Disposal of Ritual Remains Questions and Answers

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:19 am

Glass recycling is simple, easy, and helpful to the environment. Please recycle!

Because so many people come to the forum to ask about this, i shall now go add a small notice about glass recycling to the "Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" deployment and disposal page at "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice," here:

http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Spell Kit Remains Questions and Answers
disposal-of-spell-kit-remains-questions ... 12316.html

Disposing of Bath Water and Floor Wash Remains
disposing-of-bath-water-and-floor-wash- ... ml#p120548

Candles: Disposal of Ritual Remains
candles-disposal-of-ritual-remains-t7525.html

Using Leftover Incense Ash in Rootwork
using-leftover-incense-ash-in-rootwork-t24073.html

Good luck!

Unread post by **cognitivedissonance** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:22 am

As I'm a boozehound, my immediate idea is as home to a new signature drink of some sort...

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:22 am

I have extensively rewritten the section of the "Laying Tricks" page that relates to storage and disposal of supplies. You can now find the new information here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html#storage

Thanks for the feedback, folks -- it helps me know what you want me to write about and help you with!

Aina2 · Unread post by **Aina2** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:42 am

Hello everyone! I was doing an attraction spell on something I wanted the other day. I rolled my candle in herbs and it produced an inferno if I ever saw one. In fact, it got so out of hand, I had to put it out due to fire safety concerns. Had I let it burn out on its own, the name paper would be completely consumed in fire and there would be no wax left. After I put the fire out, I collected the remains and now I am thinking if I should dispose of them my front door step as usually done with attraction spells, or should I bury them at crossroads, since I didn't let everything burn out on its own. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Elveta · Unread post by **Elveta** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:26 pm

Aina wrote:Hello everyone! I was doing an attraction spell on something I wanted the other day. I rolled my candle in herbs and it produced an inferno if I ever saw one. In fact, it got so out of hand, I had to put it out due to fire safety concerns. Had I let it burn out on its own, the name paper would be completely consumed in fire and there would be no wax left. After I put the fire out, I collected the remains and now I am thinking if I should dispose of them my front door step as usually done with attraction spells, or should I bury them at crossroads, since I didn't let everything burn out on its own. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I did the same thing with the road opening spell. I annointed my candles with oils and then rolled them in herbs. Too much herbs. It was a mess, not to mention a fire hazard. Needless to say, I don't think that my road opening worked too well.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:54 pm

You can dispose at the crossroad or in running water since the spell was interrupted and would have been hazardous.

RedSangria · Unread post by **RedSangria** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:05 pm

I'm almost done sealing a spell. The remnants of candle, amulet, etc. have to be buried same day in a cemetery.

There were specific hours throughout this 3 day sealing when I had to light the candle. I have 2 more times left - 9 am and 3 pm. I can keep it burning only when I light it for the last time at 3 pm (Thursday) when it has to burn till the end, but there's simply no way it'll burn to completion by 3.30 or thereabouts. The huge problem is that all cemetaries in Manhattan close at 4. Unless I scale the gates, and believe me, I already considered it, there's no way I can bury the remnants that same day I conclude the ritual.

Help! Is it alright if I do it the next day or must it be on the same day, come hell or high water?

Time is of essence. Please advise.

Edited for typos bc I can't type normally on my phone. Apologies.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:16 pm

hmm dont really know what spell you are doing, but you seem to be specific to the time frame, Im from NYC and I know in some of the burrows the graveyards are open till dawn, and I know off broadway there was a cemetary (really old) by trinity chruch which ppl went and ate lunch its not gated off you can walk right in anytime. So their are options afterwards you might just have to take a trip

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:18 am

This is not anything i know about, 'cause with terms like "3 day sealing" and "burying it the same day" it sounds like you are following something you got from someone else, not from my site -- so you really ought to ask the one who gave you the spell.

We're here to help you selecting spiritual supplies and working with spells from our site -- and with up to 100 posts per day now, that's really all we have time for -- but j82 seems to know his New York cemeteries, and gave you some leads, too, so good luck!

RedSangria · Unread post by **RedSangria** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:53 am

Miss Catherine - I can only imagine how busy you are. Thanks for reading this and your input. I appreciate the luck as well.

j82 - We're speaking of the same cemetery. They're now very specific about closing the gates exactly at 4

missyd915 · Unread post by **missyd915** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:01 pm

Hi All,
I finished a 'love me' mojo hand last night and took the remaining wax (there wasn't much) to a river today for disposal, but due to heavy rain the banks of the river were muddy and it was shallow and somewhat muddy for about a foot extending from the bank. So i tried to throw it over my shoulder as far into the river as i could but some i fear landed in the shallows and not in the flowing water (i didn't have a stable footing at all as the mud was dangerously slippery lol)- should i be concerned about this? Up until this it had been very positive as my wax remains formed a perfect heart shape with little else left and im now worried that it landed in muddy stagnant water.
Thanks in advance.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:52 pm

The best thing to always do is to toss your remains in the river and let it go. Walk away confident and with faith.

wasylena · Unread post by **wasylena** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:50 pm

I'm working on a cast off evil candle. I have a name paper written underneath the candle with the person's name written 3 times and my name written across their name 3 times. I have finished the spell and I'm taking the candle remains and throwing it into a crossroads. Should I throw away the name paper with the candle wax? How are name papers and petitions normally dealt with when spells are finished? Thanks for your help

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:55 pm

Generally you dispose of the name paper along with the wax residue. In this case you want to remove that influence so dispose of it along with the wax.

mabsan5x5 · Unread post by **mabsan5x5** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:42 am

I'm going to be doing a cleansing bath for the first time. I understand you are supposed to dispose of the water at a crossroads. I have a couple questions:

1. Do you dispose all the water at the crossroads? That seems like a lot of water to be hauling.

2. In what direction to you toss the water?

3. Is there prayers or psalms to be read when disposing it?

4. Also, the closest crossroads to me is two intersecting one-way streets. Will that effect its power, the fact that it doesn't travel the four directions?

Thanks much!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:46 am

Read the "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" page called "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" here:

http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

If your questions are not answered there, also read the "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" page on "Bathing and Cleaning" at

http://luckymojo.com/baths.html

If you still have questions, come back and ask them again!

Good luck.

mabsan5x5 · Unread post by **mabsan5x5** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:58 am

Okay that's some great information thank you! One more question - can disposing of the bath water in running water have the same effect as tossing it at crossroads?

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:28 am

Hello All, after taking a long time off and doing much peace and tranquility work, I want to undo any negative spells I have sent others in the past.

Cat mentions it briefly in a previous post:

"If you cannot dig up and dismantle the spell work remains, then your next option is to bathe, cleanse, and bless the person you attacked.

The blessing and cleansing of the former victim can be done in person or by proxy. A more remorseful option would be to reverse the spell to yourself -- for instance, you were angry and sent pain; now you have to reverse the pain into yourself.

This should be followed by restitution and restoration, such as performing a spell for their happiness.

After that you would perform a sin-removing cleansing spell on yourself, such as reciting the 51st Psalm while bathing with Hyssop."

Just wondering, how do you reverse the spell to yourself.. would you do the exact ritual you did to the other only ask that the pain you caused them be brought on to yourself, etc?

Many thanks to anyone who has ever un-done past work they regret.

Thank you.

SP

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:15 am

When reversing the spell to yourself, work it as any other reversing spell (butting a black candle, Reversing oil, etc), only you're putting YOUR name in place of the enemy name - because you were the enemy in that work. Pray that the work be reversed off of your target and sent back to you.

You can read more about Reversing work here: http://www.luckymojo.com/reversing.html

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:12 am

Devi,

thank you so much for the clarification on the Psalm and how to proceed. I really just to put myself in a place where I'm all about positive energy and want to wash away any harm I've caused any others.

Thank you. I will proceed accordingly.

Best Regards,

SP

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:58 pm

wanderingknits -- Devi gave you some great advice.

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Spell Kit Remains Questions and Answers
disposal-of-spell-kit-remains-questions ... 12316.html

Disposing of Bath Water and Floor Wash Remains
disposing-of-bath-water-and-floor-wash- ... ml#p120548

Candles: Disposal of Ritual Remains
candles-disposal-of-ritual-remains-t7525.html

Using Leftover Incense Ash in Rootwork
using-leftover-incense-ash-in-rootwork-t24073.html

Good luck!

mojojunkie · Unread post by **mojojunkie** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:29 pm

first i have to say if ur a beginner u should definitely check out the lucky mojo hoodoo rootwork hour audioblog. ive known about lucky mojo for a couple years now and have learned tons since but last weekend i actually checked out the audioblog. even though ive only heard a few of them so far i feel like im learnin all over again. lots of great info.
You can link to it from this page

http://luckymojo.com/radioshow.html

anyways im slowly getting away from the theory of everything and attempting to actually put it all into practice and since i dont have much to work with, common sense says work with what u got, right?

my beginning focus has been to set up a spirit table, ancestor shrine, boveda whatever u wanna call it and go from there so im in the process of getting pictures of deceased relatives and finding statues and stuff like that to complete it. so naturally i really enjoyed the radio show about ancestor work & altars and i forgot who said it but there was a woman using trees as a metaphor to explain the spirit world…the roots represent our ancestors, the trunk represents the crossroads and the leaves the spirit world. she mentioned if u wanted help from the spirits to simply talk into the water and after throw the water into a crossroads so ur request can be carried out.

i LOVED that metaphor and really connected with it so i guess my question is instead of goin to a crossroads would it be acceptable to take the water to a tree and throw it on the roots as way of giving the spirits (roots) the request (water) so it can be taken through the crossroads (trunk) n sent to the spirit world (leaves)? does that make sense? that thought just came to me the other day n i was curious what others thought.

anyway thanks for hearing me out!!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:33 pm

I believe the show you are referring to is this:

2005-3) Wed. Mar. 2, 2005: The Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour
Ancestor Work: Altars and Offerings,
Dr. Kioni and catherine yronwode,
with Mambo Angel, Dara Anzlowar, and Eoghan Ballard
Audio Archive Status: Dr. Kioni's Audio Blog

I know many people who work with trees to take off negative things, but no one i know works with trees as a substitute for a crossroads. The crossroads is so important to our way of working that i would be reluctant to recommend that you make a substitute for it.

mojojunkie · Unread post by **mojojunkie** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:13 pm

i definitely dont want to stray from tradition n have no problem working with crossroads but i think the gemini in me just got curious :] thanks for the advice cat!

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:39 pm

A tree has a spirit all its own. Some people work with trees and some even call upon trees to remove negativity. This latter is seen in egg spells and bath water that is tossed at a sturdy tree to take the mess off of you. Things are also buried in tree roots to tangle things up and hide them, things are hung on tree branches to protect or draw luck (think blue witch bottles), things are hammered into tree trunks to stop them up. So trees are seen as helpful spirits (Dr. K often mentions how he works with the spirit of trees), as spirits that are deeply rooted and sturdy.

Yet, none of this carries the same power of the crossroads. The crossroads is the meeting place between this and that, here and there, our world and the beyond. That's why such water is tossed into the crossroads.

You can learn more about crossroads in hoodoo here: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/in ... Crossroads

http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html#crossroads

and

http://www.luckymojo.com/crossroads.html

To learn how trees are traditionally employed in hoodoo you can read here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html#tree

mojojunkie · Unread post by **mojojunkie** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:53 am

thanks conjureman. yea actually when cat mentioned people use trees to take off negativity i said to myself "oh thats why eggs are thrown at trees." like i said above im getting away from just reading and trying to get over myself n just experience already...i tend to doubt myself and over analyze but im getting over that as well. thanks again for your reply!!

Mr Howard · Unread post by **Mr Howard** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:28 pm

We have recently bought a new home which has sat empty for the last 2 years. In the process of deep cleaning the house, meldew etc; we have found 3 packets of assorted herbs with buttons and what appears to be hairs. One packet was wrapped in tin-foil the other 2 were wrapped in cloth. They were all 3 placed up high on the back of shelves in 3 different rooms. Not knowing whether this is someone else's work or attempt at work, what is the best way to dispose of these packets. In addition to these the walls through out the house appear to have what looks like tobacco or snuff spit residue on them in unusual places. Any thoughts? I would appreciate your input.

Peace,
H

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:49 pm

Hi and welcome to the forum. I would take them to the crossroads-- away from the home to the city limits.
I would then do a cleansing of that home starting with a White Sage Bundle, Salt, Lucky Mojo Chinese Wash
http://www.luckymojo.com/chinesewash.html
and after you are done cleansing, Lucky Mojo Peaceful home and/or Lucky Mojo Money House Blessing incense
http://www.luckymojo.com/products-house-blessing.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/products-money ... ssing.html
Good luck to you!
PS... I would also want to know about what was "it all about" "and what to expect" and "Do I need Protection right now?" and I would have a reading through the AIRR:
http://readersandrootworkers.org

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:49 pm

Great advice, Triplethreat. Thanks!

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:13 pm

Thank you Miss Cat!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:39 pm

I agree...great!

Mr Howard · Unread post by **Mr Howard** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:48 pm

Thanks Triplethreat for your advice. I was already planning to do a cleansing after the heavy duty cleaning is done, I did not want to dilute the effect of the cleansing. So you were ahead of the game in your suggestions on the cleansing. Why Chinese wash over Van Van?
Thanks again.

Peace,
H

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:15 pm

http://www.luckymojo.com/vanvan.html
The Lucky Mojo VANVan Spell Kit includes both!
The Van Van choice is EXCELLENT! Good for you!
I have Lucky Mojo VanVan and Chinese Wash and I would NEVER be without either. Here is a declaration (I know what it says about a cleansing for the home... when I shower daily and wash my hair daily I even take a tiny drop work it up and go from head to toe "washing down" get it?-- now people might think this is nuts, but I do it.) I also sip Four thieves Vinegar every morning, but I am very into Protection. (drops) The spell kit for VanVan would be GRAND in this case and again GOOD FOR YOU for having the knowledge and "the get go" and talent to find what is needed in your case! YES to the kit-- because you are indeed correct!

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:23 pm

Is this an investment property?

Mr Howard · Unread post by **Mr Howard** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:47 pm

Thanks again. No,this will be a private residence for me, for now.

40thblack · Unread post by **40thblack** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:05 am

Hi, Is there another way to bury or dispose used materials other than the crossroads???

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:22 am

Depends on the trick. Running water or graveyard are the other two most common options.

40thblack · Unread post by **40thblack** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:36 pm

Thank you Devi Spring

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:43 pm

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Spell Kit Remains Questions and Answers
disposal-of-spell-kit-remains-questions ... 12316.html

Disposing of Bath Water and Floor Wash Remains
disposing-of-bath-water-and-floor-wash- ... ml#p120548

Candles: Disposal of Ritual Remains
candles-disposal-of-ritual-remains-t7525.html

Using Leftover Incense Ash in Rootwork
using-leftover-incense-ash-in-rootwork-t24073.html

Good luck!

maryj020 · Unread post by **maryj020** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:23 am

Good Morning,

Before doing any hoodoo on my own, my friend told me to do a break up ritual, and she told me to bury the bottle in MY BACK YARD, and now I am looking back at this situation and the couple are still together, and I feel ther is some blockage. I am thinking that I buried it in the WRONG PLACE

. Is it a good idea to digg it up, deploy it elsewhere, and do a cleansing bath, with LM products?

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:28 am

You did indeed get misguidance from your friend. We do not bury negative things in our own backyard--think about all the hatred, anger, and sadness you put into that jar while you made it and worked it--is that the kind of stuff you want hanging in your backyard? No! The proper method of disposal for a break up bottle is to bury it where the couple you wish to break up will step over it everyday--typically close to their front door. There are other methods of disposal as well, but that one is especially effective. For more on proper disposal techniques, please see:
http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

good luck,
Bri

maryj020 · Unread post by **maryj020** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:12 am

Thank you sooo much, I am buying a shovel today, and do you think I should take a hyossp bath afterwards?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:13 am

BlissfullyBastet · Unread post by **BlissfullyBastet** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:10 pm

Hello,
I will be in need to dispose of unused material from my Uncrossing Kit, as stated in the instructions.
My questions is: do I need to removed whatever I did not used from the packets and toss the empty packet in the
trash or do I need to leave the material in the packet for the disposing at the cross-road.

I will appreciate any help.
Thank you and blessings.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:37 pm

You dispose what you used. What's left in packets can be used later. It is the remains that you want to dispose of.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:05 pm

Correct. Anything unused can be safely stored for later use.

BlissfullyBastet · Unread post by **BlissfullyBastet** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:03 am

Thank you both for your reply.
The only reason I asked it was because in the instructions for the clean up day it say to disposed of the unused materials
in a white cloth as long with all the other remains.

Thank you again and blessings.

invizweb · Unread post by **invizweb** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:31 am

Cat Yronwode wrote specifically on the Look Me Over page that the remains (candle wax, incense ash, etc) be buried in the front yard in front of the house. What if one does not have a front yard?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:35 am

Well, the idea of burial of the spell kit remains in your front yard is to draw the person toward your home.

So what i would do is to dispose of everything in a nice park, someplace i might wish to visit and hang out with him on a sunny day, or in the front yard of a church where i wished to be married to him, or some such.

But i would also reserve some of my bath water from the rite and splash a little of that across my front door area. You can put a bit in a water bottle and then just "accidentally" spill the bottle out.

You want to mark the approach to your dwelling -- get it?

Good luck!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:41 am

You can also put the remains in a potted plant, and keep them at the front door, porch, window sill, etc. Make sure you keep the plant alive and well too.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:13 pm

cat and starsnthesky7 gave you some great ideas on ritual disposal, however, have you read this website where cat discusses the Disposal of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition (found here http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html)? Good Read!

BlissfullyBastet · Unread post by **BlissfullyBastet** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:08 pm

hello everyone,

I am feeling a little confused about the disposal of ritual remnants at the cross-roads.
I just read the Laying Down Tricks and disposing of Ritual Remants page.
If I well understood it says "to decrease throw it west, to increase throw it east".

My confusion started because I have been reading a lot in the forum and I have read some estate to throw it east regardless of the purpose of the bath.
I had, not to long ago completed the Uncrossing Kit, and if I well remember it said throw the nwater to the east?????
Did I do this wrong? I have also done 13-herbs and throw the water to east as well, wrong, too??

Could anybody be so kind to help me with this confusion?

I am really new on this, and the uncrossing kit was my first product I have used from LM.
Blessings to all.

trish76 · Unread post by **trish76** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:37 pm

Hello

You may have been on the wrong page because the uncrossing page doesn't have much about laying tricks because it's purpose is the opposite. Here is a link to the Uncrossing spell kit page, where other workers, including cat are giving advice and instruction on how to work this.

uncrossing-spell-kit-questions-and-answ ... 94s30.html

personally, I think I read somewhere else, either in that thread or another, that you throw it over your left shoulder. In any case, that link will be helpful to you.

BlissfullyBastet · Unread post by **BlissfullyBastet** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:52 pm

Thak you trish76,
I believe we are probably be talking of two different pages---- I have also read that page.
But, what I am really talking about is the instructions that comes with the kit itself, not the online instructions.
I am guessing that all my work was in vain.

and maybe I am going to have to re-do the whole thing again.

Thanks anyway.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:04 pm

How is your work in vain if you have completed the spellkit and all that's left is disposal? Follow the instructions given or if you feel the need to throw to the West...that is fine as it is appropriate for what you are requesting.

By the way, the links on the web gives the various traditional methods for ritual disposals. cat designed this page because many people take issue with certain types of disposal for example, burial in a graveyard, or burial in an apartment etc etc...

BlissfullyBastet · Unread post by **BlissfullyBastet** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:53 pm

You know jwmcclin, now that you put it that way---- it really makes sense.
Thanks for posting--- I was feeling a little discouraged, I don't even know why.

I read your response and I was like--- yeah, I remember reading somewhere that some people choose to dispose to the west/east or east/east---
Thank you for your time and effort on making me feel I was making a mistake buy doubting what I have done so far. To removed all the negativity in my life.

Blessings

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:05 pm

...thats one of my purposes!...

Glad I could help!

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:42 pm

Proper ritual disposal--especially of bathwater--is one of the hotly contested issues in Conjure

It seems that everyone has been taught a specific way and no two people have been taught the same way. A general rule of thumb and way to think about disposal in terms of East and West though, is in terms of the Sun and its daily arc across the sky. The sun rises in the east--so anything that you want to strengthen and draw more of into your life is represented by that direction. The sun sets in the West so anything that you want to get rid of, let go of, or negatively effect can be worked in that direction. For things like uncrossing you may be instructed to dispose of the water in the east because what is being strengthened is you shiny, new, uncrossed self.
Hope that helps!
Blesings,
Bri

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:47 pm

Great examples Miss Bri!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:58 pm

As Bri said, different families and communities hold different traditions. I have heard East more often than West, even by those who wish to remove things. But many people use both East and West, exactly as Miss Bri explained it. The bathtub was simply tipped so that the water flowed in the indicated direction:

One way i was taught to pray on it, which also will help you remember it, is this,

"As the Sun rises (you have to face to the East to see the Sun rise!), bring my [whatever] to me."

versus

"As the Sun sets (you have to face West to see the Sun set). remove this [whatever[ from me.

When i was told to "Work by day and by night" or to "Pray by day and by night," what was meant -- and what i teach to my students -- is to perform the rite twice a day, one as the sun rises, to draw in the good, and once as the Sun sets, to send away the bad.

For instance, if the issue is money, then "to work by day and by night," you will pray to the East in the morning ("As the Sun rises, bring my money to me") and to the West in the evening ("As the Sun sets, remove this poverty from me").

For a set of general traditional guidelines regarding disposal of ritual remains of all kinds, please see my "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice" web page "Laying Down Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains" from my free online book "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice:

Laying Tricks and Disposing of Ritual Remains in the Hoodoo Tradition
http://luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html

In addition, these are the forum threads that deal with ritual disposals:

Disposal of Spell Kit Remains Questions and Answers
disposal-of-spell-kit-remains-questions ... 12316.html

Disposing of Bath Water and Floor Wash Remains
disposing-of-bath-water-and-floor-wash- ... ml#p120548

Candles: Disposal of Ritual Remains
candles-disposal-of-ritual-remains-t7525.html

Using Leftover Incense Ash in Rootwork
using-leftover-incense-ash-in-rootwork-t24073.html

Good luck!