Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places #045 Rev. Art, Rev. James & Doc Murphy: Ethical Eclecticism

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Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places #045 Rev. Art, Rev. James & Doc Murphy: Ethical Eclecticism

Unread post by Reverend Art » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:55 am

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Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places 03/18/2024:

The 45th episode of Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places with Reverend Art, Reverend James and returning guest Doc Murphy, bringing you " Ethical Eclecticism in Your Magical Practice!"

Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places will be on the air at 4pm PT, 7pm ET with Reverend Art, Reverend James and returning guest Doc Murphy! We begin this show with an update from our guest followed by a discussion on how to manage your magical practice respectfully while working within and around many cultures and norms.

Being an eclectic witch is like being a cosmic curator, ethically navigating the rich diversity of cultural traditions to craft a practice that resonates with your soul's deepest truths, honoring the diverse wisdom of humanity's spiritual heritage while treading respectfully and mindfully across cultural boundaries. Each invocation, each spell, each ritual is a testament to the universality of magic, transcending language, geography, and time

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Re: Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places #045 Rev. Art, Rev. James & Doc Murphy: Ethical Eclecticism

Unread post by Reverend Art » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:57 am

Here's the chat log which was generated on the day of the show!

The Mystics, Mages, and Magical Places CHAT LOG, March 18, 2024, 4:00pm PT - 5:30pm PT

2024-03-18 18:48 lmcradionetwork Halllloooooooo!
2024-03-18 18:48 rev_art Welcome everyone!
2024-03-18 18:49 docmurphy1 Hiya!!!
2024-03-18 18:56 heymaganda hi folks
2024-03-18 18:56 docmurphy1 Hi!
2024-03-18 18:56 rev_art Welcome @heymaganda!
2024-03-18 18:57 heymaganda thx @rev_art!!! always happy to be here!
2024-03-18 18:57 rev_art Glad you could make it!
2024-03-18 18:58 rev_art Welcome @wickwayisup!
2024-03-18 18:58 wickwayisup Hello Friends
2024-03-18 18:59 rev_art Welcome @missmarandatarot!
2024-03-18 18:59 docmurphy1 @missmarandatarot Hey hun!!
2024-03-18 18:59 missmarandatarot hello! Working late and decided to listen in tonight! Hello @rev_art @reverendjames & @docmurphy1 <3
2024-03-18 19:00 trollt Just in the nick of time! On the phone now.
2024-03-18 19:00 rev_art Welcome @trollt! :)
2024-03-18 19:00 docmurphy1 Hiya Siva!
2024-03-18 19:00 trollt Thank you kindly. Shared to profiles and Insta!
2024-03-18 19:00 rev_art Welcome @dr-sweets!
2024-03-18 19:00 missmarandatarot hi Siva!
2024-03-18 19:01 dr-sweets hello
2024-03-18 19:01 rev_art @missmarandatarot if you ever get a Monday night free we'll keep the light on for you to guest on the show! :)
2024-03-18 19:01 docmurphy1 YAS YAS YAS
2024-03-18 19:01 docmurphy1 Maranda should join readingpalooza too!
2024-03-18 19:01 rev_art That would be awesome!
2024-03-18 19:02 rev_art Welcome @phyllismargretgabor!
2024-03-18 19:02 phyllismargretgabor hello!!
2024-03-18 19:02 missmarandatarot @rev_art aw! thank you! I've been so MIA on fun things. I'm definitely trying to get back into the swing of things! This winter has been so weird!
2024-03-18 19:02 docmurphy1 :FL:
2024-03-18 19:03 docmurphy1 MINNESOTA
2024-03-18 19:03 docmurphy1 OOP
2024-03-18 19:03 lmcradionetwork @rev_art is a little directionally challenged
2024-03-18 19:03 docmurphy1 LOLOLOL
2024-03-18 19:04 trollt Hoodoo Psychics Contest! https://www.facebook.com/HoodooPsychics ... yGXv2rNeKl
2024-03-18 19:04 phyllismargretgabor I'm late because I was watching a video about the wacky astrology weather happening this Aries season. it seems like it's going to be fun lol
2024-03-18 19:04 rev_art Welcome @hatta!
2024-03-18 19:05 phyllismargretgabor too bad we can't blame it on MapQuest anymore ha-ha
2024-03-18 19:05 rev_art LOL
2024-03-18 19:05 missmarandatarot Wisconsin is our neighbor though! and Doc Murphy does visit that state often!
2024-03-18 19:05 tiegav @phyllismargretgabor what kind of astrology things are happening?
2024-03-18 19:05 docmurphy1 Hay River FireHaven is in WI!
2024-03-18 19:05 rev_art Welcome @tiegav!
2024-03-18 19:05 docmurphy1 I am in WI for fests a lot.
2024-03-18 19:05 tiegav @rev_art hola
2024-03-18 19:05 tiegav :D
2024-03-18 19:07 phyllismargretgabor @tiegav everything is happening on Mondays. a week apart. Itโ€™s interesting. Aries season starts. Mercury retrograde starts the following Monday, then a ln eclipse the following Monday
2024-03-18 19:09 heymaganda Hiiiii! : )
2024-03-18 19:09 phyllismargretgabor hey @heymaganda!
2024-03-18 19:10 reverendjames For those interested in my cologne side project - I'll be trying to get the link to the image that inspired the scent and will post it here shortly.
2024-03-18 19:11 missmarandatarot going into a big hotel and being surrounded by like-minded folks must be so welcoming and fun!
2024-03-18 19:11 heymaganda @phyllismargretgabor Hello Lady!!!
2024-03-18 19:11 phyllismargretgabor i always describe this show as the kids table to The Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour and I love it lol
2024-03-18 19:12 reverendjames https://www.paganarchive.org/
2024-03-18 19:12 missmarandatarot oh man, I love if I can be considered a kid at this table!
2024-03-18 19:12 heymaganda That's funny @phyllismargretgabor
2024-03-18 19:13 trollt Tim the Wizard!
2024-03-18 19:13 trollt Thus making and posting a list of the Elders to be covered is valuable so that others can lend a hand.
2024-03-18 19:14 phyllismargretgabor lol we have so much fun over here! @missmarandatarot you are definitely a kid at this table! lol
2024-03-18 19:16 trollt Circle Sanctuary
2024-03-18 19:16 trollt Spiral Dance
2024-03-18 19:16 trollt Reclaiming Collective
2024-03-18 19:16 trollt Isis Oasis
2024-03-18 19:17 dr-sweets is it mostly wiccan based?
2024-03-18 19:17 trollt Surely there are many many such group coalescences.
2024-03-18 19:18 dr-sweets ok thanks.
2024-03-18 19:18 tiegav whooo thatโ€™s a lot @phyllismargretgabor
2024-03-18 19:19 tiegav this is the big kids table of lucky mojo, lol :D
2024-03-18 19:19 reverendjames We do have fun ;)
2024-03-18 19:20 rev_art We love our Monday night crew! :)
2024-03-18 19:21 tiegav B-| :FL:
2024-03-18 19:21 heymaganda It sounds like a blast!!!
2024-03-18 19:22 docmurphy1 It is!
2024-03-18 19:22 phyllismargretgabor @tiegav and then the following Monday mercury comes out of retrograde, I think. It was so much. We do have fun over here. I like the big kids table lol
2024-03-18 19:23 tiegav yes! I am going to put on a suit of armor before this retrograde
2024-03-18 19:24 trollt http://www.rootdocmurphy.com
2024-03-18 19:24 reverendjames https://www.ROOTDOCMURPHY.COM
2024-03-18 19:25 dr-sweets wait wasnโ€™t she on dr. j's discord Temple of Miriam?
2024-03-18 19:26 docmurphy1 that was me, then, yes...
2024-03-18 19:26 dr-sweets oh ok
2024-03-18 19:26 docmurphy1 ...but had to cut back on all the boards I joined post-COVID
2024-03-18 19:27 dr-sweets yes it can be too much plus the paid memberships
2024-03-18 19:27 rev_art At least you know the Twin Cities are in MN and not WI...
2024-03-18 19:27 docmurphy1 LOLOLOL
2024-03-18 19:28 trollt Lucky Mojo Curio Company: https://www.luckymojo.com AIRR (Association of Independent Readers and Rootworkers): http://www.readersandrootworkers.org Hoodoo Psychics ( http://www.hoodoopsychics.com 1-888-4-HOODOO ) CSL (Crystal Silence League): http://www.crystalsilenceleague.org
2024-03-18 19:29 phyllismargretgabor how many points on Scrabble??
2024-03-18 19:29 reverendjames Triple word score!
2024-03-18 19:29 phyllismargretgabor HAHAHA
2024-03-18 19:30 heymaganda lol - there has to be one in there somewhere
2024-03-18 19:30 trollt TUESDAY: Crystal Silence League (syndicated): The Astral Power, Part 8 TUESDAY: The Witch, The Priestess, and The Cauldron (syndicated): Circle Sanctuary WEDNESDAY: The Now You Know Show (syndicated): Psalms 23 and Grains of Paradise THURSDAY: The Witch, The Priestess, and The Cauldron (LIVE): Balancing Our Elemental Energies SUNDAY: Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour: Papa Gee on Zoological Magic
2024-03-18 19:31 trollt Is anthropology ethical?
2024-03-18 19:31 trollt Has it always been so? Does it self-regulate?
2024-03-18 19:31 dr-sweets hmm.... lol
2024-03-18 19:31 trollt The Ur Culture!
2024-03-18 19:32 trollt Monde primitif!
2024-03-18 19:32 trollt Comte de Mellet
2024-03-18 19:32 reverendjames #1. Appropriation
2024-03-18 19:33 trollt Cultural "progress" used to be thought real. Is it?
2024-03-18 19:33 phyllismargretgabor it's used a lot on social media to describe white people using Palo Santo and White Safe
2024-03-18 19:33 phyllismargretgabor Sage
2024-03-18 19:33 trollt Misrepresentation and deception are problems included in 'appropriation'.
2024-03-18 19:34 trollt I.e. pretending to be what one is not.
2024-03-18 19:34 lmcradionetwork Syncretism is the practice of combining different beliefs and various schools of thought.
2024-03-18 19:35 dr-sweets The end problem is how to you soothe the hurt feelings of a particular group when it happens? No one deals with that part of it.
2024-03-18 19:37 trollt Licensia!
2024-03-18 19:38 trollt Gatekeeping! Is it EVER valuable?
2024-03-18 19:38 trollt I was part of an ongoing Eclectic Coven which was lovely for many years.
2024-03-18 19:38 phyllismargretgabor no! it doesn't benefit anyone
2024-03-18 19:39 tiegav no I think some people take it too far
2024-03-18 19:39 trollt It was far from traditional but included those who were trad-oriented.
2024-03-18 19:39 rev_art I'd have to agree @phyllismargretgabor and @tiegav
2024-03-18 19:40 heymaganda I actually love the concept of eclecticism... the more facets makes a shinier diamond...
2024-03-18 19:40 reverendjames mixed social status or 'caste'
2024-03-18 19:40 rev_art That's an awesome way to put it @heymaganda!
2024-03-18 19:40 trollt Is eclecticism impure?
2024-03-18 19:41 trollt Does it fail at retaining things?
2024-03-18 19:41 trollt Can we be sure it has anything traditional?
2024-03-18 19:41 trollt Aren't ethics variant across culture?
2024-03-18 19:42 trollt Will we find a Best Set of Ethics we think most will agree with? Or will that prove myopic like 'cultural progress' was found to be within anthropology earlier?
2024-03-18 19:42 phyllismargretgabor I don't think I could even pick just one thing ever. on anything lol I love learning too much
2024-03-18 19:42 trollt What is folk religion? How does it work?
2024-03-18 19:43 trollt Can folk develop standards?
2024-03-18 19:43 trollt Or is it always free-form?
2024-03-18 19:43 trollt Is modern technology in communication and whatnot the DEATH of folk?
2024-03-18 19:44 docmurphy1 Folk will always sprout up!
2024-03-18 19:45 trollt CAN it become part of practice if it is secret and licensed? Can traditions be gated and restricted to those who are the elites and authorized?
2024-03-18 19:45 trollt Are there problems with the syncretism?
2024-03-18 19:46 trollt Don't exclusive ideologies conflict? Do all gods and demons get along?
2024-03-18 19:47 trollt 'intersectional'
2024-03-18 19:47 dr-sweets Finding teachers...and of course for an affordable fee is difficult. So folks pick up bits but not the whole tradition.
2024-03-18 19:48 trollt Is Religious Flavour of the Month just surface level?
2024-03-18 19:49 phyllismargretgabor lol thanks john
2024-03-18 19:50 reverendjames I think thatโ€™s the apex of it - itโ€™s not that people take stuff - but they take stuff and then 'pretend' or perpetuate untruths about said things that furthers their 'right' to it....if that made sense.
2024-03-18 19:51 phyllismargretgabor and you're it even on TikTok. it's wild over there
2024-03-18 19:52 phyllismargretgabor i hate seeing large pages doing it. it reaches so many people and it's just wrong information
2024-03-18 19:52 reverendjames ^ so much this - and I have to bite my tongue...
2024-03-18 19:53 trollt At some point religious witchcraft became a 'thing'
2024-03-18 19:53 trollt It was earlier a MONSTER.
2024-03-18 19:54 trollt Are hoodoo Baptist rootworkers Christian witches?
2024-03-18 19:54 dr-sweets LOL
2024-03-18 19:55 tiegav Lol @ trollt
2024-03-18 19:55 trollt No joke, actually seriously asking.
2024-03-18 19:55 phyllismargretgabor lol
2024-03-18 19:55 trollt No joke about the monster.
2024-03-18 19:55 reverendjames Why not? When I was younger, I accepted that label 'Christian witch'
2024-03-18 19:55 tiegav they said a lot of spiritualists are pagan - thatโ€™s why they ring bells and burn incense to drive away spirits that come into church
2024-03-18 19:57 rev_art I would think hoodoo Baptist rootworkers would be Christian witches, personally
2024-03-18 19:57 heymaganda It's an echo chamber
2024-03-18 19:57 phyllismargretgabor @reverendjames there's one large account on TikTok that calls out other accounts. she is a blessing
2024-03-18 19:58 heymaganda I'm a cultural ethnic mutt
2024-03-18 19:59 reverendjames Never have I ever learned something MEANINGFUL and 'true' on social media (not posted from leaders in that practice/community - I have been introduced to leaders and teachers through social media, like YouTube. i.e. Watching a dharma talk by the Dalai Lama that was recorded).
2024-03-18 19:59 dr-sweets I love a black Baptist church and a white Pentecostal church. Very lively. The presence of the Lord seems to truly be there.
2024-03-18 19:59 phyllismargretgabor I'm pretty sure if I went to Greece I would never come back lol
2024-03-18 20:00 trollt Did anyone ever become white? Or is that a myth?
2024-03-18 20:00 dr-sweets they say white is a mutation......????
2024-03-18 20:00 dr-sweets I donโ€™t know.
2024-03-18 20:01 reverendjames @dr-sweets Agreed! I have seen some miracles in these churches once the Holy Spirit arrives. Elderly women who can barely walk - suddenly jumping up and down, dancing, and jumping pews.
2024-03-18 20:01 heymaganda Yes!!!!
2024-03-18 20:02 dr-sweets jumping pews...Lord have mercy I have seen that.... LOL
2024-03-18 20:02 reverendjames See!
2024-03-18 20:02 dr-sweets The minister walked over the pews. Right down the middle.
2024-03-18 20:03 reverendjames Travel Virtually if you have to!
2024-03-18 20:04 dr-sweets did she say Kool-Aid...
2024-03-18 20:06 heymaganda It's actually a great learning experience to be "the other" in a different culture.
2024-03-18 20:06 lmcradionetwork 100%
2024-03-18 20:07 trollt That's key, yes, knowing who one is. That is fundamental to finding a way not to misrepresent oneself.
2024-03-18 20:10 trollt Is personal gnosis valuable? What is it best for?
2024-03-18 20:11 trollt UPG
2024-03-18 20:12 trollt People are refuting the gnosis of others.
2024-03-18 20:13 trollt Can it be *personally verified*? If it is, does it cease being UPG?
2024-03-18 20:14 trollt Isn't gnosis which is shared the basis of religion?
2024-03-18 20:15 trollt Where religion becomes predatory and self-destructive.
2024-03-18 20:15 trollt Jim Jones et al
2024-03-18 20:15 trollt suicide cults
2024-03-18 20:15 trollt Problematic Religious Groups
2024-03-18 20:16 trollt Danger! Suicide! Self-sterilization! Body-mutilation! Self-destruction!
2024-03-18 20:16 reverendjames Why she's called Mama Moses!
2024-03-18 20:18 dr-sweets An example discussion I witnessed at a mystic fair was white folks speaking about and/or wanting certified hand made silver turquoise jewelry for its spiritual value. Then a Native American educated the group that itโ€™s not the stone itโ€™s just the color that is spiritual. So, the stone could be fake. It just so happened turquoise was locally available and used by the natives. So, a lot of the magic/spiritual value that is associated with turquoise/Native American Indians is just not correct.
2024-03-18 20:20 trollt One of the ways of demonstrating this is by asking questions more than answering them.
2024-03-18 20:20 trollt Asking asking asking, people think you might not know.
2024-03-18 20:21 trollt Why are you asking that? Don't you know the answer?
2024-03-18 20:21 trollt Philosophy is the lever through which this extends.
2024-03-18 20:21 heymaganda It smacks if artifice...
2024-03-18 20:21 heymaganda of
2024-03-18 20:23 rev_art Just a bit @heymaganda ;)
2024-03-18 20:25 trollt Redefine humility
2024-03-18 20:25 phyllismargretgabor yeah social media isn't a very humble place
2024-03-18 20:25 trollt What is it at its best?
2024-03-18 20:25 trollt Is it submission?
2024-03-18 20:25 trollt Is it self-effacement?
2024-03-18 20:25 trollt Is it self-destructive?
2024-03-18 20:25 trollt Is it self-obscuring?
2024-03-18 20:26 trollt Is it best self-identified?
2024-03-18 20:26 trollt Knowing when you know something, hm.
2024-03-18 20:26 heymaganda I view humility as a byproduct of life experience.
2024-03-18 20:27 reverendjames knowing there is always room to learn
2024-03-18 20:27 trollt Can you start off humble?
2024-03-18 20:27 trollt Or do you have to learn your way there?
2024-03-18 20:27 phyllismargretgabor i was thinking earlier when you were talking about traveling and I find that very humbling. being the outsider
2024-03-18 20:28 trollt Aren't there MANY paths which teach that there is One True Way?
2024-03-18 20:28 phyllismargretgabor wow! flew by!!!
2024-03-18 20:28 trollt Are they ALL WRONG?
2024-03-18 20:28 heymaganda I think it might be both
2024-03-18 20:28 heymaganda Great conversation!!!
2024-03-18 20:28 docmurphy1 Yay Rev Roy!
2024-03-18 20:28 phyllismargretgabor yes! a great show guys!
2024-03-18 20:28 trollt Yay!
2024-03-18 20:28 rev_art I loved this discussion...!
2024-03-18 20:29 docmurphy1 Yay!!! Hope it helped!
2024-03-18 20:29 phyllismargretgabor me too :D
2024-03-18 20:29 missmarandatarot thanks for tonightโ€™s show!
2024-03-18 20:29 rev_art This is a part 2 MUST!
2024-03-18 20:29 phyllismargretgabor yes!!
2024-03-18 20:29 phyllismargretgabor is the wink wink everyoneโ€™s favorite like it is mine?? lol
2024-03-18 20:29 heymaganda Thanks everyone!!! So much fun!!!
2024-03-18 20:30 trollt Seems like you covered the subject well.
2024-03-18 20:30 rev_art I truly, truly loved this discussion
2024-03-18 20:30 reverendjames Glad everyone enjoyed the show!
2024-03-18 20:30 rev_art discussion*
2024-03-18 20:30 trollt Maybe Part 2 can be Predatory Religions and One Way Truisms.
2024-03-18 20:31 phyllismargretgabor wonderful discussion! Thanks for the awesome show guys!!
2024-03-18 20:31 lmcradionetwork That's not a bad direction to go @trollt! Writing it down now!
2024-03-18 20:31 trollt :D
2024-03-18 20:31 rev_art @docmurphy1 bringing the mic drops left and right tonight, lol
2024-03-18 20:31 phyllismargretgabor I hope y'all have a great week!!
2024-03-18 20:32 reverendjames You as well!
2024-03-18 20:32 heymaganda @phyllismargretgabor you have a great one too!!!
2024-03-18 20:32 phyllismargretgabor hey we learned @docmurphy1 was MVP when we pitted her against AI
2024-03-18 20:32 phyllismargretgabor lol
2024-03-18 20:32 rev_art Thank you everyone for joining us tonight! @phyllismargretgabor @dr-sweets @heymaganda @trollt @wickwayisup and @tiegav!
2024-03-18 20:33 rev_art I'm grateful for every one of our Monday night fam!
2024-03-18 20:33 docmurphy1 Night All!
2024-03-18 20:33 phyllismargretgabor awe and we are grateful for you! @rev_art
2024-03-18 20:33 heymaganda Thanks @rev_art!!! Have a great week everyone!!!
2024-03-18 20:33 phyllismargretgabor night guys!!!
2024-03-18 20:34 heymaganda Yes, @reverendjames and you are just delightful!!!
2024-03-18 20:34 rev_art G'nite everyone, many blessings, and we'll see you next week. Stay tuned to @folkconjure and @folkfaithministries on FB and IG for some cool stuff this week!
2024-03-18 20:34 heymaganda night all
2024-03-18 20:35 lmcradionetwork Time to grab le chat!
2024-03-18 20:37 lmcradionetwork The chat is recorded! Have a great night and wonderful week everyone!
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