissed people off " -- but about NOT having imposter syndrome (ever) and trying to compare it with my one actual doubt when starting a NEW business -- that I would not get customers.
2023-05-29 20:04 trollt Contracted terms are important to negotiate. Many in the corporate world parasitize the individual worker.
2023-05-29 20:04 trollt Not returning to it is completely understandable.
2023-05-29 20:05 trollt How does mindfulness help with self-doubt?
2023-05-29 20:06 trollt Is judgement important in moral considerations? Aren't there boundaries you won't go past? Certain customers you would not wish to serve?
2023-05-29 20:07 trollt Do you travel for your spiritual work? How far? Where have you been? What types of locations?
2023-05-29 20:08 trollt Are there issues of personal boundaries in relation to trust which also come up in spiritual businesses? How do you set appropriate personal boundaries with those whom you serve?
2023-05-29 20:09 trollt When does the customer service become a charity and how? At what point do you want to pay attention to your own resources while tending to someone else's spiritual needs?
2023-05-29 20:10 trollt "No big deal" - Initially some customers can become a drain, throw themselves wholly into your care if you'll let them. When do you decide that you cannot help them any further? That they need more help than you can supply?
2023-05-29 20:10 catherine-yronwode Life experience also helps immeasurably in a psychic reading or healing career -- and compassion is the bridge when you have to shared experience.
2023-05-29 20:11 catherine-yronwode to = no
2023-05-29 20:11 balkandiviner14 Has your business been attacked spiritually by nefarious individuals through crossings or other dangerous magical workings? Do you believe it's crucial to protect meticulously spiritually your business?
2023-05-29 20:11 catherine-yronwode Great questions!
2023-05-29 20:13 trollt "that little voice" - Precisely; it's an element of consciousness which can be emboldened or ignored.
2023-05-29 20:20 reverendjames 10 minutes remaining in the show - 8 minutes till end music
2023-05-29 20:20 trollt Not dividing the universe into "the spirit" which is trans-materialism and "the mundane" which is somehow corrupting of the spiritual is a big plus for those seeking to make spiritual business moves.
2023-05-29 20:20 trollt Humility practice!
2023-05-29 20:22 trollt Getting clear on the real world without reflection on emotional desire, taking action without regard for any fears experienced.
2023-05-29 20:23 trollt The challenge in business is not to Mistake Your Way Out of Business
2023-05-29 20:23 trollt If you can get the data from the right places.
2023-05-29 20:24 trollt What are the best places to get your data?
2023-05-29 20:24 trollt What's the best way to evaluate what is working and what is not?
2023-05-29 20:24 reverendjames 5 minutes remaining in the show - 3 minutes till end music
2023-05-29 20:25 trollt Vendor sources!
2023-05-29 20:26 reverendjames and mentor!
2023-05-29 20:26 balkandiviner14 We all learn something new from Miss Cat each day honestly
2023-05-29 20:27 rev_art Yes!
2023-05-29 20:27 reverendjames 60 seconds till end music
2023-05-29 20:27 catherine-yronwode Thanks, Art -- kind of you to say that.
2023-05-29 20:27 trollt Reverend Art will have a workshop like this during next VHHF!
2023-05-29 20:28 trollt Business Magic@!
2023-05-29 20:28 reverendroy Thanks everyone!
2023-05-29 20:28 trollt
https://www.hoodooheritagefestival.com
2023-05-29 20:28 trollt Wonderful show!
2023-05-29 20:28 theredqueenconjure Bye good show
2023-05-29 20:28 balkandiviner14 Phenomenal show! Good night!
2023-05-29 20:30 trollt
http://www.mysticsmages.com/radioshow
2023-05-29 20:30 trollt
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2023-05-29 20:31 rev_art All good on the chat front?
2023-05-29 20:32 lmcradionetwork Chat log in the can!
2023-05-29 20:33 rev_art Have a great week everyone! Signing out from the Blue Ridge Mountains of Western North Carolina!
be you. do you always
wish I could chat though....
