Spells for Ex-Lover Ex-Spouse to Return Reconcile Reunite

[JayDee]

Good point but keep in mind in hoodoo wait the 3 days for signs ( how the work will progress) 3 weeks for movement and 3mo for manifestation, though iv seen rec work take way longer, I really think its a good time line to follow in this work as you can easily get caught up into it and next thing you know its 3 wasted yrs later. also you mentioned the IS spirit which is a huge hit on this site, man I hope no ex's of mine use this site cuz im sure it will be put on me LOL..really though this poor spirit needs a break, i sware everytime somone breaks up they want the IS spirit when a honey jar might be whats needed ( hence we need readings to know what work to do), thats like killing a fly with a shot gun ( was it necessary) besides the spell is really punishing them and making them miserable till they return at which point they probably wont stay. Besides the guy is mad at your insecurities and wants nothing to do with you right now, why then torture him while he is mad, does that some how fit with your idea on getting him back? I think id stick with sweetening products to make him nice and caring again long before id go do the IS spell.

[parisshadow]

Thank you all for your wonderful advice. I want to set up a reading, preferably with catherine yronwode, but i see that she is in high demand and her page says it can take weeks for a reading from her. Any personal experience with any of the rootworkers and how soon one can usually schedule an over the phone reading? i'd lover one in the next couple of days. I am going to start work on my honey jar tonight.

[JayDee]

My experience I had a reading with Cat which really didnt take that long like two weeks, who was awsome, she is such a nice women and very honest ie she wont sugar coat lol, which I feel in a reading is exactly what one needs. her reading was dead on with everything, she also takes the time to explain everything both how the process works, the cards and any suggested works. I also have had readings with Bri, who I personally love she is an amazing reader who is kind accurate and very helpful, she is also to the point and will tell you straight face either cut and clear or what work to do. hope this helps..other advice go to the airr website, read through the profiles, their backgrounds and postings by clients. Go withyour gut its never wrong.

[gamecock25]

I'm a new member to this forum, and i saw numerous topics about women using love, money, and protection spells to solve their desirable needs. I'm wondering will these same spells work the same for a man. If not can someone send me some ideas on what should i do to win my ex girlfriend back?

[starsinthesky7]

I think you are misinformed. There are quite a few men on this forum that have reconciliation issues. I would recommend that you get a reading first before starting any reconciliation work. However, you can start with a reconciliation sweet jar, or a reconciliation spell kit.

[deewany]

I finally got the reading.. The reading was definitely spot on, about the past and the present.. She did suggest that i do leave him alone for now, coz he has got a lot on his mind in terms of work and finances, and yes its true.. I pretty much know almost everything he does in job perspective as he used to tell me daily what was going on.. And his feelings r gone as he's got all this issues on his mind.. But our future reading actualy looks positive, as for now, he needs to be left alone to sort out his feelings and past and also his future in terms of life stability and finances etc, but he will come back in future - but unclear wether its gonna be just friendship level or it may even proceed to be on a more romantical level..

And she has suggested i do the Honey Jar and Moving Candle Spell and write a letter and dust Return to Me powder to restore our friendship first before taking any other step.. And i also believe the first step is to restore our friendship first and then slowly helping him and us grow other feelings.. I am going to order my honey Jar along with the Return to Me sachet powder, and im going to get her to do the Moving Candle Spell for me...

But i had a weird dream last night, it was nice, but smthn not expected.. After the reading, all i did was sat and thought about was what actions do i want to take further to restore our friendship and how do i do it, i was given few options so i was just pondering upon it, i din't think of anything more at all more than restoring friendship. The dream i had was - I saw him in my dream and we were actualy being very intimate, to the extent i really felt as though it was really happening, and i suddenly woke up, to find myself feeling as though we really did.. I got up, sat on the bed and wondered what really happened there? I have had dreams before about him, but nothing like this at all.. I really felt like it was happening.. And like, i never even thought of anything as such before sleeping except on how to restore our friendship.. And i also havent contacted him in 11 days, coz i thought he does probably need the time alone, and i just thought i gave him the time to think meanwhile i get a reading and see where this is going..

[barca]

Thank you! Today I will have the reading by Dr E. And I had a sweeat jar with candle on it working and I think it have helped. Freeze ?! I will look it up.

[greekbabyyy]

Ok! Phew! I finally got my glass honey container filled with honey today! Yay!

Also, I have a picture of him, a piece of white paper, a pen, and 2 pink rose petals from my house outside.

Now I have a question - on the page of the honey jar spell with all the information on how to perform the spell, it mentions at the top how you can plant a plant over your honey jar. Could I do that? I really love nature and I find that I can connect with the naturalness of it. Is this method ok?

[JayDee]

I would probably work the jar by burning a pink or red candle dressed with reconcilation oil and come to me oil. due this Mon-weds-fri. pray over the candle as you prepare it and burn it. being you have limited items and resources I think it would be best to work it weekly till you have your reading then decide based on what the workers tells you. Make sure to ask your reader what work to do they will know best based on the reading.

[danger]

Can someone recommend a few spells I can do to get my baby daddy to come back to me? Thank you!

[Devi Spring]

I'm guessing that things may be complicated considering your situation. You may wish to get a reading to find out what's going on, and then how best to approach the work.

[Princesa]

Hi All,

I have been reading such great advice from everyone on this forum. I am sure that this topic has been answered before, however, I have searched the form index, and I could not find the answers that I need. Nevertheless, I am putting this out there..

For experienced practioners of hoodoo or magick, when do you actually state that "OK, I need to move on.." or "This may not work".. I know in magic, patience is one of the values on has to develop since magic does not have a timeline of manifesting. There is no allotted timeframe. I have read in books that you cannot set or mandate a specific timeframe, since working of making changes in a spiritual level takes a lot of time.. I read sometime that one should set a target time, but if the principle of magic is about not setting timelines, then when do you end? I have been working on reconcilliation honey jar for almost a year now, and I don't seem to see actual results. I FEEL actual results, though, manifesting on seeing a ton of signs, dreams and even my own feelings, but when do I throw in the towel? There are times that I actually felt like letting go, forgetting about the whole thing, and then, a sign or something comes up to encourage me to keep the faith. At this point, I totally do not want to give up, I'm just focusing on the end result, meditating on this, etc.. I'm still being positive..

All input is greatly appreciated and I would love to see all your insights/feedback on this, most specifically on manifesting your magic..

Always,
Princess

[Devi Spring]

Well, a year is a long time to work for reconcilation with no movement. The results you mention are all focused on you - your feelings, your dreams, etc. Are you actually seeing any movement as far as your target is concerned? If you weren't seeing good movement in the first few months, did you not consider doing some other works to try and get movement by going at this from another angle?

Also, have you had a reading with a rootworker on this situation?

I would personally move on after much less time than you've been working, and I generally try to have my clients agree to a 4-6month timeframe before agreeing to move on. Of course if there is a good deal of positive movement, that's one thing. But if there are really no results, then moving on is usually best.

I would say since you've been working for a year without achieving your result that you REALLY should get a reading to see what the chances are succeeding or not.

[ShadowyEmbrace]

Well I've set a date for one year with my rec work back in June, but since then I've gotten some really good signs from her. Has this person even contacted you? I mean me and my ex talk now at least five times a week if nothing is going on and since I started my work she is the one that makes the phone calls to me. If you haven't gotten any movement from this person in an entire year as much as it hurts I'd say to give up. Or as mentioned at least get a good reading with AIRRP to see if anything is ever going to happen or if you can try a different angle.

[thelightfantastic]

Folks are advised to put a time frame on their work so they don't become obsessed and work on a particular situation for years on end. That rule of thumb has less to do with the universe and magic and more to do with a person not wasting their time, money and energy on a dead end situation. This is why getting a reading done before any spellwork is performed is very, very important. A good reading can save you loads of time, money and heartache in the long run.

Every situation is different, but IMO if you're doing work on something such as love work on a specific target or reconciliation and you're not seeing significant movement or manifestation within three to nine months (I'm being a bit generous), it might be time to look at doing a cut and clear and moving on. I use love and recon work as examples because those particular areas can be tricky and really warrant a cut off date because the obsession potential.

As far as dreams, signs and positive feelings - all of those things are very helpful in spell work but at some point you have to look at what is actually happening and what your spells are accomplishing. I mean, if someone really wants to justify prolonging their work to get their ex back, they'll take some giant leaps to make something rather innocuous into a big giant sign from the universe that their ex from five years ago is coming back to them. I've been guilty of doing that so I speak from experience.

[ShadowyEmbrace]

thefantasticlight, what do you consider significant movement? B/c it has been three months now so I have nine left. My reader had told me initially that although there was more of a chance of it not happening that magic wasn't out of the question b/c she COULD still see it happening with time, she had told me that its going to take awhile but it could be done. Like I said since I actually started work she is the one that calls me for the most part and see at first before I started work we made contact and I'd call her and although she'd answer she seemed like she wasn't really interested. It's a long distance thing so the only thing from her I can really look to for signs is how much she calls and what she talks about. So with something long distance what would you say I should look for beyond that?

[thelightfantastic]

Significant movement is relative to the situation. For example if you're doing reconciliation work on someone you haven't spoken to in weeks or months and then they contact you, I would say that is significant movement. A positive change in attitude is also good movement.

Since I'm not a reader and don't know your situation well, I wouldn't be comfortable deeming what you should consider significant movement. A talented reader who is aware of what's going on or who has a gift for that sort of thing would serve you better.

[ShadowyEmbrace]

Significant movement is relative to the situation. For example if you're doing reconciliation work on someone you haven't spoken to in weeks or months and then they contact you, I would say that is significant movement. A positive change in attitude is also good movement.

Since I'm not a reader and don't know your situation well, I wouldn't be comfortable commenting on it.

Gotchya like I said I'm getting those things with her as far as attitude her calling me. I was just wondering since its long distance what else i should be looking for b/c its different than if she was living around town or something but I understand where you are coming from.

[JayDee]

I think timelines are good for rec or love work because as mentioned you obsess and next thing you know its 3yrs later a boot load of money spent on products and all you get is a i sometimes miss you text. Thats why a reading is so important to first see if its possible and even worth trying. How hard it can be to accept the answer is no, it may be best to accept it now then 3 wasted yrs later. besides the worker can suggest what to do based on the reading or assist you or do it for you. of course you know in hoodoo its 3 days for signs ( how the work will go) 3 weeks for movement and 3 weeks for manifestation.. now ofcourse rec work can take longer based on how complex it is and often it takes more then one working IE honey jar with a rec spell kit ..etc.. but you should see movement by the end of 3mo if not id really get a reading and decide. I can tell ya from having a bunch of bumb ex's cut and clear works great and cat has a free spell on the LM site you use the products with to get over an old love and bring in a new one.. I highly suggest it as a person who has used it lol

[jwmcclin]

Princesa get a reading as suggested. Good Luck!

[jwmcclin]

I agree with Devi...get a reading...but it doesn't hurt to start a honey jar (while you wait for the reading) found here http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html and you can order it here http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html#honeyjar. Ordering from Lucky Mojo ensures that you have everything needed to start and work the spell.

[greekbabyyy]

Thank you for answering that question for me!

Right now, I"m just waiting for a reply back from the reader I have chosen with a question I had. Then I'll be able to go ahead and do the reading.

I did see him over this week at a gathering. It's just so hurtful how he doesn't show any interest in me at all. Before it was all different and I just don't understand what happened. I am hopeful for things to turn around in the near future. If I keep a positive attitude about the situation rather than a negative one, will it help?

[Princesa]

Thanks everyone for your insights..

I have been getting a number of readings done, and they all keep on telling me that things are definitely possible between us, however, I should be the one to make a move.. However, given where I am at this point of my life, I am focusing on myself and what I truly want, getting myself ready for him (e.g. my career, financial situation, etc.). My ex is high on the social ladder.. I have been hearing positive results from mutual friends that he is still thinking of me and asks about me, but we are not ready for each other to fully commit to a full blown serious romantic relationship. I guess it IS up to me, however, I want the perfect situation and timing for us, thus, I am working on the honey jar.. Funny is that while I am working on my honey jar, other eligibles guys are also out there asking me out .. Hey, I keep a positive attitude and go out with them (nothing serious), but deep in my heart, my ex is still the one that resonates.

I have done a cut and clear a number of times, just to clean and clear the energy.. However, soon after doing so, signs will still point to him..

I will definitely get a reading again soon, any good AIRR workers that you recommend that specializes in love work?? Much appreciate the suggestions.

Again, thanks all!

[Devi Spring]

All AIRR workers are good, or they wouldn't have been accepted into the AIRR.
Browse through the profiles and each worker lists the kinds of work they will do. If you read the bios many will mention what they consider their specialty or particular strengths. You will find several that feel love work is a strength for you, then see which one resonates with you the most.

[JayDee]

its always helpful to be positive, when we live in negativity it seems things just get more negative. Wait for the reading and see what the reader says, if its a good reading then continue with the work, if its negative ( ie its done) then id strongly suggest you do a cut and clear and move on.

[ShadowyEmbrace]

Thanks everyone for your insights..

I have been getting a number of readings done, and they all keep on telling me that things are definitely possible between us, however, I should be the one to make a move.. However, given where I am at this point of my life, I am focusing on myself and what I truly want, getting myself ready for him (e.g. my career, financial situation, etc.). My ex is high on the social ladder.. I have been hearing positive results from mutual friends that he is still thinking of me and asks about me, but we are not ready for each other to fully commit to a full blown serious romantic relationship. I guess it IS up to me, however, I want the perfect situation and timing for us, thus, I am working on the honey jar.. Funny is that while I am working on my honey jar, other eligibles guys are also out there asking me out .. Hey, I keep a positive attitude and go out with them (nothing serious), but deep in my heart, my ex is still the one that resonates.

I have done a cut and clear a number of times, just to clean and clear the energy.. However, soon after doing so, signs will still point to him..

I will definitely get a reading again soon, any good AIRR workers that you recommend that specializes in love work?? Much appreciate the suggestions.

Again, thanks all!

You know if you two have some mutual friends that kinda relay messeges b/t the two of you and you have guys asking you out maybe you should consider taking one up on the offer... I know it sounds contradictory but if you say to a friend that he knows "Oh yeah I'm having a date with this guy but its nothing serious." It will get back to him and he might realize you might not be around forever and that'll push him to make a move... However, I don't know this guy you do and you know his personaility type so use your judgement with that approch.

[Princesa]

lol! Shadowyembrace, your suggestion has surely crossed my mind. My ex is very business minded, therefore, I need a strategic approach on him.. Thus, I absolutely dwell on readings to evaluate my moves..

I would absolutely consult with an AIRR worker on my situation.. Thank you all for your valuable insight.. I do not think that I am obsessing on this issue, I actually have been focused on myself, it's just that he just somehow "crosses my mind", even when I go out and meet men.

Thanks!

[starsinthesky7]

I agree with getting both a reading, and a honey jar started. During your reading, you need to have several issues addressed. 1) Is he dating or seeing anyone else? 2) How does he feel about you 3) What is preventing him from coming back to you, and 4) what spell work or products need to be done for you to bring him back to you. That is just a guideline, and without knowing your exact situation those are the questions I would recommend answering. In addition, you need to considering why you and him are not together in the first place because that needs to be addressed. If you and him are not compatible then it is time to move on to someone that is more deserving of your love.

[MistyBlue]

Hey I am new here but not to using oils and herbs. I have a couple of questions. I am sorry this is long.

I have decided to use LM oils on an ex of mine. I am going to give you some history. We are talking and working on rebuilding but right now I am the one doing all work. He talks to me when I call or text and he is very nice to me and open to conversation but I need him to step it up and act like he wants to be with me. I basically want him to call me on his own, want and lust for me, and want to be with me, I want him to be my guy but just fun no marriage! He wants me to chase him and it needs to be the other way around. Really!

I was going to use Follow Me Boy, Kiss Me Now, and Attraction oil. Is there anything else I can add? Reconciliation oil? Maybe? I am not sure about that one because we are speaking and on good terms.

I am ordering these oils but not necessarily for this purpose. And possible 2 more
Attraction
Bewitching
Cleo may
Come to me
Commanding
Fast luck
Follow me boy
Jezebel
Kiss me now
Van van
Again I am not ordering all of these to mix together but just to have.
Out of these what are the best combo’s to get what I want from this man. Which is fun at this point if you know what I mean. We are past the point of reconciliation because we are talking . Is there any oil on my list or herbs that will make this more effective. I need it to happen fast to because I am growing impatient with him. Also I normally am in personal contact with people I am working on. With him, I only talk with him on the phone and I am the one doing the calling. How will it work if he can’t smell the scents? How many can I mix before It smells bad? If I dress the phone with the oil would that work or do I need to dress the phone and call him. I was going to use a mojo hand with the LM oil, his photo, personal info, 2 lodestones and a few herbs. I was also going to wear the oil when I see him or make some bath and body for myself. ( I do that too) Do I need to add some of my fluids to the lodestones? I have never worked a spell like this so I am unsure.

There is one more question. He is a very intuitive person. I don’t want him calling me up telling me I am working roots on him. Do you think that would be a problem? Sorry if I seem ignorant, but I just don’t know as I would normally do things differently. Any help would be great. And yes I am going to order the “Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic” book.

[starsinthesky7]

First and foremost, I would highly recommend that you get a reading because it will help you address such concerns as these. Perhaps there is more to the story, and why he is not chasing after you. Those questions and concerns would have to be answered by a reading. As for things happening fast, well a hurried job gets you hurried results that can lead to things quickly falling apart. In addition, this relationship is not 100% reconciled obviously, and it is going to take sometime to build things back up again. You do not know want to do this fast, and not to mention there is not really a way to make things happen quicker than they already are. However a reading will ensure that things are going the best they possibly.

For what you are saying, he is not interested in you or is not acting like he is interested in you. Personally, I would work the spellwork, and back off of initiating contact with him so much. Make him miss you.

i think the appropriate products would be, follow me boy, return to me, come to me, and bend over (if you want something more abrasive).

Personally, I would do candle work, and work with a baby doll to help do this work.

You can mix as many oils as you want. I mean you could dress the phone, and like I said I would back away from calling him so much. That is just my personal preference that way you can let him make the contact, and let him come after you. I am not saying do not call him at all, but let him make some contact with you first for once.

No you do not need to add any of your fluids to the lodestone. A come to me spell and reonciliation kit has lodestones in it along with directions so you can purchase this spell kit to help address your needs.

http://www.luckymojo.com/spell-come-to-me.html

As for him discovering your spellwork, well if he has not figured out your work thus far, then I do not understand why he would now unless he got a reading. I would just deny it, and keep moving forward.

But I would still get a reading, and see why he is just not making a move towards you.

[MistyBlue]

Thanks.

The reason why I say he's not doing what I want him to do because it was HIS idea to start this things back up again. He was the one who said let’s do this and now he is being passive. He is totally leaving the ball in my court. I have never been one to make the first move or chase anyone. I have not called him in a week or two because I wanted to see if he will call me. (Even though we only talk once or twice a week) I have done the not calling thing before and he gets angry and asked why I didn’t call him or wonders if he has said something to upset me. When we do talk there is a lot of kinky talk and flirting but he never follows threw. He says he’s interested but talk is cheap. There is more to the story but I won’t go in into it here. I do think he still has issues even though he says everything is fine and forgotten. In addition, I think he needs a swift kick in the butt. I am sure if I just tell him what I want he would be happy to oblige but I want him to come to me. Does that make sense? So enough with the relationship therpy.

So what your saying is use the candle spell and not the hand? Or both in conjunction with each other. And dress the phone in the oils you mentioned. It doesn’t have to work fast like that but I do need him to step it up if he wants what he says. I will have to look into the baby doll. I have never used one before.

[starsinthesky7]

I think you need to get a reading, and I feel strongly about that in this case. There are many issues that need to be worked out besides doing just love work. Obviously, there is something in him that is having him be wishy washy, and without that being resolved along with other thing...then this is not going to work. So before order anything...get a reading. It may save you sometime , and give you the answers you need will all this being up in the air.

I mean you might want to rely more upon candle work rather than dressing yourself with oils because it is more practical since he is not going to touch or smell the oils. Yes, you can dress the phone with oils, but I would do the candle work along with that.

[doughnut_hand]

There was a time when he was crazy in love with me , now many months later we have broken up . He broke up with me and says i cant change his mind.
Previously we broke up before and i used a honey jar and he came back .

Im willing to do anything, but i dont want to harm him . i love him so , and i just want him to know that i would do anything for him.
Life has been difficult for me, im in so much pain.
What can i do? what should i do?

I have gotten a reading that said that i can get him back if i want. Another reader also said that he would come back to me within a month , but more then a month has passed since she said that , and he has not.

[Devi Spring]

Well, were those readings with rootworkers, or just general psychics? Since it doesn't sound like any particular work was suggested, I'm guessing they were just general readers.

I would strongly suggest that you invest in a reading with a rootworker, so that they can look deeply into the situation to see what is going on, and if the situation can be salvaged, and if so what work would be recommended. The longer time goes on after a break-up, the more difficult it becomes to work a successful reconciliation, so definately get in with a rootoworker as soon as you're able. You can find a list of good rootworkers at http://www.readersandrootworkers.org

If things can't be concluded successfully, then at least you can do some Cut and Clear work and Healing work for yourself and then move on to drawing a more suitable partner. Life's too short to waste time on lost causes.

Get that reading!

[doughnut_hand]

yes one was a general tarot reader, and the other was a general psychic .

How would a rootworker's reading differ from a general reading?

[Devi Spring]

It would be looking at the situation from a magically strategic context - what is going on AND how would one then fix it through conjure. They not only tell you what the reading show, but then will provide recommendations for what magical acts to take, or for them to perform on your behalf.

[greekbabyyy]

Thanks again, j82! Hopefully my positive attitude will pay off! I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
I emailed my rootworker of my choice to ask her a question a while ago but she hasn't responded back since.

[jwmcclin]

You may need some helpful conjure yourself while you wait greekbabyyy. Have you tried cleansing and drawing spells?

[parisshadow]

I haven't had time to get a rootworker to speak with me since it has to be scheduled days in advance. So i may have jumped the gun and did a honey jar and the intranquil spirit spell as well. I felt sick for about two days with obsessive thoughts and depression even though i was cleansing myself with baths, pslams 23 and cleansing the house with van van. I'm better now wiith one day left of candle burning left. My question is how do i know it's working on him if we haven't spoken in 3 weeks at all? Do i light another intranquil candle after this one is out or let this one work it's magic? how long does it usually start to work after the spell is cast , its been about a week now. Thanks

[theusurper]

Don't do it IS, i have bad but bad expirience with that spell. I never, ever in my life i do that spell again.

[parisshadow]

well, its a lil late , i've already done it. Could you please give details on what happened in your sitation? Thank you much.

[Aina2]

If you have already done it, then great. Just let it do its job. No need to light another candle. Exercise a little self-control and let the target contact you. The Intranquil Spirit is a potent spell and works very well if you handle it right. Good luck.

[lccrenshaw]

My boyfriend of almost a year and a half broke up with me about 4 weeks ago. I was thinking about doing the IS so I could bring him back, since today makes a month and I know the longer you wait to perform any spell the less chance you have of obtaining your ex. So should I do the IS, or the reconciliation kit or the honey jar. I have my reading next week.

[parisshadow]

My boyfriend of almost a year and a half broke up with me about 4 weeks ago. I was thinking about doing the IS so I could bring him back, since today makes a month and I know the longer you wait to perform any spell the less chance you have of obtaining your ex. So should I do the IS, or the reconciliation kit or the honey jar. I have my reading next week.

I feel your pain, my boyfriend of 9 months broke up with me 4 weeks ago too and tomorrow is 3 weeks on no communication whatsoever from either of us. The simplest thing to start is a honey jar and wait for a reading. I jumped the gun out of desperation and just finished the intranquility spell after praying to it for a week. Everyone has told me to wait for my reading but i got impatient and did it anyway. So far still no results , still no communication. Are you speaking to him? They say it's best if you aren't speaking at all because then they are tormented more and must contact you first. Whatever you decide keep me updated please,and ill post any movement i get on here as well. Were in this together and i'd feel since were in the same boat we can help eachother out and see what the other has done and seen results. Blessed be!

[greekbabyyy]

No I have not tried that yet. Are there any prayers I could say while I wait? Or should I seek a different rootworker?

[starsinthesky7]

I would recommend that you can do a simple egg cleansing, or you can find herbs that are used for uncrossing such as rue, eucalyptus, or you can even use sea salt if thats all you have at the moment. As for drawing, you can have some vigil lights lit by the missionary church if you have to. If the reader is taking too long...longer than 3 days at the max then find someone that is more prompt and can ask your question by scheduling a reading with you.

[zlove]

Good morning folks,
Good news, I'm not expecting. phew(wiping sweat off forehead)
since my last sexual encounter with my ex, we texted a few times. he was always flirty but rejected every suggestion I made to hook up again. I think he fears I can't handle the "friends w/benefits" and is trying to control/cool things. I started to notice that his communications were a bit colder and insensitive, telling me he had evening plans and couldn't take me etc. Giving me the impression that he is dating others. Taking me for granted. I realize that a man who is insensitive with a woman or takes her for granted means he doesn't respect her and no man will consider a woman he doesn't respect as a candidate for a relationship or marriage. I decided to get my respect back even though it meant ending our sexual encounters. I replied saying that I as much as I enjoyed our fun night, I felt empty afterwards. That this "friends w/ben" doesn't work for me. And I even questioned his friendship. He was shocked and replied immediately, apologizing for being insensitive and agreeing about just being friends and ended the email with hugs and kisses . He gave me my respect back and now he may be intrigued since I rejected the kind of relationship he wanted. People mostly value what they took for granted when they can't have it anymore. Anyways, I'm glad I have my respect back and learned that "friends w/ben" wasn't going to be the way to get closer to him but the opposite. I did not reply since his last communication, but did notice on my email's read-recipt report that he reopened the email twice a couple of days after. He is def thinking of me. I am giving him little space for a couple of weeks but I still love him and want to be with him in a longterm romantic relationship.
I went to get a reading and the reader asked me if I had just communicated with him since we came out clearly talking. She said he was thinking about a conversation we had. (wow, she was right, even the readrecpt showed he opened it again days after) She said he is attracted but not showing his feelings. She said he enjoys sex with me and doesn't want to give me up. (which makes sense given his apology. I mean he could have told me to take a hike when I said I didnt want the Friendsw/b anymore) She said that I should do the red apple conjure and can light a red vigil to Stbarbara. She said he will contact me again and that we will attend an event together. She said maybe he will invite me to an event or I will bump into him at an event. She said there is still a good chance and said I need some cleansings baths.
I did the vigil and apple. The candle burned a little sooty on the very top but the rest of the glass was clear. I suppose now I need the uncrossing bath.
Any one worked this red apple conjure with st barbara?
After my bath, what do you recommend?
Anything I should redo?
Or something for him to come forward? I want him to approach me next.
I am giving him a little space for a couple of weeks but I still love him and want to be with him in a longterm romantic relationship.

[starsinthesky7]

If you got a reading from someone AIRR or not, then you need to ask them about the spell or ritual they suggested. As for the soot on the top, I would suggest a road opener, and repeat it to see if it burns sooty again. If it does, then you need to get another reading to see what needs to be done so that you can work through the obstacles.

I would suggest working with St. Martha to get him to come forward,s and get what you want. If the friends with benefits does not work with you, then do not do it. It is only feeding into something that you do not want with him. You want a relationship, and he may not want that, but is okay with you and him being friends with benefits. You and him will not be walking down the same road. In any case, you need to get a reading to figure out WHY he does not want to be in a long term relationship with you, and what if anything can be done to bring you and him together that way.

[ShadowyEmbrace]

I've been at my reconciliation work faithfully everynight for almost a month now and I'm starting to feel spiritually exhausted b/c I have to do my work at night I haven't been getting as much sleep as a need for during the day I'm just starting to feel like all my astral substance is bleeding out of me.

I've been searching through the AIRR members pages to try to find a rootworker than can take this over for me for awhile while I just work my honey jar and spell bottle but I think that's half the problem while I work/shake my bottle I pray and pray and conjour her spirit say prayers to her gaurdian angel for hours and hours each night while I burn the honey jar candle.

What can I do to simply my work but still keep it effective?

And as far as a rootworker goes I really would set the money aside to have a spell cast for me but I'm worried when I go for my reading they will tell me its not worth it and won't do the work for me.

I was told on my first reading that although it looked as if us getting back together if we did wouldn't be till later in the future that there was still some chance it could happen, she said it was more no than yes but there was some yes to it just a ton of resistance and I don't want to save up the money have the reading then the rootworker say its a lost cause.

Despite the odds I would pay to have some work done for me but then I think well if the worker is saying the odds are against me but agrees to do the work anyway after I tell them that then their heart won't be into it.

Can I please get some input on what I should do?

I know I need a new reading in general b/c I know the work I've done has gotten me some positive movement from her so maybe I'm in a better boat by now but still.

Oh and I'll be starting a new job within a week or so so I'll finally have the money to get this done.

[Miss_Liz]

My advice is to get a reading from Starr. She helped me with my love work and it really took off. If you're so drained try pulling back to MWF working and don't work longer than an hour or 2. If you're that afraid you're going to get told to give up and move on, then maybe that's something you should think about, you could be trying to tell yourself something you're too stubborn to listen to. Really though, call Starr, she'll give it to your straight and will give you the tools you need to pick things up a notch if it can be done.

[ShadowyEmbrace]

Actually Eilis19 I feel in my heart and by certain signs I've gotten from her just her attitude in general that things are looking up but I'm such an amatuer I know I could be off and at this point with all the work i've done and how positive I feel about it I'd crush me if I was then told nothing has changed is what I meant by that.

And I know AIRR is legit and wont do work if they feel the cause is lost but I know it isn't.

Based on some info I've gotten recently that made a lot of sense about her I'm also starting to try to figure out if my approach is the right angle to take. Although I have great faith in some of the things I've done that it'd make a difference regardless.

But Starr, I'll give her a look, I just know I'll be having money coming in now and will be able to buy alot more supples but I'd just feel better knowing a professional is also working along with me b/c I'm new to Hoodoo and this girl means the world to me and I want to make sure everything is being done correctly so I don't want to start exstremely advanced spells myself.

But I am just scared I'll be told what my intution is saying is off and they won't agree to help me.

[Miss_Liz]

I know, reconciliation work is hard and scary and you will go to great lengths to twist things into positive signs no matter what. I can give great advice to everyone else but can't keep my own crud together, so yeah, I feel you.

[thelightfantastic]

If you're feeling spiritually exhausted, that's a huge sign you should either scale back on the amount of work you're doing or stop for a time. IMO, it sounds like what you're doing is far too much for your skill level and now you're feeling the effects of it. You don't necessarily need to pray for "hours and hours" on a nightly basis. The amount of time you pray isn't a deciding factor, your intent and focus is really what matters. I think you should work on focusing your intent and look into doing some clarity work for that. Burning an appropriate incense while you pray may help as well.

One to two spells a months MAX is what I'd recommend to someone first starting out. It's very tempting to throw a hundred different spells at a situation (especially reconciliation) but in reality, that doesn't make things manifest faster or make something happen that is simply isn't meant to be.

I would recommend that you not do any new work for a few weeks, and simply focus on what you have going on at the moment. Limit yourself to one to two spells per month until you can figure out how many spells you can do effectively while still maintaining your spiritual balance. Doing something like a 9 herb bath probably wouldn't hurt either.

[ShadowyEmbrace]

If you're feeling spiritually exhausted, that's a huge sign you should either scale back on the amount of work you're doing or stop for a time. IMO, it sounds like what you're doing is far too much for your skill level and now you're feeling the effects of it. You don't necessarily need to pray for "hours and hours" on a nightly basis. The amount of time you pray isn't a deciding factor, your intent and focus is really what matters. I think you should work on focusing your intent and look into doing some clarity work for that. Burning an appropriate incense while you pray may help as well.

Well its not really that I do spell after spell after spell. Here let me describe my nightly ritual. At my Alter while kneeling I begin my honey jar candle dressing I first clean the candle, I then read Psalms 23 Say a very nice prayer to her Guardian Angel, I then state my petition to her directly then I carve in a spiral down the candle with a nail "(Her name) return to me (My name)" or I carve Love me in the middle depending on the day. I then repeat those steps the reading of psalms 23 the prayer the petition, I do this before applying each oil (I use reconciliation oil, return to me, and a very small dab of commanding oil) I then dust the candle upward with reconciliation sachet powder (this procedure was given to me by a friend on here that has been very helpful he knows who he is ) I think light the candle and repeat the prayer I've wrote to her Angel and I repeat the petition nine times to her.

I then spend about ten minutes simply kneeling before the honey jar candle in meditation. In my mind I try to invision us standing in a green pasture facing each other I reach out and take her hands in mine and pull her close kissing her and whispering in her ear that I love her and will never hurt or leave her again, that she is truly safe with me forever and that I'll take away all the pain from her past (she was abused as child... well more like tortured). I spend like I said about Ten to 20 mins as the candle burns replaying this exact sceen in my mind as I do I try to "send it to her" like in a dream I actually usualy say a prayer to her Angel before I start this meditation for him to carry this scene a play out to her in her dreams as she sleeps.

After this mediation as the honey jar candle is still burning (I don't stop my prayers or whatever I'm doing until the honey jar candle is totally burnt out thats when I know its time to end it for the night) I take the bottle spell I light rec incense, saying another prayer of blessing to her Angel I pass the bottle over the incense asking that he bless my efforts and carry my words to her thoughts and mind. I then stand and I begin a conjour I've wrote out by have memorized now, I read the 23 Psalam then I say out loud "(Her name) I conjour your spirit before me now that you hear my words and take them into your heart and mind in Gods name in Christs name and in the Name and by the Power of the Holy Spirit I conjour your spirit forth. I then begin shaking the bottle while standing and stating the words of the petition I wrote out and placed in the bottle. I shake it and keep stating the petition for the next hour sometimes dancing around the Alter. When the candle has about 20 mins left I stand still holding the bottle I first focus on the flame of the candle on the jar. I then shut my eyes blank out my mind, I invision her literally standing in my room in front of me, holding the bottle I physically reach out my hands to her pull her close and kiss her and I tell her what I tell her in the other visionary thing I do I just do it as if she was standing in front of me. Each time I do it the mential expercise physically I open my eyes and check if the candle has gone out, if it hasn't I repeat it again and again until it does. After if goes out I turn my nightstand light back on and shake the bottle for another half hour this time not conjouring her spirit but praying to her Angel. All that LoL usually take me about 3.

The prepping the candle(which the technique I was given has actually gotten me good movement so I can't cut that out) takes about 15 mins, the candle takes about an hour and a half to burn then I do the other bottle shaking for the next half hour or so. Then before going to bed each night I make sure to pray for about it just to God and Christ I burn and white tea candle and make sure I keep praying until it is out... That is my daily routine at night (and yes I'm not getting much sleep now LoL.) and I have cut back at first I was burning all kinds of candles and doing all kinds of prayers etc so I have cut back. But still I think its because I actually do totally clear my mind a concentrate so hard on my work is whats wearing me out and sometimes when I do the thing while i stand and pretend she is there I get emotional and start crying which wears me out too.

With school starting soon and work I'm just not going to have it in me to devote half my sleep time to her. I mean if I have to I'll drop a class so I have the energy to, but I'd like to find a worker who can take over some of it for me but again I feel like I'm making progress but I don't want to call and them say no sorry its not worth it and I won't do any work for you.

[thelightfantastic]

As I stated previously, the amount of time and energy you're spending on your work is quite obviously too much for you to handle. The fact that you're admittedly not sleeping enough isn't exactly helping matters either. You can rationalize your actions all day long, but it's not going to change the situation you're presently in. It has been said on this forum time and again that if you find yourself feeling spiritually worn out for whatever reason - ease up on/stop doing spells, cleanse, and go back again after some time has passed. If there were another alternative, I certainly would have suggested it.

That said, spell work should be a part of your life - it should NOT take up your entire life. There are certainly times when it can and will inconvenience your life for a short time, but you should not give up things like schooling (or even a class) because it may interfere with doing a spell. That sort of behavior isn't healthy nor is worrying about things that haven't happen or may never happen. Stop focusing on what you don't want and just deal with the here and now. If you take life a day at at time and stop trying to cover all future bases (which is impossible anyway), life becomes a whole lot easier.

[starsinthesky7]

What I see and understand is that you are asking for advice...you state "I need some input" meaning you need some advice or want some advice. However then you come back and say...something that negates what you previously were asking input on.

I mean if you want to keep going by all means do it, and you do not have to take the advice that has been echoed several times in a post or two. But you ask for advice, and do not even listen or consider it. Then A) you only consider it after you have experimented, and realize things did not go your way or B) you simply do not fully listen and figure it wont happen to you or its not what is going with you.

Listen, you are drained plain and simple otherwise you would not have wrote this post. I agree with the previous poster that you need to take a break. This stuff is not suppose to consume your life, and even though you are thinking it probably isn't. It is as its constantly on your mind, and you are constantly trying to boost this and boost that with such and such spell. Take a break. Do not get a reading...do not light a candle as you are drained.


You are operating at half or less than your maximum self that you can focus, and do your spell work. That is being translated into your work so the more you continue on like this the more frustrating its probably going to be for you to help your work manifest.

[Miss Tammie Lee]

Time for some rest. We all need breaks SE. Breaks are relative to the individual in terms of a timeline. When you have rested, there will be clarity in your thinking and the focus you put into what you are trying to accomplish.

[mysticguy]

Hello everyone,

I'm having a problem need your help. I'm a a gay man in a gay relationship for over 3 years. He lives with me and in the past we had issues back & forth in 2009 of him leaving due to arguments. I worked with oils,, incense, and 7 day candles only for many years, because somehow image & gender candles, and dolls dont really work for me like that. He knows of this, but I kist let him know I deal with only money and evil removing stuff and not love..THATS MY SECERET!

We argued in the past of his family & bad choice of friends each friend that I say that will do him dirty did and his family is selfish and I think the family house it jinxy. It is always something going bad or deadly there. But recently was his birthday and due to money issues and 4 other relatives birthdays during the 2 weeks he wasn't satisfied on how his birthday should be and I think he took his frustration of how his family treated him on his birthday on me and that day he apologized. He sibling which is a drag-queen came in town and wanted to take him to a bar. I didnt want to go cause it wasnt my scene anymore and they were going with someone that always caused drama, so keep the peace I visited a friend to the club/bar was over. He called me after the bar and said he was at his siblings room. I told him I be home shortly and call me when he is on the way and later he never called nor returned my calls. I was worried and couldnt sleep and thought something bad happened. He called morning and I listen to his story when he said it was too late to come home and he was drunk. I got upset and told him it was over.

[mysticguy]

PART 2:

Later that day he came and got few clothes instead of all. I felt bad of over-reacting that day and tried to get him back. Incense and oils in my state and few of others isnt good.. they are bad which cost me so much money and forced me to make a few of mu own oils. I knew I had to act fast since I never had LM products. So I used some of my old oils I made to use with 7 day candles to help bring him back and to move back in with me:

Red Candle -dressed with Come To Me, Love, Return To Me, Attraction oils and with pinch of sugar, honey and rose petals
Pink candle -dressed same as red candle to open heart and mind to be nicer and trust to be in relkationship with me again
Healing Candle - to heal our mind and heart and relationship to be together again
Peace Candle- bring peace between us and our relationship
Do As I Say & Hi John Candle- dressed dressed same as red Candle & added Controlling & Hi John oil to have him move back
Black Candle- to remove blocks so he can return to me

30 seconds before I lit the candles he called just asking for his things saying he going to live in shelter. I apologized for over-reacting and ask to work it out, but just replied he loves me but upset over birthdaty outcome. Next day he called 3 times & i missed his calls. He popped up that morning unexpectedly to get all his cloths & he acts polite, but he seems as though he dont want to really leave cause just take 1 outfit and wanted me to eat some b-day cake with him and watch TV then later mentioned he spend some nights here sometimes. He said he dont know about us being together, but 5 minutes later praying over candles again he said we are together, but still be in shelter. He texted me 5 times on cell seeing how I'm doing while he was at work.

[mysticguy]

PART 3:

Before he text my cell I said I need some strong stuff. I couldn't go back to these curio shops that I been to and get these messed up oils. So I said let me try LM and this is what i ordered from LM that I am waiting to get here so I can use to bring him back and to move back with me since he can be a little stubborn:

LM Bend-over Incense & oil, Lavender Love Drops Oil, Q oil, Follow Me Boy Incense & Oil, Stay At Home & Stay With Me Oil & Sachet powder. I figured I use the sachet since he has a bunch of shoes and I can put in the soles. In the meantime til the order comes I pray over the candles that I have now with the love incense burning under his picture and during the praying he called me twice saying he wants to come to see me for a little while if I am free.

I dont have much success with the dolls, stick, image nor gender candles, just 7 day candles. I have 1 of his pair of underwear's in back yard from last year and I still have some of his underwears available. Any suggestions or tips to help him move back in and to bind us together will be greatful.

P.S. Sorry for long post and trust me on this when I see the results from LM they will be getting orders for me for quite sometime