Deities, Angels, Spirits, Saints: Questions and Answers

[Social1978]

Thanks that's good advice. Does that mean that I should stop working on my spellwork? She suggested a Honey Jar as well. I plan to finish my Novena with the IS and Holy Death. I will be done Wednesday. She did suggest me sweeten the pot and doing the Honey Jar so I continue with that after I finish my Novena's. She also said I will be hearing from him in the next couple of weeks. He isn't gone for good. Very relieved to hear this. I didn't realize that so much energy went into this. I do find it extremely intriquing though and if I actually do become victorious then you won't be able to tear me away from it. However I would probably have to do it in secret as I come from a very religious family that would label me as a witch if they knew what I was doing.

[Social1978]

Also, today is his birthday. I didn't contact him as I thought this would mess up the IS spell, he also isn't speaking to me so I guess this is okay right?

[route95]

Thanks that's good advice. Does that mean that I should stop working on my spellwork?

I think doing the honey jar as you finish up your novenas would be good. Honey jars are effective and take a lot less energy... especially after doing two such hardcore spells I'm sure the break will be appreciated!

And I wouldn't worry about the bday thing. You were right that contacting him would mess up the Intranquility Spell. And I'm sure the fact you didn't send him wishes could be just another thing to eat away at him as he pines for you.

[Social1978]

Thanks route 95. Im not sure he even cares cause when he left the ticket on my car it was just that a ticket not a note or anything. Apparently has nothing to say even written. However it isn't like me not to contact him. I tried for two weeks after we broke up with no response, gave up and started my spell work. I haven't had anymore signs today though and I don't think he is thinking of me today since it's the big 30! I'm sure he off celebrating with his new girl. Hopefully the spell will work to bring him back and get rid of her! This would be awesome!

[starsinthesky7]

I disagree; honey jars are effective, and take just as much energy as anything else. Now the set up of it may not be difficult, but you should be putting in just as much focus and energy as any other amount of work.

@social1978...you are overthinking, and constantly looking for signs, and by not seeing any signs you feel like he is not thinking of you. Also, with the talk about you think he is with his new girl and so on and sonThis kind of talk is setting yourself up for failure. Even though your reading indicates that your spell work means you will have victory, that does not mean you can do things that are going to harm your work. You need to maintain focus, and patience. I advise that you find something to help you occupy your time, and keep your mind from working to be so negative, and constantly think about your work. I think you need to keep working, and try not to be so negative about what is going on.

Furthermore was your reading with a rootworker that does Hoodoo? I feel like the Santisma Muerte work is unnecessary,and I hope you did your research on her to how to keep her pleased. She is a demanding and sometimes jealous so hopefuly you have done your research when it comes to thing.

[Social1978]

Yes my reader was a Hoodoo worker from AIRR. I know I am overthinking. I will try to stop. I just haven't seen any signs and everyday I wake up I have a different feeling. Yesterday I just knew he was coming back. Today I am woke up with a feeling of defeat, I however can't ever remember my dreams this month unless he is in them which has only happened twice. I guess Im afraid if I don't stay focused on my work, it won't work. I am putting so much energy into this. I slept really well last night though thank God as I had not been sleeping well a all. Ithink I am just really weirded out by the fact that I have a room in my house dedicated to Holy Death. Anyway, it kind of creeps me out. She is demanding and I have been giving her all kinds of gifts, whatever I feel she asked for and yes I have done my research. I didn't just jump into this although it seems like that. I have spent endless hours trying to make sure I do everything correctly. Anway I do appreciate the advice.

[route95]

I disagree honey jars are effective, and take just as much energy as anything else. Now the set up of it may not be difficult, but you should be putting in just as much focus and energy as any other amount of work.

whoops i stand corrected. bad wording on my part.

[starsinthesky7]

So why did you work with Holy Death if it creeps you out? Seriously just because someone recommends them to you doesn't mean you have to work with them. In addition, I feel you need to write down all your doubts on a piece of paper, and burn them to ashes in a pot or some kind of container that will not melt. Ask that your doubts burn in the fire. Take the ashes, and dispose of them in a crossroads FAR from your open, or in running water like a river. In addition, you need to take a tranquility bath, and probably do some spiritual cleansing.

[Social1978]

I did it because it seemed like it would be the most effective for my situation. I like the doubts idea. I guess I am just getting very frustrated with all of this. It should have never happened and it annoys me to think he is having a great time with someone else while I am doing all of this spellwork because of his mama and her meddling in our situation. I can't even think about it because every time I do I become livid. I will have to pray because I am really hoping that what I am doing now works. If it doesn't then I will be very angry and become vengeful of which I don't want to do. I just want things the way the were before she arrived. I don't want to have to resort to being vengeful towards her and him if he doesn't come back, but I know that is what will happen because I won't just let this ride. It is just too deceitful for me.

[starsinthesky7]

Umm...this is a classic case of reaching for the sledge hammer for a situation. I mean this is not going to fix all your situation if you have a meddling mother. Its his mother she is going to be in his life forever so you might as well deal with it and get her to like you.

[Social1978]

I didn't reach for the sledge hammer. I just knew that my situation would overly difficult.I mean it is obvious that it is as I have been at this for a week now and no movement at all. So I heard she could get the job done as time is truly of the essence. The closer he get s to this new woman that less opportunity I will have to reconcile with him.

[starsinthesky7]

Only a week? Yeah you definitely arent giving this enough time to work. This is not TV magic, and you probably are not going to get instant gratification so you might be thoroughly disappointed whether you work with Santisma Muerte, a few candles or anything else. I am not sure which AIRR rootworker you are working with, but I doubt they would tell you to continue to work with Holy death for this situation. Working with holy death is not going to provide a quick fix that you are looking for. There are several issues to this situation that you are not address, which are pertinent to getting some movement...if in fact this situation can even be helped. In any case, I would go back to the drawing board, and get a consultation on what rootwork needs to be done, and see if you can actually get movement from this situation.

[starsinthesky7]

Not to mention, if you believe she is doing black magic or whatever on your target, then you have not even tried to uncross him, or find out if he is protected. If he is protected, then the holy death might not even work either. There are WAY more effective methods to this situation rather than working with holy death. Yes, it will take more work, but it would probably be more effective that working with her since she is pretty demanding.

[Social1978]

I already had a reading which from and AIRR rootworker. I was advised to do a Honey Jar. I had the reading after I started this work so I plan on finishing it anyway and going through with the honey jar afterwards. I was told in my reading that in the end I would be victorious. That he still loves and cares for me and respects me and that the honey jar should sweeten him up. I have done all that. Anyway like I said I will start the Honey Jar on Wednesday when I am done with the Novena. I went for the big boys first because I knew I had a difficult situation, so I wasn't planning or wasting my time with the small stuff as I wanted faster results if I could get them.

[starsinthesky7]

I think this is a misconception that many people in this situation such as these make. I think people figure the "smaller" things will not yield "faster" results as opposed to the "bigger things". In my eyes, anything can be forceful, effective, and yield fast results. I mean I can light a free standing candle, and it can be just as effective (if I work with the right ingredients & given the circumstances) than if I work with the intranquil spirit, santisma muerte, or love me or die. I think that some people just do not even want to bother with the "smaller thing" but would rather do some risky work or not understand exactly what they are doing. Funny thing is many people that end up doing these things end up making their situation worse, and have to fall back on the "smaller" things anyways.

In this situation, he may love and care for you, but your lack of patience, and overthinking is slowing going to chip away at the victory you believe you are going to get. Not to mention if the mother is apart of the issue as much as you say, and sway him, then it is probably going to take more than a sweet jar to get what you want, and have her like you. Not to mention if he is seeing someone else, that needs to be taken care of too. Just because you torture someone does not always mean they are going to come back with other things that need to be addressed.

Sweet jars can be extremely effective, and sometimes they can take some slow, but steady time to work. So they are not a waste of time, if you work them, and actually work on the issues that are present in the situation.

In any case, good luck.

[Social1978]

Thanks for the advice Stars. I know my work is not finished. I have a ton of things to do. However I am torturing him (if its even working) and I plan to finish it. It's already done. It might not even be taking effect as I once again haven't seen any results. Anyway, when this is done as working with both of these is too exhausting, I will work on some other stuff, uncrossing, reversal, reconcilation. Those types of things until he is back for good. I can't help overthinking. It is going to happen. I don't really see how it can affect my work though. Anyway well see.

[starsinthesky7]

I just summed it up how it can affect your work. Your constant doubting, saying things "if it might work" or "if its even working" is going to slowing chip away at the energy your spell work. That is HOW its going to affect your work.

There is sort of a method to madness of approaching a scenario such as this one when you believe someone has crossed your target or is influencing your target, then THAT needs to be addressed. Therefore, that needs to be done in order to BRING him back. That is what is HINDERING your work, which is the point I am trying to make. You need to have your AIRR rootworker see if she has even crossed him. If she has then you need to do some uncrossing work, and some reversing work. If she is the reason why he is not coming to you, and she is standing in your way, then it would be advisable to do something to help the situation.

You are working backwards here to a certain degree. I strongly advise that you get an AIRR consultation to advise you on what exact steps you need to do, and to address important issues that are going to be crucial in order for you to get what you want (if it can be helped). This recommended that is...if you have not done so already. A simple 10 minute reading or consultation is not going to do it.

Not to mention it has ONLY been a week. My goodness....a week is not enough time to say whether or not a spell has failed or not. Yes it is hard to completely stop overthinking, but keep it up your lack of doubt will kill your work. Besides not picking the right spell, or products...i would say overthinking and doubt is a big killer of work.

[faith2008]

Social1978, Stars isn't trying to discourage you she's just telling you like it is. Take it from someone who has been in your situation and did just about the same thing you did....short Saint Muerte. I didn't know about her then. I wish I had known about this board then but even then I probably would have been stubborn and done it anyhow, who knows. Looking back though I can see what a mistake it was. Yes, he came back but he wasn't the same. He was mean and nasty. He definitely wasn't the same person I fell in love with. And it also took a few months before he did come back and during that time we fought like hell! Not surprising since he had a demon from hell torturing him. The Intranquil Spirit will bring them back IF he chooses to, but you are not going to have to carefree love that you once had and there is no guarantee that they will stay. I used the Intranquil Spirit twice and both times he came back but eventually things fell apart again and I don't think any means of magic that I use now could ever fix things. The damage is done. We are getting a divorce now. Could I use the Intranquil Spirit to once again bring him home...yes. I have no doubts about that. Will I? NO! Why....because I want a love that is pure. One that I don't have to constantly work for the rest of my life. I would rather be alone than with someone that I'm not sure really loves me or is just there because a demon brought them back to me. That's not love...

Listen to Stars. She is very wise in what she says. I wish I had known her then and maybe I wouldn't be getting divorced now.

[Social1978]

Thanks for al the advice but I highly doubt that will happen in my situation. It just seem very likely that he will come back angry seeing that we are not married. I feel if he is angry he probably won't come back. I am doing this because I want him too. I feel my work is more than justified as I only know what I have been through, but in going through it I can certainly say that it wasn't fair by any means, especially the way he left. So he needs to be tortured to come back then he definitely deserves it and he also more than stubborn. I will do all I can to work on other spell work to rekindle the damage that was done by his mother and pray that it works. If it all fails then at least I know I tried, but it still won't mean that I won't be doing any jinxing spells if all of this does spell. So I AM trying to be positive, but I am human as well so I find this tough. I will just have to fight through it.

[Devi Spring]

Social, you may wish to review this statement by Miss Cat herself on the page about the Intranquil Spirit http://www.luckymojo.com/intranquility.html:

Consider, though, when you do this, that if the person does come back, the two of you will not have the same kind of happy, innocent, loving relationship you did at the beginning.

I also find it interesting that people come here and start threads on the Intranquility Spirit and ask for advice, and then basically ignore everyone's advice and even say why the experience that others have had simply will not happen to them.

It's obvious that you've done what you've done, which is fine and your business. But I don't quite understand if you are going to discount all the advice you're given, why you asked for the input in the first place? It seems that you're looking for people to tell you what you want to hear, and anything else you will simply ignore.

Just something to consider. What exactly are you looking for from the board members here?

[thelightfantastic]

Devi makes an excellent point. I think the folks who come here asking about the IS and end up discounting what everyone says aren't actually looking for advice - they're looking for reassurance and confirmation that they're doing the right thing. When that reassurance and confirmation doesn't come, the defenses go up and the discounting of advice begins.

I fully understand why people who are new to hoodoo are sometimes attracted to the IS. It seems like the perfect solution to the problem. Your ex feels as miserable as you feel and they come crawling back because they're miserable without you. It seems like an even better solution when you've been summarily dumped for seemingly no reason and really want to make the person suffer because they hurt you. On paper it sounds like a dream spell that covers it all, but the IS isn't that cut and dry which is what is being stressed throughout this thread. No amount of "my situation/target is different" or "that won't happen to me because...." rationalization is not going to make the IS work in a different manner for you. It's a spirit from hell - there's no negotiating with it. If that were the case, we'd all be recommending the spell to everyone who was looking to reconcile with an ex.

Like Devi said in the end it's your business what you do as it's your life, but arguing with people who have actually been there and done that seems pointless. If you just want general opinions - ask for that and that alone. Don't ask for advice or help and then ignore it because it doesn't jive with what you want to hear.

[faith2008]

Thanks for al the advice but I highly doubt that will happen in my situation. It just seem very likely that he will come back angry seeing that we are now married. I feel if he is angry he probably won't come back. I am doing this because I want him too. I feel my work is more than justified as I only know what I have been through, but in going through it I can certainly say that it wasn't fair by any means, especially the way he left. So he needs to be tortured to come back then he definitely deserves it and he also more than stubborn. I will do all I can to work on other spell work to rekindle the damage that was done by his mother and pray that it works. If it all fails then at least I know I tried, but it still won't mean that I won't be doing any jinxing spells if all of this does spell. So I AM trying to be positive, but I am human as well so I find this tough. I will just have to fight through it.

Oh, he will come back and he will be angry. When my husband and I reconciled the last time, we were at each others throats, literally, right up until we ended up in bed. Hense, the spell was complete. The Intranquil Spirit had done what he has promised, he drug him back kicking and screaming. Being married doesn't have anything to do with it. I could unleash the Intanquil Spirit on my ex-boyfriend if I was so inclined. It's not going to make any difference. You need to understand that you have unleashed a DEMON FROM HELL to torture this man until he returns to you. He's not coming back because you two have sat down and worked through your problems. He's coming back because you have given him no other option if he ever wants to have peace. The problem is once he's back the Intranquil Spirit is done and trust me things will NEVER be the same between the two of you again. Basically what you've done is written a death sentence on whatever relationship you could have had. But I guess everyone has to learn the hard way at least once or twice.

[route95]

Basically what you've done is written a death sentence on whatever relationship you could have had. But I guess everyone has to learn the hard way at least once or twice.

Yikes. This kinda terrifies me. Is this basically saying that anyone that asks the Intranquility Spirit for help will automatically have a doomed relationship? I've read that if you accompany it with reconciliation geared spells and actually work on the relationship once the other returns then there is a chance of having things okay.

I guess I am a little worried. Telling someone who has ALREADY cast the spell that basically things are doomed because of it. =X it seems a bit...off... for lack of a better word I can't put my finger on.

[Turnsteel]

Basically what you've done is written a death sentence on whatever relationship you could have had. But I guess everyone has to learn the hard way at least once or twice.

I understand that people have had bad experiences with the Intranquil spirit but this is verging on sensationalism. The Intranquil spirit is not always going to forever and always screw up everything, its not nice, not usually a good idea, but you do not need to respond with such vitriol at a persons choice to use it.

[faith2008]

I understand that people have had bad experiences with the Intranquil spirit but this is verging on sensationalism. The Intranquil spirit is not always going to forever and always screw up everything, its not nice, not usually a good idea, but you do not need to respond with such vitriol at a persons choice to use it.

I apologize for my lack of wording. I should have went on to say that without the proper work being done to reconcile the differences that were the cause of the split to begin with. I was speaking from my own experience with the Intanquil Spirit and my lack of knowledge then as to what could happen if you unprepared and uneducated like I was.

[route95]

Ah, okay. Thank you for sharing your experience. I think it's invaluable to have someone be able to talk to those considering it or going through it to know what could happen. It is hard to think clearly when one has been enraged and feel like they've been unfairly treated.

anyways, thanks again for the words faith2008 <3

[starsinthesky7]

I agree with Devi...why come to a board, and ask for advice, and discount EVERYTHING that has been told to you. I mean no disrespect if you do not like what we are saying then simply do what you have to do and keep it moving. I mean we have talked about the IS for quite a few posts. Same thing over and over again. I am not here to discourage anyone from using it, but you must work with it wisely.

As for the death sentence to the relationship comment....thats a bad choice or words. Thats particular to YOUR situation. Again, people have their misconception of the intranquil spirit, and people that do not know how to work with tend to draw up all this fear, and dispel it on to others. If you want to work with the intranquil spirit, get a professional to do it, or at least get a consultation to see if its right for situation. In any case, the intranquil spirit is a dead horse we have talked about to death.

[Social1978]

I agree with Devi...why come to a board, and ask for advice, and discount EVERYTHING that has been told to you. I mean no disrespect if you do not like what we are saying then simply do what you have to do and keep it moving. I mean we have talked about the IS for quite a few posts. Same thing over and over again. I am not here to discourage anyone from using it, but you must work with it wisely.

@Stars your candor is appreciated but it is bit much. I will not "keep it moving". I am also not discounting what anyone is saying to me. The point of me posting this was to ask what the repercussions of me combining these two spells might be. It really wasn't to ask if I should do it because it was already done. That is a mute point. I appreciate all of the advice and input that I have received as long as it isn't given in a condescending tone. Even though I am new to this I am also entitled as a living and breathing human being to voice my own opinions about how I feel my situation may be affected because only I truly am in it and have dealt with this person. The point of me posting this was to get feedback on how others have been affected in a situation like this and with all the feedback I have been given I can now filter it and make decisions or how I feel I should proceed. So in no way am I discounting something just because I have a different opinion. All feedback is appreciated as long as its in the right tone. Just because someone is new to this doesn't mean that feedback should be given to them as if they are a complete imbecile for having done something. Everybody has to start somewhere.

@Faith I thank you for telling me what happened in your situation. I am actually hoping that this happens for me as I do want him to come running back either happy or angry. Right now both would be welcomed as I still haven't seen or heard from him in a month and he is truly missed. So we will see what happens. If I am blessed to have him come back I will then begin some serious reconciliation work to make sure I can keep him this time. I am praying that this all works out for the best. I also have another reading scheduled this week to see how things are progressing.

[route95]

Good luck with your upcoming reading.

This is not a particular defense for anyone, but I just want to say that since this is the internet and we cant hear people's tones or see their demeanor, we might misinterpret their true "tone" that goes with their messages. I've read through a lot of this forum and I definitely see that the regulars give advice from the bottom of their hearts. They don't talk down to newbies (if they did, theyd be talking down to 99% of this forum). They are genuinely wanting to help you out and effectively get what you're aiming for.

Just wanted to play a bit of devil's advocate. I'm sorry you feel like people are talking down to you. I know I've never intended to do that and I am sorry if I came across that way.

[Social1978]

I do not feel that "everyone" was talking down to me Route95. Like I said all of the feedback is appreciated. I have just been a little annoyed with my situation as I really am upset that its happening and I am just trying to be positive however the negative tones in feedback from some is counter productive in me doing this. I do however want to reach my goal and am very eager to learn more about Hoodoo as I find it to be fascinating.

[route95]

I do not feel that "everyone" was talking down to me Route95.

I understand. Just wanted to apologize if I was one of those people.

[starsinthesky7]

I am not talking down to you. Its not that serious for me to talk down to you in this forum. And my post was not purely directed at you either, and I am not saying that anyone that is coming here is an "imbecile". I think you have misinterpreted the negative undertones, and whatever else. I am not trying to be negative...but there are something that you are not addressing and that will not be addressed through working with the intranquil spirit and santisma muerte. When I point these things out, they are not purely just for you, but for the many that are going to read this long after it has been discussed on this board. In any case, you have every right to be upset about your situation, and have been given advice on what to do to help it. There are some steps that are necessary for your to do for you to reach your goal.

[Social1978]

I am beginning to think that after I got my signs last Wednesday, when he stopped by and left the letter on my car, I should have called him or sent a text message. However I didn't because he hasn't been responding to these. His 30th birthday was also on Saturday and I didn't call or text for fear of being rejected. Is this messing up my work that I won't contact him? I was under the impression that the work is supposed to bring him to me and not in some sleuth manner where I have contact but not really (the letter didn't say anything) I mean and actual call or letter or something. I am finished with my Intranquil Spirit Candle now. Should I begin reconciliation work? Maybe working the honey jar and getting a lover return to me kit. Not really sure what to do and I am concerned that since it has been a month things are looking not looking good so far.

[faith2008]

I am beginning to think that after I got my signs last Wednesday, when he stopped by and left the letter on my car, I should have called him or sent a text message. However I didn't because he hasn't been responding to these. His 30th birthday was also on Saturday and I didn't call or text for fear of being rejected. Is this messing up my work that I won't contact him? I was under the impression that the work is supposed to bring him to me and not in some sleuth manner where I have contact but not really (the letter didn't say anything) I mean and actual call or letter or something. I am finished with my Intranquil Spirit Candle now. Should I begin reconciliation work? Maybe working the honey jar and getting a lover return to me kit. Not really sure what to do and I am concerned that since it has been a month things are looking not looking good so far.

It's only been a week. You have to give the spell time to manifest. This was one of the hardest lessons for me...patience. Have faith that you spells are working. Don't over think things. The whole point of the Intanquil Spirit is to make them miserable. Don't contact him. Wait for him to come to you. Watch and wait for signs for three days, but if there are none, then look for movement for three weeks, and if you don't get results in three months, then you can be pretty sure that the spell has not worked for you. That isn't set in stone though. It could take longer or maybe not as long.

A honey jar to help sweeten him to you sounds like a good idea. Maybe though, you should take some time to work on healing yourself. You have been through a lot and all of us can benefit from some time spent on ourselves. Spells work the best when you let them go. Find something else to occupy your time and your mind. I know easier said that done, lol. It will help though.

Good luck.

[Social1978]

Thanks so much Faith for your encouragement. I have been literally sitting her going crazy. i never could have imagined I would have missed this man so much. It's very frustrating when you don't have control over the situation. I have dated plenty of guys before and found it easy to just let go but for some reason I just can't seem to shake him. I am just hoping that one day I get a phone call or he just shows up and I think I am more than anxious now as I will be moving out of town next week. This is very frustrating anyway I did just start school so it is definitely keeping me preoccupied along with moving so I will focus on these things for now cause next week I have a very long drive ahead of me.

[faith2008]

Congratulations on school! I've been where you are now and I know all too well the feelings that you are feeling. You've cast your spells, decide on what days you will work your honey jar and other than that let it go for a while and let the magic manifest. The more you think about it the longer it takes for the magic to work. Whether you mean to or not you put little shreads of doubt in your work and like Stars said, it starts eating away at it. When you do think of him, just smile and KNOW he is miserable. If he's stubborn like you say he is it can take a while. Mine was stubborn too and both times it took months but I was lucky enough to still be in the same house as him and could see his torment. So trust me it's working. Concentrate on yourself now and making the changes in yourself that will make you happy.

Good luck on your move and school. I'll say a prayer for you.

[catherineyronwode]

Just a note here from an exerienced practitioners --

Santisima Muerte is much loved by many (not within in the hoodoo tradition, but within Mexican folk-Catholicism). She has been descried to me as The Virgin Mary's Sister and The Virgin Mary as a Skeleton -- and, in truth, she is a othering figure, especially to women.

But the Intranquil Spirit is neither loved nor venerated. In fact, she, he, or it (i would suppose that there are many such restless, uncontented, doomed spirits) is requested for help in dirty deeds, but there are no shrines to the Intranquil Spirit as there are to Holy Death. She, or he, or it, is "used" for a job of work and then abandoned.

Be aware of the differences. The Intranquil Spirit can never be appeased. Caution is advised.

[Social1978]

A friend of mine said she saw him at a bar the other day and he looked absolutely miserable and exhausted. She didn't even know him very well but said he looked to be a very unhappy man. I don't know if this has to do with my spellwork or not. Anyway I am also wondering if I should continue lighting the candle. I finished two candles already. Do I continue every night or just let the work do what its supposed to do.

[starsinthesky7]

You need to get a reading to help guide you on what you need to do next. If you are doing the IS, you do not need to light a candle every single night. And you need to see if it is having an effect on him, and what you can do further.

[sunflower73]

Today I had an IS andle burned for me from a professional at the shop. As I don;t look for signs and totally forgot about until a few minutes ago while I was outside.. The one sign that stuck out to me was this..

I was sitting in my truck with hood up in the back smoking a cig.. I heard breathing heavy breathing and i tilt my head over and 3 pit bulls came charging fast.(Now mind you while she was dong my candle i read Psalms 41,23,51 and felt chills come over me that is when I new I was protected.) the dogs slowed down but not enough and stopped on the corner of my house sniffed and ran past my house.. I can tell you this in my neighborhood they is very strange to see 3 dogs run in a pack let along pit ulls with out seeing or looking for the person they smelled. Maybe this is the wrong forum I dont know ut I let a profesional do teh wor for me and, pray and mean it, then go about your faily routine.

[Tammyw]

I am desperately working on saving my marriage. The divorce trial is in 3 weeks. And my husband and I haven't spoke now in 2 weeks. Before that we spoke almost everyday. Can I petition St. Jude and St. Expedite in my situation?

[Devi Spring]

There's no reason why you can't try. Just make sure to pay them if they come through for you.

[Miss Tammie Lee]

Devi as always gives outstanding advice!
Sometimes you might find that they contact you. The payment is particularly important and every single day give thanks and praise especially on "Their Feast Day".

[sunflower73]

just a little update, i beleive i protected myself well as I have not had to effects on my behalf. yesterday he contacted me but i didnt have my phone on me. then at 3:30am he called and 3:33 but i was asleep. I assuming it is working. ut i havet heard from him today which was our court day for child support. So I am hoping it is still working on him this time i will be ready to answer the phone.
so if i answer the phone does it stop working or it will keep working when he sees me which wont be until another 3 weeks for his son birthday.
also i recieved my goodies- and i started the command candle because to was power day. I hope I did it right as into lightening it today. I also have a come to me candle which i beleive it should be lit on friday.

[faith2008]

I'd say it's working. Talking to you might give him a "brief" bit of relief but no the spell will not be done. He won't be able to rest until " he falls at your feet" and you're back together. Just remember, make him come to you. The rest sounds right, just remember don't over do it. You don't want to hit them with too much magic and overload them. It's going to take time. Be patient and good luck.

[sunflower73]

thank you faith for your responce so i will hold off on the come to me candle for now

I'd say it's working. Talking to you might give him a "brief" bit of relief but no the spell will not be done. He won't be able to rest until " he falls at your feet" and you're back together. Just remember, make him come to you. The rest sounds right, just remember don't over do it. You don't want to hit them with too much magic and overload them. It's going to take time. Be patient and good luck.

[starsinthesky7]

I would recommend that you get a reading. It will give you a better assessment if these are the best saints to work with for your situation. I mean you can work with st. anthony for this situation as well.

Make sure you read these pages to help understand what these saints need.

http://www.luckymojo.com/saintjude.html
www.luckymojo.com/saintexpedite.html

[ConjureMan]

I know it is tempting to turn to the saints for all types of work, including harsh break-ups in which someone else has captured the love of a mate or spouse and must be driven off by breaking up their relationship. However, I really only recommend this option for those familiar with Catholic folk-magick and those who have saints as part of their world-view. While the saints are blessings, they will not work with everyone.

My first recommendation in trying to work a break-up is to get yourself a reading to find out what has been done and what you can do about it. Follow this up by strong cleansing work, protection, and then start to break the interloper's hold over your spuse and draw him or her back. Discuss this with your reader and they can help set up a plan of action or may even take on the case for you. If the saints are part of that plan, yur worker can guide you further.

[starsinthesky7]

Saints will not work with everyone, and do not have to work with everyone. And just because someone is familiar with saints or Catholic folk-magick does not mean they will work with that person either.

The only way someone is going to become familiar with anything including saints is to study them, and to start to work with them to see if they can be come apart of the world-view or not. I did not start out working with saints, and never thought I could.

An individual can get a reading to see if the saint is willing to work with them or not.

[ConjureMan]

Starsinthesky7,

We are definately on the same page.

Studying is good, but make sure to familiarize yourself with what it means to petition a saint.

A reading can always help to indicate whether a spirit, or saint is willing to work with one with a break-up.

[Mama Micki]

I agree, ConjureMan Ali, However, I would put angels such as St. Michael in a different category, since people of many different religions work with them. He was originally a Jewish angel, before the Catholic religion existed. He is also a Muslim angel now.

[ConjureMan]

Yup, yup. I'm with you, Mama Micki.

[cognitivedissonance]

St. Dymphna is the patron saint of mental illness, and has a particular love of those suffering from depression, as her father suffered from it. I suffer from depression and keep a St. Dymphna card in my cupboard. So many thanks to this little known saint!

[niteraptor]

I haven't found what I was looking for, so here goes. yes i am squeamish so i want to understand this TOTALLY.

1) Would a cat's ashes count as graveyard earth? My first kitty is still in his statue urn.

I live on Cemetery Hill. It was first a native and now the town cemetery. As far as my older neighbors say there were stone piles up and down all over here that were possibly graves. The stones were taken for buildings. My house has a such a laid stone foundation and dates from 1880. Although the actual foundation is a different size and shape then the current house.

The grave yard is HUGE with walkways and a chapel like a mini town. its also still in use, receiving a solider from Afghanistan just a while ago. This is not my town originally so I have no relatives up there.

2) What would the appropriate way to pay for earth that is native as well as new occupied and use it for protection?

3) I know soldiers graves are mentioned but should I pick one from a older war?

4) How would I tell if my house was part of the original native burying ground and would it be appropriate to invoke protection from the spirits rather then a deceased Anglo spirits since this was a contested area and in sight of my house is a massacre site?

5) If I want to lay something to ground at a cross roads would like a hot foot bottle be better at the cross roads up there -- or should i stick to only positive things there?

I cant go burying things in the gas and git parking lot at midnight, they might think I was weird, lol. I also know where there are several private cemeteries to past farm families. And I know where the state veterans graveyard is. its feels very pristine and dead there tho, whereas the one behind my house i swear i see people walking around when i don't look directly at them.

6) What is root work's take on speaking to relatives or working with deceased family?

7) Is there something I should be doing to either honor or welcome deceased family members?

I feel that since i was taught SOME of this and my aunt is gone, i should look into it deeper.

[KhonsuMes]

Yay Triplethreat!
One more, one more....

[interested]

Thank you for that wonderful post cognitivedissonance!! It is very informative. As a Catholic, I love reading about the life of the saints as I am starting to petition them more and develop a relationship with them as I go along. One more guys!

[RedRose]

Sounds strange but is it possible to attract helpful spirits to follow you?

[Miss Tammie Lee]

Belief and Focus.

[cabriellenil]

I put a glass of water with a bit of florida water in it underneath my bed when I'm sleeping.

[Miss Tammie Lee]

Cabriellenil-- GREAT POST!