Re: Spells For True Love, True Commitment, Moving In, Engagement

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:58 pm

When I suggested a reading it wasn't to see what is going to happen in the future between you and him. You need a reading/consultation to help you devise a spell casting plan to see A) why your spells have not manifested B) if you are doing the right things for your situation.

I would recommend starting off with a honey jar such as a come to me one. There just seems more to the situation, and there is a reason why he is not moving towards you the way that you want him to. He wants to take things slow, but he is not making enough effort to see you, and things are not like they once were. So that is why I recommended the reading.

silly_me · Unread post by **silly_me** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:02 pm

Thank you

Unread post by **Hope** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:41 am

Hello everyone,

I have been studying hoodoo for a couple of month now and I really enjoy this site. LM products are the best I have used so far and I am definitely not going back to any other.

I am currently waiting for my book from cat as well as my last LM order to arrive but I would like to gather information for my next spell and I hope you could help me.

I would like that my bf takes the next step and moves in with me. I had a reading and was told that he needs some courage work as well as the extra “spark” to realize that I am the “one”.

I already have a honey jar to keep him in general sweet to me. Now I would like to make an other honey jar with the specific purpose to make him move in.

My questions are now:

a) which spells are the best to give him the courage ( I already ordered courage products) to move in with me (which candle set-up would be the most effective)

b) how to give him this “extra” spark he needs

c)my parents are coming to visit me for a couple of weeks, how can I keep the home peace

and

d)I am worried that my bf gets discouraged to visit me and spend the night at my place knowing that my parents are currently here. Would could I do?

Thank you all very much

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:49 am

A)I would simply get a red or purple candle, and put the courage powders/and oils on the candles. Write your targets name on the candle, and the command "give him courage to move in with me" Then on the name paper you are going to write his name 9 times then cross it with "give him courage to move in with me" If you have a personal concern then put it inside the paper and fold it towards you and put it under the candle. It does not need to be an elaborate set up for it to work

B) I would work the red candle spell,and put thoughts into his head to help him realize that you are the one. You can find the red candle spell on the forum search or if you still can't find it PM me.

C) You need to work with peaceful home products

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:56 am

D. You know your parents...and your boyfriend (does not, at least you didn't mention a relationship between him and them) may feel that way out of respect...I know I would...and you do want his respect.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:39 am

The purple courage working sounds just what you need. I'd also work a honey jar aimed at getting him to move in with you and aimed at committment. You can work with Stay with Me products to help take things to the next level. In addition to all of this what I would recommend is that if you can, try lifting his footprint. If there is dirt in front of your house get him to walk through that as he's leaving your home. Once he's gone lift his footprint very carefully, toss some Stay with Me powder on it then turn the footprint around as you pray so that it is walking towards your home rather than away.

Good luck!

Unread post by **Hope** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:58 am

Thank you all for your input. I cant wait for my order to arrive so I can start with the courage work.

And the idea with the food prints sounds great. CM, how can I lift the food print the best way? Are their any materials that I could use to make it easier to lift it?

At the moment, he already put most of his clothes and his belongings in my apartment and spends most nights here. But it is like he can never completely bring himself to move in with me (its like a small part of him shows still some defense) and after a few days he goes back to his place. Its like a back and force.

Now that my parents are coming to visit, he said that I don't have to worry and he will get his stuff out of here so that I have more space. Even though I appreciate the respect he shows to me and my parents it is totally the opposite from what I want.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:24 pm

It seems he is already there, follow ConjureMan's advice and 'bring the commitment.'

Unread post by **Hope** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:43 am

Thanks, I will definitely use this great advice

Do you have any advice how I can lift the foot track and turn in without destroying it?

I also considered working with Santa Martha.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:57 am

If you search the forum, there is a lot of advice on working with Saint Martha. You can use large masking tape and lift the footprint without destroying it.

Unread post by **Hope** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:54 pm

Thanks for the idea

I don't know why I couldn't think of it myself

I cant wait for my order to arrive - I always get exited like a child on Christmas

By the way, I still have the "stay with me bottle" spell that I did not start yet. Do you guys have any ideas how I can involve it in my plan to get his full "commitment" and move in with me for good?

Theclassymami · Unread post by **Theclassymami** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:11 pm

I have been with my boyfriend for about 3 years. He's a momma boy. When i met him , we moved in with each other about six months after dating.I never met his mother and he told he didnt want me to meet her cause he doesn't bring females around her. Well around the second year i met her and she is very pushy , controlling and demanding. We bumped heads because im stubborn and she is upset cause she cant control me. I lost my job and my boyfriend had to move back in with her and i had to go stay with a friend. I'm trying to find a job and he has one. She BANNED me from her house cause i wont do what she wants me to do. My boyfriend cames to see me all the way in ct and he lives in ny.

What i want to know is what can i use him to break away from his mother and go get his own apartment and for her to mind her own business. I already had one of the aair do a honey jar on her like 2 weeks ago. I really dont see a change.

I want my boyfriend to want his own apartment and for him to kinda of stand up to his mother.

Unread post by **cabriellenil** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:20 pm

The honey jar is most likely going to take some time to work, so be patient. If you're in this relationship for the long haul you'll unfortunately have years and years to deal with this lady, an you'd have to revise your game plan as you go along.

For your man to 'grow a pair', I'd do a skull candle with Courage and High John products. I'd also be quite careful in phrasing my commands - not 'move away from your mum for me', but more along the line of 'be courageous and independent' coz that might go down more easily if you speak from his perspective.

You can also work with St Michael Archangel (if you're comfortable working with saints). He's good at getting men to 'man up' as well.

redheadwitch · Unread post by **redheadwitch** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:06 pm

I have been in an intimate relationship with a man on and off for a year and a half. We weren't together for a couple of months (during which time we both were in other relationships that didn't work out) but he came back to me a month or two ago. We've seeing each other once or twice a week since then. We see other people but not regularly, like with each other. I love being with him more than anyone else. I know he cares for me but I can't get him to admit it and commit to an exclusive relationship. We have many interests in common. Sexually, we are perfectly matched and it is still just as exciting after all this time as in the beginning. When he comes over, he stays and sleeps and cuddles with me after sex, but we seldom hang out outside of that. He works in a nightclub and doesn't get off work until early morning, and is used to just going here and there on his own. I would like to bring him to realize that he is searching for something he already has, a good woman who cares about him and is good to him and with whom he had a fabulous physical connection. He mainly resists because of the age difference between us (he's quite a bit younger than I am) but I am a better match than the younger women he keeps trying and failing to strike up a relationship with. He even told me that is the only reason why. I want to break down that resistance, which is the only thing keeping us from being in a relationship. Maybe it wouldn't last forever, but I would like to give it a shot.

So, I was thinking of making a doll baby and also perhaps doing another spell, such as Love Me. I have quite a bit of semen and also a few TINY hairs. (He is African-American and shaves his head plus has very little body hair, so there is not a lot of source for hair. LOL.) I also have a worn sock and a ring. What herbs would you suggest and would I be better doing Love Me or Come To Me? I'm not trying to force anything onto him, just give him a nudge in the right direction.

redheadwitch · Unread post by **redheadwitch** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:42 pm

27 views and no suggestions. Hopefully someone will have some ideas.

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:16 pm

Getting someone to commit is a rather tricky thing. Obviously there's a reason as to why he's not committing and you need to know what that is before you can really start any work. I would suggest getting a reading first to see what's going on with in his mind so you can figure out a plan of attack (so to speak).

While waiting for your reading, you can always start a honey jar to keep things sweet between you two.

redheadwitch · Unread post by **redheadwitch** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:23 am

As I said, the reason is the difference in ages. He's a Leo and is very concerned with what others think of him. I would like to know what herbs/oils anyone would suggest for this situation.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:33 am

Perhaps you can make a doll, and speak to it letting know that the age difference does not matter. In addition, you can do some crucible of courage and wisdom products to give him the courage and wisdom to not care what others think.

redheadwitch · Unread post by **redheadwitch** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:54 am

starsinthesky7 wrote:Perhaps you can make a doll, and speak to it letting know that the age difference does not matter. In addition, you can do some crucible of courage and wisdom products to give him the courage and wisdom to not care what others think.

Can you point me to these products? I'm getting ready to make an order. Thanks.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:03 am

http://www.luckymojo.com/crucibleofcourage.html

Since lucky mojo does not have a fixed crucible of courage candle already fixed...you need to go to the unlabelled glass encased vigil candle.
Click the purple one, and then you are going to state in the message area you want it dressed for courage.
http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandles.html

http://www.luckymojo.com/kingsolomonwisdom.html

For a doll, you want the red doll under the Doll, and poppet section in the link below. You should get the stuffed but unfixed one for $20 when you get it you are going to stuff it with the name paper, and a personal concern of the person.
http://www.luckymojo.com/lucky-mojo-inventory.html

In addition, I recommend that you go through the lucky mojo pages and product pages in the future to familarize yourself with the products, and various things. It can help you learn more about hoodoo, and the products lucky mojo has.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:04 am

In addition, we have spoken about this topic before to some degree. You can do a search and see what other products were suggested as well.

redheadwitch · Unread post by **redheadwitch** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:18 am

Thanks. I already have the doll in my order. I have actually perused the catalog to a great extent. I was actually interested in what particular herbs/oils would be best in this situation. Does the stuffed doll come with the herbs already in it?

When you say "we have spoken about this topic before to some degree", you don't mean me, do you? I just joined this forum.

Thanks again for your help.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:30 am

I wasn't trying to be mean or anything like that, but we have discussed similar experiences like this before, and so you should do a forum search to see what other products have been suggested. I said this because you can get other ideas based on similar experiences.

Here is a previous thread for example, and there may be others. Type in commit or commitment
what-supplies-help-a-boy-commit-to-a-re ... t4514.html

A doll that is "stuffed" but NOT fixed...has the herbs, but not the personal concerns or name paper. You will have to do that.

redheadwitch · Unread post by **redheadwitch** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:40 am

Thank you. I have a question about the doll. Is there an opening in the sewing to allow these items to be inserted? I've never done a doll before. I searched for information on how to create one but didn't find any instructions. Does the doll come with instructions? As I said, I believe I have plenty of personal concerns.

His birthday is coming up. I would like to give him something and somehow work the gift to be a charm to have him think of me when he holds it. I don't want to put oils on it because that would be obvious. Any suggestions?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:53 am

yes it comes with instructions. And if you do not want to use oils, which it wouldnt be obvious if you use a very small amount way before you gave it to him, then you can smoke the item with incense

redheadwitch · Unread post by **redheadwitch** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:15 am

Thanks!

brndette21 · Unread post by **brndette21** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:22 pm

Well, having a boyfriend who is a mama's boy is too hard but if your boyfriend could stand for himself and decide for himself much better. On the other hand, if your boyfriend really loved you, he could do everything, and he could talk to his mother. However, I admire you a lot, that you could strongly face your problem, good luck to you girl.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:36 pm

Yes, this subject has been discussed several times, normally it is a good ideal to work a honey jar on the mother and courage work on the boyfriend. In the meantime, did you say you were looking for a job? Do some steady work for yourself. Also have you had a reading on the situation?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:43 am

Just for the record, men who are good to their mothers make some of the best mates because they have a deep appreciation and respect of women in general. They also make excellent fathers. A honey jar sweetening a mother-in-law is much easier then causing a split between the two. The choice is yours.

Of course, there are instances where separation work is definately needed. Whatever you decide, good luck.

jcc78 · Unread post by **jcc78** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:22 am

Are there any products that can be used to help someone overcome emotional obstacles, mainly fear of being in a deeper relationship. I am going to burn a road opener candle soon, but am wondering if there is something else that could be effective.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:07 am

Cast Off Evil helps people get free of past habits, patterns, fears, etc. I would look into using that with some Healing.

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:08 am

This is just my humble advice on the matter, but there's often no such thing as being afraid of a deeper relationship if a person is truly in love with you. Many people just use "fear" as an excuse not to commit.

I would just work with Love Me, Stay With Me and Chuparrosa products to get the person to love you so much that the deeper relationship comes naturally as something they truly want to pursue. Good luck!

Unread post by **cabriellenil** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:31 am

In my experience - magical, that is, and with readings by professionals as well - there is such a thing as fear of being in a deeper relationship, mostly past issues and other emotional ones, and in some cases character 'flaws'. I've found it very helpful to get a good reading on the target to identify what exactly the issues are and if/how they could be resolved. There're cases where you might need a proper cleansing or Road Opener done on the target (to remove some deeply rooted negativity or blockage) before you can attempt further works for maximum impact.

I say so because I've had such readings done on both others and myself. A couple times I believed a negative tendency/fear of mine was caused by certain reasons, and so I should use this and that product. But once I got my rootworker to read me, the reasons turned out to be something quite different and so were the magical 'solutions'. A good reading like that could potentially save you a lot of time/resources on fixing things.

Unread post by **Hope** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:12 pm

I have been reading the forum for quite a while and gathered a lot of helpful information. My BF and I are in a happy relationship for a while and I want to ensure that it stays happy like this and develops further. Before I make my next LM order I want to make sure that I have all the right products that could come in handy in the future.
I was wondering which products should always be on hand to ensure a healthy long-lasting relationship that develops in all the right directions over time e.g moving in together, marriage, kids etc.

On my list are so far: the stay with me spell kit, the nation sack, and honey jar.
Which LM products would you recommend to have on hand or which one's do you guys have and use every now and then (or what do you do) to ensure that everything stays "healthy" and keep the "spark" alive?

Thanks

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:49 pm

You are on the right track, the Honey Jar can be a steady conjure to keep the relationship sweet...to increase your current love with further commitment, consider Fire of Love, Marriage, Stay At Home or Stay With Me.

Fire of Love http://www.luckymojo.com/fireoflove.html
Marriage http://www.luckymojo.com/marriage.html
Stay at Home http://www.luckymojo.com/stayathome.html
Stay with Me http://www.luckymojo.com/staywithme.html

The Nation Sack can be included with any or all of the spells listed... Good Luck.

Unread post by **Hope** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:01 pm

Thank you. I will definitely take a look at them.
I read about the Fire Of Love line earlier and was wondering if there is any ritual I can use the products with (I mean something more elaborate than the basic use of sachet powder, oils etc)? A few month ago, I did the love me spell kit. Is there a ritual similar like the love me spell kit for for Fire Of Love or Peaceful Home?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:07 pm

Lucky Mojo doesnt sell a Fire of Love Spell kit but you can incorporate it into one of the love spells for an extra zing...read this link: http://www.luckymojo.com/fireoflove.html
There is a candle spell also

There is a Peaceful Home Spell kit found here http://www.luckymojo.com/spell-peaceful-home.html

Unread post by **Hope** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:17 pm

Thanks. I read it

I am practicing hoodoo for some months now but I am still far from an "expert" (I am looking forward to take cats classes as soon as I save the money up) so I could need some advice regarding a spell layout. I would like to incorporate the Fire Of Love line with some of the mentioned products.

What do you think about taking a Fire Of Love Virgil Candle as the "mother candle" surrounded by helper candles in the appropriate colors e.g a white candle dressed with marriage oil (and some herbs like periwinkle) to awaken the desire in my partner to get married, pink candle dressed with stay with me and compelling herbs (so he stays with me and moves in), a red candle dressed with love me and come to me oil and herbs (so he loves me and comes to me), a blue candle with stay at home. I would surround the candles with Fire of Love, Marriage, Stay with me Sachet Powders and place my doll baby somewhere on the altar (so he feels the effects of the spell)

Helpful feedback would be verrry appreciated

maduro01 · Unread post by **maduro01** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:26 pm

For years, my friend has been wanting to have a romance with me, but he is really scared. He will come forward and then back off, because people don't want to mind their business. He pretends that he is attracted to women, but he really wants to spend time with me without having to worry about what everyone else will think or say.

What is the best spellwork for me to perform on him? Healing vigil candle? Stop gossip vigil candle? What can I do for him to get a breakthrough?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:46 pm

If he's afraid and it is keeping him from making the move then work with Crucible of Courage, Healing, and John the Conqueror products can all help him with the personal power to overcome being bound up in what everyone else thinks.

faith2008 · Unread post by **faith2008** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:25 pm

Hi everyone. There's a guy that I've been working on for a while now. I had a reading with Miss Cat and everything looks good. I've been working my honey jar and a moving lodestone spell with good results. We are a lot closer than we were. We spend a lot more time together but I just can't seem to get us past the friendship stage and I'm not sure about how to turn up the heat on my situation. Miss Cat suggested feeding him my MB which I have tried but every time I cook something his kids eat it all before he gets a chance, lol. Gotta love kids, hahaha. I'll keep trying on that one though. I'm going to take a break for a few weeks while I work on some other issues and just work my honey jar and give the lodestone spell some more time to manifest. In the meantime though, I thought I would start getting an order ready for LM. Not sure what would be the best product line to use though. And also would St Martha be good to work with in the situation? I've read through all the threads on her and most of it just purtains to getting back a lost love/spouse, so I wasn't sure about my situation.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and your suggestions are greatly appreciated. And if you don't mind suggestions on how to use what I order would be great. Thanks again!

PS - I'm really shy so I need him to make the first move, lol.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:35 pm

Saint Martha can help on this but I would suggest you either ask her or get a reading on this before attempting. Another thing is if cat recommended feeding him your menses, I would suggest that you find a way. There are all kinds of sneaky tricks that you can control and ensure that he gets the stuff. Bring him a Coke, Tea, cook some brownies...etc..etc...etc... I mean it tops everything.

faith2008 · Unread post by **faith2008** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:53 pm

jwmcclin wrote:Saint Martha can help on this but I would suggest you either ask her or get a reading on this before attempting. Another thing is if cat recommended feeding him your menses, I would suggest that you find a way. There are all kinds of sneaky tricks that you can control and ensure that he gets the stuff. Bring him a Coke, Tea, cook some brownies...etc..etc...etc... I mean it tops everything.

Oh believe me I'm trying, lol. I'm competing with his two kids and his best friend's two kids though and three of them are boys. He's a good dad too and always makes sure the kids eat before he does and it never seems to matter how much I cook there's never anything left, lol. They are like little vaccuum cleaners! As for the drinks anytime we get together is usually a social thing and he's always drinking beer. I'm always on the lookout to get my hands on it but no such luck so far. I'm not giving up though. It'll happen, just have to be patient. Plus if I could turn the heat up then hopefully I would have more opportunities to be alone with him and therefore more opportunites to slip my MB into something.

y2241 · Unread post by **y2241** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:48 pm

hello everyone, i would like you ask for your advice on my case.

i met my target roughly a month ago, since he calls me everyday and we see each other a few times a week but acted nothing more than just friends. then i set a love me candle, the week after, he would hold my hands and hug me when he's drunk (i guess) and he kissed my cheek once. but afterward he just didn't call for a few days and showed once then disappeared for a few days again.

so i went to get a reading, and it said he is uncertain about us, feels that he's not good enough for me and he has a new target.

that night i set a come to me candle, then we called and we met up once. then he just disappeared for the remaining week and did not follow up plans which we discussed the previous week.

so i lighted a red candle dressed with follow me boy oil last night.

i'm really confused, am i doing too much work? or there's just too much happening at the same time?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:23 pm

So you've managed to bring him closer, but want to take things past the frienship level, then its time to shake things up and add *sexual* heat, heat generated from passion. There are many ways you can do this, but the following two may work out well in your situation.

First, complete your moving Lodestone spell then wash them off and rebaptize them and set them across from one another. Dress them with a bit of Fires of Love, then dab them with MB or sexual fluids that you gathered while fantasizing about him. Feed them magnetic sand and work them over a course of 7 days as you move them closer and closer together. This works the relationship on a different level. You brought him closer the first time you did the moving Lodestone spell, now you are moving him sexually closer to you.

Burn a red penis candle on his picture dressed with Follow Me Boy, Fires of Love, and Kiss Me Now. Include things like Cherry Bark, Cardamon, Ginger, Juniper Berries, and Rose Petals. Burn this candle along with the Lodestones so that you are working by its light. I would place this candle in a triangle with the Lodestones forming the base.

The second method would be making a dollie of him aimed at increasing heat and passion. Set the dollie next to you as you masturbate, tease it with sexual fluids, keep him in your undies, and do other acts aimed at getting him passionate for you.

I find both of these methods work really well to get a guy to start seeing you in a more passionate light.

You can also try a moving candle spell with genital candles.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:38 pm

Not necessarily, but you need to focus on the reason why he's staying away: his uncertainly. You can do this by helping him focus on his interest in you. If you've already had a reading, i would discuss with your reader (have a consultation) on what specific spells and acts you can do to work on this person.

faith2008 · Unread post by **faith2008** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:36 am

Thank you CM! I'll start getting my order ready, there's a few things I'm missing. I appreciate your knowledge and your time very much.

Bella_Dellanotte · Unread post by **Bella_Dellanotte** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:27 am

seems somewhat similar to what's been going on with me. as emotions get involved the guys freak out and don't know how to handle it so they freeze up and back away. honestly it's ridiculous, the amount of work I've put into my own target. so in these cases working on the emotions isn't enough, there needs to be some sort of inspiration to take action. us girls sometimes forget that most guys are not like us in the sense that we will more easily follow our emotions. I personally think guys are more complicated xD

route95 · Unread post by **route95** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:01 pm

Bella_Dellanotte wrote:us girls sometimes forget that most guys are not like us in the sense that we will more easily follow our emotions. I personally think guys are more complicated xD

I think it's more of an individual basis. Not all women are the same and not all men are the same when it comes to thinks. All genders have emotions. I think it is careful not to fall into the trap of "men are like this" and "women are like that" that society has made.

If you want to talk about the guys you've dealt with in your experience that's fine. Sorry, I just get annoyed when I feel people are unnecessarily categorizing whole groups into tiny boxes.

Bella_Dellanotte · Unread post by **Bella_Dellanotte** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:50 am

please show me where I said ALL men are like this, and ALL women are like that. I said MANY, and that happens to be my opinion and experience, there is generally a tendency for women to more readily go with their emotions. and guys have a tendency to deal with emotions differently than girls. there are gender differences in psychology. but it's not a definite thing that applies to everyone and I never said it was.

sorry but I get annoyed when people put words in my mouth and try to pick at my posts, and twist my words. In any case, comments like that really don't have anything to do with the original post.

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:07 am

If you really like a guy - this guy, another guy, whatever guy - and are willing to put some effort into it, I say do a honey jar. It take a while - it's long term work - but it wil sweeten someone to you and that helps get over the fear and intial ill at ease feelings SOME people have. Also, you can adjust the candles on a honey jar accordingly. Dress them with Follow Me Boy, Kiss Me Now, whatever you think you need.

Best of luck

route95 · Unread post by **route95** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:26 am

Bella_Dellanotte wrote:please show me where I said ALL men are like this, and ALL women are like that.

you said "us girls". It seemed like when you said "us girls" it was all inclusive. That''s how I understand the word "us" to be. I didn't know I was supposed to understand that it would just be a PART of females.

Not putting words in your mouth. We are online and that's just how I was taught to understand the word "us" apologies if you got upset. I don't think nitpicking about your words is really helpful to your situation.

y2241 · Unread post by **y2241** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:35 pm

hey... thanks everyone for your advices they mean alot to me...
my target and i are more like friends with benefits but i don't feel that he likes me enough, it's more like he's taking me for granted...
i'll start a honey jar this weekend... but i'm not sure exactly how i should do my honey jar, i only have follow me boy, love me and look me over oil, should i use all 2 of them?

Darth Rosa · Unread post by **Darth Rosa** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:49 pm

Hi y2241,

It sounds like this guy might be an individual, who enjoys "the chase" and any girl who plays hard to get. I would drop the idea that he doesn't think he's good enough for you. I also think he is unsure about being in a relationship (because that actually requires work). If you've already given him "the cookie", then it could be why he's on to another target. Some men are inclined to go for sex more than anything else, and once they get what they want, they lose interest very quickly. Kinda like getting a toy, playing with it, and then forgetting it. Your magick, would have to create a reason, as to why you are the only one he wants to be with. The honey jar, is a good start, and I would try to get his personal concerns, work it at least 3 times a week, and be patient and faithful with it. Try to find out what he is looking for in a girl, and emulate those characteristics within you. Does he like strong, tough, independant women? Be that way! Does he like vixens? Go for it. Does he like pretty girls? Be that way too! Does he like motherly types? Be that way! Does he like girls to be sweethearts or comedians? Find out.

-StarLover

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:57 pm

I'm all for the process of attraction and seduction, but be careful not to change yourself to fit the whims of some guy.

If you have contact with your reader speak about specific conjures you can work that will help you in your situation. Since they have read for you they know which approach is best for you.

Personally, when target's play the hot and cold game, or want to be chased I start working with Follow Me Boy to bring them chasing after my client instead.

y2241 · Unread post by **y2241** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:15 am

thank you sooo much for all the help!! =D
i'll start a honey jar tonight with his hair and personal fluid, is that a good choice? should i add my hair as well?
i sprinkled some follow me boy powder in his shoes, how else could i use the powder?

Elveta · Unread post by **Elveta** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:49 pm

[quote="ConjureMan"]I'm all for the process of attraction and seduction, but be careful not to change yourself to fit the whims of some guy...."

You just took the words right out of my mouth. It would be miserable to have to play act all the time and be someone you are not.

SweetZucker · Unread post by **SweetZucker** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:40 am

Thank you.

y2241 · Unread post by **y2241** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:51 pm

hey... thanks everyone for your support...
i started a honey jar with his hair and personal fluid last week however i just found out a few hours ago that he has been in a relationship with a girl for a few months and has been hiding that from me while building a relationship (or a fling from his point of view?) with me...
i don't know what to do now...

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:25 pm

Ouch! Seems like he's been cheating on both of you. In your original post you said that your reading revealed him having a new target, so that must be it. There are several things you could do now, but the best one would be to stop seeing him and Cut & Clear. It really depends on what you want.