Freezer and Ice Spells: Questions and Answers

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun May 14, 2023 7:04 pm

crystalangel,

Everything you have listed sounds good, except for the Run Devil Run Oil. This is because the objective of a freezer spell is to freeze someone in a block of ice so they are immobile -- not running. Run Devil Run is better used in foot track spells, to drive someone out of town, push away from a job or school, or eject them from a family or social group.

Good luck.

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Mon May 15, 2023 1:12 am

Thank you very much Miss Catherine!

I was reading "Miss Cat's Run devil Run Freezer Spell" in the book "Destroying Relationships " and I thought that probably I could include Run devil Run in my freezer spell.
But after your answer I see why not, at least in this Freezer Spell I want to make.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon May 15, 2023 12:59 pm

crystalangel,

That spell can be found on pg. 65 of Destroying Relationships, if you create the freezer jar with the same intent as that spell was created then yes you can use it, however, do the spell as written, this is an old try-and-true spell Miss Cat produced for the book. The spell can work for your situation knowing it is about gossip, slander, and evil in-laws. In the spell you proposed you left out several important pieces of the spell including the tongue.

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Mon May 15, 2023 2:14 pm

JayDee

It is an extraordinary spell indeed!!!
I know I left out several important pieces... that is because for now I have to work with what I have in hand,,,I have no Run devil Run powder either. I ordered the oil but not the powder.

I will include these products to my next LM Order soon and I will do the spell exactly as it is written!!! It is an excellent spell.

Thank you do much for your answer!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon May 15, 2023 4:53 pm

crystalangel,

I understand your situation, you can also do work as is while waiting for the materials then follow up by doing this spell

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Tue May 16, 2023 5:17 am

JayDee

Exactly!!!
Thanks God and LM Family I have plenty of supplies and plenty of choices to work till my next order arrives, due to your wonderful shop, books and advice!!!

Dimplez · Unread post by **Dimplez** » Fri May 19, 2023 5:43 am

Hello, I have a question. My boyfriend inherited a lot of money from his uncle, the uncle sister is keeping them in court trying her best to get more money. The uncle left her some money but not a lot because she kept the “Family” home after their mother passed. So she is upset that my boyfriend is getting a share (which is really his mothers share). Is a freezer spell go to get this woman to stop this court stuff keeping the money tied up while attorneys eat off the trust? Thanks for any responses!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Fri May 19, 2023 11:29 am

Dimplez,

A freezer spell will stop the person in place as it is.

You may be interested in Court Case to get success in this case or to do a Pay Me spell to get the person to pay up.

Forum topic on Inheritance or insurance money: spells-for-court-cases-for-inheritance- ... 29471.html

JayDee

Dimplez · Unread post by **Dimplez** » Fri May 19, 2023 5:03 pm

Thank you for this @JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:33 am

Hello my beloved LM Family

I wanna help a friend of mine by freezing out of her life a person that is very dangerous and is obessed with her.
My question is do I refer the name of my friend in the petition?
I don't want to freeze my friend out of my life...so do I write my friend's name or not?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:15 pm

crystalangel,

Your friend should write out the petition with the person's name asking to freeze that person out. Use strong language like you are frozen stuck out of my life forever etc.

DO NOT write the friends name.

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:31 am

JayDee

she wants me to do it for her because she doesn't feel well doing it...she has never cast a spell in her life...
Do I will just say and write "Mary you are frozen stuck out of my friend's life forever" ???

Unread post by **JayDee** » Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:22 pm

crystalangel ,

You certainly can try, or have her write the petition and you do the rest of the spell yourself.

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:01 am

Thanks a lot JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:29 am

Hello LM Family

As far as Cat's spell under the title "A Very inclusive Freezer Spell petition" in the book Destroying Relationships, I would like to ask:
We just use water and the petition? Or csn we use other supplies as well?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:12 am

crystalangel,

You certainly can use other supplies as well. Remember more is not always better, and think about what you add. It may be tempting to add oil, but oil and water don't mix, and oil does not freeze.

Think of herbs that would support the work, such as Poppy to cause the person confusion, Alum to silence their mouth, Barberry to bar someone from coming to you, or Banishing bath crystals (diluted to allow it to freeze).

Poppy: https://www.herbmagic.com/poppy-seed.html
Alum:https://www.herbmagic.com/alum-chunk.html
Barberry: https://www.herbmagic.com/barberry.html
Banishing: https://www.luckymojo.com/banishing.html

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:50 pm

Hello JayDee and thank you for your answer

Well, out of nowhere and with a very sudden and cruel way I ve learned that my husband is exchanging love messages with a woman married with two kids living in our neighborhood...I know her since she was a baby...
Her husband found the messages and you can imagine what follows...
Iam still in great shock!!! It was like a thunder stroke me...
I don't know if I can forgive him, but that's another story...
I wanna do that inclusive spell because I don't trust him...not for the time being at least

So I have One more question about that terrific spell: it says that all rivals stay out of my love life etc
I want to add also all love rivals to stay out of my husband's love interest and life. Is it ok to do that? I mean, to make it more personalized but without refering my husband's name, just the word "my husband".

Of course I will also freeze that specific woman out of my husband's life , as well.

Ps: barberry is used in that case to bar the road ?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:57 pm

crystalangel,

Yes and you can even write her name on it too, list it by the part where it makes the most sense. Just add her name.

Barberry is known to close roads or to block a person from coming to you, it's name bar- banning, or bar- bars keep people out.

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:20 pm

So I will just add the barberry bar into the freezer spell saying to bsr sll love rivals from my husband's life, sex snd love interest, or should I write something on the bar itself???

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:54 pm

crystalangel ,

No you pray over it calling on its spiritual power and asking it to support the work by blocking all these types of women from his life.

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:16 am

Excellent!!
Thank you so much JayDee

Blessings

Blue Spirit · Unread post by **Blue Spirit** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:22 pm

LM family
I would like to do a freezer spell to the wife of my ex boyfriend that still does magic to me and observes me because she sees me as a danger. I am doing uncrossing spells and protection spells to myself.

I would like her to forget about me, not to do magics on me, not to talk about me and not to bother me ever. I want to vanish from her hands mouth ears and brain... I have never met her in person.

I was thinking of using a freezer spell with the following inside:
Water and a jar for the freezer
Alum to shut her mouth and that she does not speak about me (not even saying my name at her spells)
Poppy seeds to confuse her brain and forget me
Her photo and birthday, plus petition (what oil do you suggest to use in 5 spot pattern?)

Should I use barberry to block her road coming to me?

What else should I put in the freezer spell?

Thanks a lot!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:15 pm

Blue Spirit ,

You can dab it with Confusion oil or Commanding oil while you tell her to stop.

You can add the Barberry but it is not needed if she does not physically come to you, which I assume the wife of your ex does not come to you.

Adding more does not always equate to better, sometimes the work as is, is exactly what is needed. Pray over it, speak with authority, and freeze her out.

Confusion: https://www.luckymojo.com/oil-confusion.html
Commanding: https://www.luckymojo.com/products-commanding.html

JayDee

Blue Spirit · Unread post by **Blue Spirit** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:39 pm

Thanks JayDee!

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:48 am

Hello my beloved LM family

Iam planning casting a Freezer Spell (except from the Cat's Very inclucive freezer spell) for the woman that was flerting and exchanging love messages with my husband.

I will add
Poppy seeds to confuse her mind
Alum to shut up her mouth and never talk to him again
Black mustard seeds to freeze any activity that concerns my husband
Barberry to block the roads and never meet him again
Banishing bath crystals to banish her from his life
Commanding oil in five spot pattern

I will cross out with an X her eyes saying not see him again
I will cross with XXX her mouth not to talk to him never again

The petition:
I freeze you (her name) out of my husbands life, to never talk to him, never see him, never meet him, never touch him, never send him messages, never again

What do you think?
And one more question
How can I freeze him out of her life, not to think of her etc, without freezing him out of my life?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:37 pm

crystalangel ,

The freezer spell sounds good.

I personally would not freeze the husband, I would go with a more traditional spell such as I Dominate My Man to control him, tie his nature, and a Nation Sack.

These spells will give you domination over him and prevent him from having sex with other women.

I Dominate My Man: https://www.luckymojo.com/idominatemyman.html

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:13 am

JayDee,
Thanks a lot for your answer and your help!
Except from my LM books,
In which thread can I find spells to tie his nature?
Blessings

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:34 am

crystalangel,

Subsections on this page, Nation Sack and Tying a Mans Nature cover the topic: https://www.luckymojo.com/idominatemyman.html

A Nation Sack which is made with a string tied of his nature:https://www.luckymojo.com/nationsack.html

Forum thread topic on tying nature: spells-to-dominate-control-rule-over-ti ... 81842.html

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:08 pm

Great!
Thanks JayDee

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:06 pm

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crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:50 am

Hello LM family

I have a debt in telecommunication company... I make deposits every month but not the amount of money that the company demands because I can't afford that amount.
There is the possibility that the company will demand the whole amount of money through court...how can I freeze that possibility?
I want to freeze the case so the company to not demand the money through the legal and court way
How can I do that
I have a letter from them that I received today telling me to pay the whole amount (of course I called them and explain that I can't afford the whole amount etc)
Can I include that paper to the freezer spell plus what else?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:38 am

crystalangel ,

You can write out the name of the company and that you want to freeze all actions from the company, then stick it in the freezer.

Bottle Up and Go, book on bottle spells with freezer spells: https://www.luckymojo.com/bottleupandgo.html

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:05 pm

The letter that I received is from s lawyer's office
So do I write the name of that company or the name of the company that I have the dept?

And I just write the name of the company in a paper and the phrase " freeze all legal actions against me" ...and put it in the freezer...no jar no nothing?

Unread post by **JayDee** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:36 am

crystalangel,

Name of the company, the address number, the lawyer or law firm that is contacting you.

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 1:29 pm

Thanks JayDee
Iam a little bit confused...just wondering...Do I put that paper petion in a jar with plain water and nothing else3?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:30 pm

crystalangel --

NO! You want to prepare the liquid in a way appropriate to your work.

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crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:08 am

Thanks Miss Catherine

I have the book...and I have read the web page
But unfortunately I don't have Law stay away bath crystals, I have only the oil...

So I am planning to use
Law keep away oil in five spot pattern
Black mustard seed to stop any legal activity against me
Poppy seeds to confuse them and to not pay attention to my case

But what else can I use, dissolved in the plain water according to my case, since I don't have law keep away bath crystals???
Could you please help me about that?

BalkanDiviner · Unread post by **BalkanDiviner** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:32 pm

A relative pressures me with uncomfortable questions about dating. He's an otherwise intelligent man but at this point I've had enough of each year to put up with nosey distant acquaintances trying to peek into my private life. Being part of the LGBT community in a conservative country translates into constantly lying and making up stories which becomes exhausting on the long run.

I wish absolutely no harm on this individual but I do want to stop his visits which occur during Summer. Is a freezing spell a good idea? What items do I need to avoid in order to inflict no harm, simply stopping his visits.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:07 pm

BalkanDiviner --

A freezer spell would quite appropriate for this situation. Write the relative's name on paper or on the back of his photo. Cross it out with an X and the words "SHUT UP," "GO AWAY," "NO CONTACT," "FORGET IT" in the "arms" of the X. Brew a tea with Red Pepper, Black Pepper, Vinegar, and Alum in water. Chill the tea in the refrigerator. Wrap the paper or photo in several layers of paper napkins and wet it with the tea. Place it in the freezer until it is cold and hard. Place the hardened paper packet in a jar and pour some of the chilled tea around it, calling your commands, and put it in the freezer. When it hardens to ice, add another layer of the chilled tea. Do this at least three times until the jar is full and all is frozen. Then put the lid on the jar and hide it at the back of the freezer.

Good luck!

BalkanDiviner · Unread post by **BalkanDiviner** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:33 am

Fantastic spell! Thank you, Miss Cat! I appreciate how you lay out instructions in a manner accessible to international clients!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:05 am

BalkanDiviner --

Hahahah. First, i am an autistic, logical, visual thinker. Second, my mother was a German-Jewish refugee whose English took a while to get up to speed, so when i was young, i had to help her understand idiomatic phrases and i learned to avoid them in speaking to her. ("So, now, what is this rain check?" is one i remember well.)

Anyway, "thanks for the thanks," as we say in America.

P.S. I just tried Google Translate to convert "rain check" into German and it came out "Gutschein" -- which it re-translates back to English as "coupon." Nix nix to those trix. That's not what a rain check is in idiomatic English. Yes, a rain check can indeed be a literal make-good paper voucher for an event cancelled by rain -- but in the phrase, "I'll have to give you a rain check on that," it means, "I can't do what you want me to do on the date or at the time you have specified, nor do i have another date or time in mind as a substitute, so let's talk about it later."

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:16 am

Could you please help me on my question in my last post here in this thread?
What else can I use about my my case, dissolved in the olain water since I don't have law keep away bath crystals?
Thanks in advance

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:53 am

crystalangel ,

Write the person's name or agency you want to keep out of your life on paper. Pray over it for them to freeze out of your life. Take poppy to cause confusion, black pepper to send people away, alum powder to silence their mouth. Add them to the paper and fold it up. Add more to the jar and fill it with water, pray to freeze out of your life. Now stick in the freezer and forget them.

Poppy: https://www.herbmagic.com/poppy-seed.html
Black Pepper: https://www.herbmagic.com/pepper-black.html
Alum:https://www.herbmagic.com/alum-powder.html

JayDee

crystalangel · Unread post by **crystalangel** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:08 am

Thank you so much JayDee for your help

MrsSchaeffer · Unread post by **MrsSchaeffer** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:21 pm

Hi everyone. I have two questions.

My freezer spells work, but it appears I have to do them every 4-6 months because the person I am freezing comes back around that time. Is there anything else I should do to make them last longer, or just redo them every 3.5 months and work some other spells in the meantime to make sure they remain gone?

Second, what petition would you use to keep someone from violating a restraining order?

Thank you!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:46 am

MrsSchaeffer2020 --

Container spells of hostile intent -- in bottles, jars, mirror boxes, eggs, and freezers, to name a few -- may last permanently or, if the subject of the work is fighting you, they may give way and the person will escape the confinement. When that happens, it's like a spiritual jailbreak. Just hunt them down and bring them back.

MrsSchaeffer · Unread post by **MrsSchaeffer** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:57 am

Will do. Thank you Ms Cat!

CaliGirl1970 · Unread post by **CaliGirl1970** » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:16 pm

Hello everyone,

Need a little help, I’ve just found out my husband of 3 years was reaching back out to his ex’s when we were dating & living together for 3 years. Now we’re married going on 4 years and together 8 1/2 years. We’re doing good but a couple of the ex’s have realized how good we’re doing and now want him back in their lives. He’s so gullible & to me seeks being needed like Super man…so he’s eating it up. I have confronted him and like all men he stated they call him but he don’t answer or call them back (about 8 of them). So you know I checked the cell phone bill & his phone and so far he’s telling the truth. Ms Catherine made a post below. Can I use this and put their names in it and place the pepper, alum, & vinegar water, and fold away from me and freeze them in a jar in my freezer?
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Couldn’t link the original post to this
Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:55 pm
Hello, Nottocarak

Here is a post that Miss cat wrote to freeze out people whose names you know or don't know:

quote="catherineyronwode"

A better way to phrase that, in my opinion, would be
"All interfering bitches, all jealous love rivals, all unknowing love rivals, all inquisitive rival women in search of sex, all street walking whores, all amateur porn makers, all professional porn actresses, all professional escorts, all call girls, all lonely ladies in search of men, all wandering harpies, all drunken one-night-standers, all stoned women in search of money for drugs, all potential rival mates, all bad-ass relationship-breakers, all gay men, all rival women seeking marriage, all rival women seeking money, all rival women seeking sex, all rival woman wanting a man to give them a child, all rival women looking for financial stability, all rival women who want a home, all women between the ages of 9 and 99 who would interfere with, attempt to displace, or damage my love life in any way, at any time, for any reason, or on any whim, you are FROZEN IN ICE and COLD AS ICE and KEPT ON ICE, unmoving, in darkness, isolated, and away!"

I think that about covers it. If you have an actual name, of course it will be more focussed.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:32 am

CaliGirl1970,

Yes, you can do that, the petition Miss Cat made covers the bases of virtually all people, you certainly can add their names to it.

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Angel Eyes · Unread post by **Angel Eyes** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:29 am

Hello

After reading a lot about the freezer spell, I'm still not sure.

Can the freezer spell keep a person in the same state without moving?

I mean. I want a person to stop doing one specifically thing that annoys me or is causing me a lot of problems, and putting this person in a freezer spell, may hold this person doing that exact thing in a repetitive pattern?.

Is just because I'm having a lot of problems with neighbors, I put them in a freezer spell to stop causing the tremendous amount of noise they do with the TV after midnight, and things have goy even worse: the noises are even louder now.
I made a freezer spell with the command "stop doing noises with your TV", and the problem is now worse.

I suspect I have frozen the problem they are causing and It has been stuck in that pattern.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:50 am

Angel Eyes --

Yes, a freezer spell can freeze a named person. How you word your petition leads to what you may get as the outcome.

Angel Eyes · Unread post by **Angel Eyes** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:40 am

Thanks a lot Miss Cat.

I made a freezer spell to stop my neighbor putting the loudspeakers of TV so loud at night, but it got even worse after doing the spell.

I put a paper on the freezer commanding this people to stop doing that, but in this case, It didn't work. Normally this kind of spell usually works for me, but regarding keeping undesirable people away, not in this case. Not to stop a thing, just my personal experience.

I had to call the police last Wednesday, they came, and the cops and me discovered a fact: the neighbor is an minor who is home alone the whole day, his mom arrives super late after midnight, so he is under no supervision at all. Cops told me they would take action into this, I imagine the mother will faces problems because of this, but, the kid continues doing the noises even until 5:00 am., because there is nobody at home.

Police officers advised me to write an email to the police station department if the problem goes repeating, and also call them again if noises continue. I am also going to write the email exposing the mother been out the whole day (and note for job issues, justo for fun) leaving the kid alone, that's a crime in my location that can be punished with prison.

(I know there is a thread about crimen and jail, so I will go there to take some advice).

While I continue with the mundane solutions, I will boost this problem with a bit of "spiritual" support, but don't know about LM products that fit into this.

I was wondering if instead of freezing the situation, I don't know, maybe I should use Cast off Evil products to stop this, indeed, I don't know what type of products should I use for this case.

Please, if there is a thread regarding this problem, I would appreciate been addressed to it. I think the freezing does not work for this, is like the situation is stuck in the ice and keeps going doing the same.
Or maybe, I did it wrong.

Thanks so much.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:07 pm

Angel Eyes,

Not every spell works for every situation. It is very possible that this spell was not the right one for this situation. Freezing a person holds them in a place or location. You may want to do other work to send them away like Hot Foot.

JayDee

BalkanDiviner · Unread post by **BalkanDiviner** » Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:11 am

Hello!

I am highly unsatisified with my driving instructor. We are simply incompatible. Is a “freezing spell” a good way to make him be unable to continue taking lessons with me? I don’t want him cursed, but my family is also anxious in regard to simply transferring from his school because as a former policeman he can badmouth me at other examiners. Thanks!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:21 pm

BalkanDiviner,

Freezer spells stop people in their place and prevent them from moving, though it can also help to make a person cold to you. I would more likely go with Separation which has two people part without the fighting or animosity. Break-up products bring the fighting and such.

Can you simply drop his school and start over in a new one? Tell him you are not ready too busy will return and don't?

JayDee

BalkanDiviner · Unread post by **BalkanDiviner** » Fri May 10, 2024 9:22 am

Hi forum,

I need great help with something. I am in a long distance relationship, my partner loves me and I love him, but he's immature and started flirting with a guy. Can I do a freezing spell on my boyfriend so that he turns cold to the other person? The reason I am asking is because I don't have enough info about the other person. Thank you!

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat May 11, 2024 4:35 pm

BalkanDiviner ,

Generally we do not add the person we want in our life to a freeze jar, rather the person, or persons we want to freeze out. I would use the information you do know and also include other males that your boyfriend may be attracted to and flirting with, in this manner to be proactive to remove future issues as well.

You can read a good petition for this by Miss Cat in the book Destroying Relationships by Miss Aida.

Destroying Relationships: https://www.luckymojo.com/destroyingrelationships.html

JayDee

smyleroi · Unread post by **smyleroi** » Mon May 20, 2024 6:55 pm

Hi again friends.

Im noticing a gulf in a lot of spellwork, where the most prominent options seem extreme. Often the defensive work that seems most useful to me is just nipping foreseeable problems in the bud... since with full-blown issues, ordinary material solutions are often more available. (Or, like with attraction stuff for example, I often just want someone to give me a chance and see if we'd be kind additions to each other's lives. Yet when we search through the grimoires, old and new, and turn to the pages on 'attraction,' it seems like all the bright neon signs are flashing for "love me or die" equivalents). Know what I mean? So I've been trying to shop more for subtler work, getting someone who seems predictably toxic or even mentally ill to leave but not destroy them, potentiating friendship with an interesting person but not coercing them. So generally, if you've thoughts on that, please let me know... However, I understand that this is the freezer spell section and so these are my questions on that:

1. If I just want someone who raises red flags and is potentially troublesome/quite annoying gone from my life or a given environment, but don't want to injure them or send them restlessly walking the earth forever, as per hot footing, would the following be a good option (sort of going for a 'gtfo' vibe rather than an 'esad'?)...

That is, would a petition in a lemon with a razor and cayenne (for speed) all in foil, be sufficient without causing undue harm? Would vinegar be excessive?

2. When trying to get someone to leave/be frozen out of a specific environment, can we name that place/company etc in the petition? Like 'be gone from Imaginary Estates neighborhood' or '...Fake Swim Team' or '...accountants group of Fictional Architecture firm'... Or is mentioning the place like naming a lover who you want to keep around?

3. Can we make freezer petitions conditional, like 'be nice to coach so-and-so or else leave the team'?

4. And finally, can we make nice-ish petitions, like 'gtfo of my monday night poker game but please find happiness and fulfillment elsewhere'?

Thank you for reading. I've tried to take into account the previous stuff in this thread. Hopefully that's clear. I appreciate your time, experience and insight.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Tue May 21, 2024 11:50 am

smyleroi,

Freezer jars are neither Hot Foot nor a Get the fuck out of here type of work, rather they freeze the person, freeze their actions, freeze their words, making them immobile and cold.

1. Adding hot pepper to a freezer jar is messy, why would you add something that produces heat if you want to freeze it? If you do not want to cause harm, why would you add a razor or a lemon with vineger ,all used to cause harm and sour their life?

One reason spell kits are helpful, and also researching the tried and true work of those who have come before you are important and not just making up a spell on our own. When we make them up we can mix our petitions and intentions by adding things that are against our goals.

2. Is the goal to freeze them out of a company or freeze them out of your life? Such as I may say I freeze you from my life and my teammates life but not say my specific name or their names.

3. Freezer jars are not often conditional, either you are frozen or you are not.

4. Seems you are not sure what you want to do at this time and will likely have mixed results.

You do not want to curse them or Hot Foot them, but then want to sour and cut them and add hot pepper; want to freeze them out, but dont want to freeze them out if they follow a rule; or maybe freeze them out if they are nice, or can go have a nice life elsewhere. The energy here is very mixed and so is the petition. I would spend time writing what exactly you want, then research the ingredients, the spells that meet that requirement, then determine the spell that meets the work.

I would more likely suggest a figural candle moving spell where you tell the person to leave unless, use a justified prayer.

JayDee

smyleroi · Unread post by **smyleroi** » Wed May 22, 2024 9:28 am

Thank you very much for your response JayDee. I appreciate the thoroughness and timeliness.

This is from Miss Cat's page on freezer spells:

"Slit open a Lemon and insert the paper. You may add Poppy Seeds to confuse the person, vinegar (yes, adding vinegar to a Lemon!) to sour the person's life, and Red Pepper to cause burning pain until the person leaves the job. Also insert a razor blade, to make sure that the person is "cut" from the workforce."

So, that's why I proposed those ingredients, basing it on her idea for cutting someone out of a situation.

To the mixed signals, like I said, it's just trying to be precise. I figure that in a physical altercation, there are different levels of violence for different exchanges. You don't go after someone with a hatchet who you just want to leave the room. So my sort of preamble was alluding to the desire to find more nuance, which it sounds like is more in the petition.

I really like the figural candle idea, thanks for that as well!