Astrology: Character Analysis and Spell Timing: Horoscopes, Sun, Moon, Planets, Eclipses, Retrogrades

vataoa · Unread post by **vataoa** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:49 pm

i was wondering when is the best day to start work and to do a cleansing bath.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:30 pm

different-candles-for-different-purpose ... tml#p44765

Here is a great post where Miss Cat writes about days of the week, planetary influences, candles and more! Hope this helps!

Editied.. link took (my technical issues..) A cleansing can be done once a week, once a month or as needed------- depending on what you are working on... It can be done daily on you and your home (white sage, (smoked smudged)-- Lucky Mojo Chinese Wash,) if you are working and the 51st Psalm is also helpful. In addition protection products ( Lucky Mojo Fiery Wall of Protection and LM Four Theives Vinegar... and many more)

Be Blessed!

vataoa · Unread post by **vataoa** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:39 pm

thank you

sunflower73 · Unread post by **sunflower73** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:07 pm

I do the same plus in the search bar I may type in like tuesday planet -- something so that and i can go back and read the post they some put up until I can remember on my own but i think I have it down pat. except what is Sunday?

All I know is that love is really not to be done if you go along with the planets are tuesday and thursday I believe.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:08 pm

Thursday's okay for love, sunflower, if you want a powerful older sugar daddy to give you money!

Seekinghelp123 · Unread post by **Seekinghelp123** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:25 pm

I was just trying to piece together what exactly I should be doing for a reversal candle (black outside, red inside):

1. Purchased mirror tiles face side down, ensuring not to catch my reflection in the mirror.

2. Will cleanse my reversal candle with lemon juice. Will then cut the wick part so that it's now the bottom, and the bottom will have a wick carved out to have the candle now burn upside down.

3. Will then carve the name of my "enemy" backwards. The first letter of the name will start with the wick and I will continue downwards.

4. The reversal candle will be anointed with Reversible Oil. This will be done by placing 1-3 drops in the center of the candle and moving the oil from the center to the wick (the carved out tip) of the candle in an upward motion.

5. I will then write on the bottom of the mirror the name of the person/persons backwards.

6. I will place the mirror (making sure not to catch my reflection) and place the Reversal candle in the middle.

7. I will draw a circle of Crab Shell powder around the candle in a counter-clockwise motion.

8. I will light the candle and let it burn.

I realize this should be done during the waning phase of the Moon. I am not quite sure, been reading on the subject and it is confusing. Does anyone know when the next waning moon phase is?

Seekinghelp123 · Unread post by **Seekinghelp123** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:27 pm

I forgot to add that after this, I was going to do the Fiery Wall of Protection spell kit and bathe in the 13-herb bath for 13 days.

I realize that after this, I need to cleanse all the negative energy from myself and give myself protection.

Please let me know if there is anything else I have forgotten.

2010luckyme · Unread post by **2010luckyme** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:05 pm

There you go rainbow95 thanks to Devi we both have a plan now. good luck!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:54 pm

That seems like a well thought out plan! Best of luck.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:35 pm

I agree, you have a well thought out plan. Good Luck Seekinghelp123!

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:11 pm

Sounds good to me. I prefer to cleanse with Florida Water, but that's the only thing I'd do differently.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:33 pm

I like your plan. To follow the moon phases, go to the Lucky Mojo Moon Phases information page and Moon Phases calculator:

http://luckymojo.com/moonphases.html

sunflower73 · Unread post by **sunflower73** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:05 pm

lol oh no that is okkkkkkk.lol

catherineyronwode wrote:Thursday's okay for love, sunflower, if you want a powerful older suggar daddy to give you money!

Marnie · Unread post by **Marnie** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:11 am

Hi,

first of all I'm sorry for the mistakes I might make. Although I study English I'm not a native speaker.

Okay I have a problem with my Ex Boyfriend. I really loved him and in some ways I really still do. We were very very happy and I wanted to move to his town. It was a long distance relationship.
But from one day to the other he chanced and told me that he does not love me anymore.
It really was like Monday he was totally in love and Tuesday he cried and didn't really like me anymore.
He got mean. His whole family is confused. There were two month where he chanced his mind a lot. Wanted to break up or wanted to spend his life with me. He told me it was just to much responsibility and that a relationship would be too much. And than I could not take it any more and I broke up. He was very mad at me about that.
Know he has a new girlfriend. And we had a huge fight so there is no contact between us. I just talk too his family very often.
There were some hexes included which were basically meant for my sister. She had a jealous lover and he did that stuff but I got the problems instead of my sister. It was like everything that was important for me went away. And I had some serious health problems.

It's hard to describe. The situation started in February. But still I have the feeling that it's not right. That we are not supposed to be separated.
So it is a lot more complicated than it sounds but it would take too long to write everything down and it is a bit too private. But I think I wrote down the most important parts.
So my question is... what spells would be good? What can I do? I already ordered the love me spell kit. Should I do anything else?
I would be very happy to get some help.
Thanks a lot.
Marnie

Unread post by **Ms Melanie** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:25 am

Marnie,

If you think you have been jinxed then I suggest you order the Jinx breaking bath crystals and powder before you do any type of reconcilation work.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:34 am

Before jumping to any conclusions about if you've actually been crossed or not, you should get a reading with a professional worker so that they can do a divination and determine whether or not anything has been thrown at you. You can find a list of very good workers at http://www.readersandrootworkers.org

In the meantime, you can do some cleansing and protection work, which will start helping relieve the negativity (no matter what the source - because you do not need to be cursed for negativity to build up around you and start troubling you, hurt and angry emotions can do the same thing). You can use 13-Herb Bath to bathe in, and give you home a good cleansing using Chinese Wash. Burn some Fiery Wall of Protection incense in your home each day once you have cleansed it, and that will help keep anything new from bothering you. All of this is a good routine to get into anyway, as it will generally keep your roads opens!

Once you get your reading you will have more specific answers and info about your situation.

Best of luck!

Marnie · Unread post by **Marnie** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:12 am

Oh sorry I already did that. That was fixed with the help of someone professional. I forgot to say that. I thought it might be important but that's over and done. Know I need help with the other stuff.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:27 am

I would still recommend a reading on the situation - love stuff is often so very complex with lots of hidden details that make all the difference when approaching work for the case. You could go back to the professional that helped you before since they know you and you had a good experience with them before. Especially since there is sensitive and private matters that you don't wish to discuss on a public forum, which makes it more difficult for us to give you really great advice.

Glad you got aid for the other bit, though.

Marnie · Unread post by **Marnie** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:36 am

Okay my fault. Looks like I forgot all the important parts.
I also did that.
And it was said that it's complicated. That it looks like he is very selfish and that he is confused.
It was said that it got too serious. That he has the feeling that I'm too good for him.
That he can't deal with someone who is special because I've gone though a lot of unnormal and hard times.
And he treated me wrong so know he has the feeling that he can't go back and I am the living proof that he is not as good asa person as he always tought he was.
But feelings can't dissappear in a day.
And well if it helps I can talk about the personal stuff as well.
Because this person I went to wouldn't do anything that has do do with love and I would prefer to do it on my own.

And yeah me too. After some broken bones and other bad luck I had enough of that!^^

PurpleShoes · Unread post by **PurpleShoes** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:54 am

thanks so much, that is incredibly helpful. i may not be able to follow the moon phases because there is an event beginning on the 12th which i find it slightly necessary to do the work before...after that point in time the distance between the target and myself will be much greater. also, i asked before about whether i could reuse old personal concerns from a honey jar that- pieces of cloth soaked in semen- for a crossing spell...the answer was no as it's not good to mix positive/negative work. i'm wondering if those pieces could be used in a commanding spell instead? the spell is not exactly love work but it is about bringing something towards me and in that way "positive"

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:20 am

santisimamuerteom14, if the candles you ordered are not Lucky Mojo purchases, I doubt you will get help here as this site is built for Lucky Mojo customers.

tboy1977 · Unread post by **tboy1977** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:05 am

Like I really want to do some spellwork, but was told you can only do banishing work on a waning moon. Is this true? I want to do a seven day poppet love spell, bad!

Brujita Angelical · Unread post by **Brujita Angelical** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:17 am

I think most people here who are more experienced than me in Hoodoo might tell you that while yes you CAN wait to do banishing work on waning moon and growth type of work on waxing moon, if the need is important or urgent you don't have to wait for the moon. You can do it as your need arises.

There are more discussions on this on here. you can do a search and see their answers.

good luck!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:48 am

Guess what Brujita Angelical! You are on target...so tarie77, you really want to go for it.

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:57 am

Moon cycles and sun rises and sets do have qualities toward banishing and receiving and very good energy for your spells. But If you need to or feel overwhelmed and compelled to do a spell right away, Don't wait! There is a need, there is a reason that you should follow your intuition. This energy will assist your work just as well. If it can wait it would defiantly be beneficial. Remember this as well. You can cast the spell you wish to now. Then there is nothing to stop you from preforming another spell during the next appropriate or suggested lunar cycle.

Good luck in your endeavors!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:32 pm

If you cannot wait for the Moon cycle, then use the days of the week instead. Some people use the hands of the clock so when the hands of the clock are rising, or some people use when the sun is rising to do drawing work. The opposite such as when the hands of the clock are falling, or when the sun is setting to do break up, crossing, or banishing work such as hot foot, banishment, or cleansing work. The moon phases is only one way to do timing work.

Phoenix333 · Unread post by **Phoenix333** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:55 pm

Yeah, just remember, hoodoo embraces practicality.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:24 pm

Miss cat has bundled all the questions of spell timing into three threads where she provides in depth answer. The topic itself can be a book all its own, but these threads are highly worth reading through and will answer your questions

This is one of the three threads.

See also:

spell-timing-planetary-influences-days- ... t1429.html

spell-timing-eclipses-and-retrogrades-t2025.html

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:35 am

Thank you both. I really appreciate it! I am dressing candles for this evening. The full moon phase is in Libra tonight and tomorrow night, and I believe the balance of power can shift back towards my Mom.
I am using the "boss fix" for a senior supervisor for my Mom to sweeten his opinions, and I am using hot foot oil and dressing a black candle which will have the name of the mean "immediate" supervisor. I am going to burn the black candle over that person's business card. Last but not least, I have dressed (white tea light) candles with lucky mojo protection oil and holy water and they will burn on both sides of the 4 inch black candle to offset any reversal from the "hot foot" black candle. I'll let you know how it all turns out! Thanks Lucky Mojo, Ms Cat, Starsinthesky7 and Devi Spring!

lovingme1 · Unread post by **lovingme1** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:52 am

I have purchased items to do a love spell. My boyfriend and I live together and I desire for us to be closer, possibly leading to marriage. It is hard timing what I need to do since we live together. He is gone on a work assignment for the week and I am concerned about the moon phase. The next full moon is not until Oct 23 but timing (alone) will not allow me to wait. Will the spell have an effect if I do it now during the current moon phase?

Also I am to understand to bury the remains in my yard, what happens if we move? Do I leave what I buried there or dig it up and bury it at the new place?

allofthemwitches · Unread post by **allofthemwitches** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:32 pm

It's my understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong, that you want to do spells for effect, just after the new moon - while in the waxing phase. That way the spell gains momentum.

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:57 pm

Working with moon phases is not mandatory. If you only have a certain time to do a spell, do it when you can. The spell will still work provided you have faith and the proper intent.

As for spell remains, there's no need to dig them up simply because you move. This topic has actually already been covered and you read more about it in this thread.

i-am-moving,-and-have-spell-remains-bur ... t3622.html

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:03 pm

lovingme1,

Please do not post two topics in one post. Ask each separately in its own topic thread. To find if a thread already exists, try a forum search and post to the appropriate thread. There is a thread on disposal of ritual remains and it is NOT this thread., and thanks to thelighfantastic for pointing that out.

Here are the relevant Lucky Mojo web pages for spiritual supplies according to a number of different systems of calculation of timing:

Planetary Spiritual Supplies and Days of the Week:
http://luckymojo.com/planetary.html

Zodiacal Spiritual Supplies and Zodiac Signs :
http://luckymojo.com/zodiacal.html

And here is a simple teaching tool to help you work by the phases of the Moon:

Moon Phases and Handy Moon Phase Calculator
http://luckymojo.com/moonphases.html

Seekinghelp123 · Unread post by **Seekinghelp123** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:26 pm

I wasn't sure if I can do a reversal spell during a new moon? I read that reversal work should be done during a waning moon, but does this also include the new moon? I checked the moon phases and it is currently a new moon.

Or during the new moon does one do work to attract things? I have a crown of success kit that I would like to use, but wasn't sure if I could do this during the new moon.

If anyone can please explain to me what spells would be appropriate during the new moon phase, I would greatly appreciate it:)

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:08 pm

Please read through the following link: http://www.luckymojo.com/moonphases.html it will tell you literally what each phase of the moon can be used for.

Here is an excerpt that pertains directly to your Crown of Success work:

Let's start with a Waxing Crescent Moon, the kind that looks like a Man in a Moon drawing or a cute Christmas tree ornament with a smiling face and a long white beard. When the Moon is a Waxing Crescent; the dark side is to your left, more or less, and the bright Crescent is to your right. (Sometimes the Moon is tipped a little, so it may not be exactly right or left, but you will know what i mean if you go outside and look at it.) You can use this time to perform waxing, drawing, increasing, or growth spells.

Please remember that timing in hoodoo is based off of many factors. People work by hands of the clock, days of the week, astrological timing, movement of the sun, moon phases etc. However, not everyone times work this way.

Find the place in tradition that resonates with you and remains true to the work and you.

maduro01 · Unread post by **maduro01** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:04 pm

Is there any significance in doing magick tomorrow? I mean with the dates being what they are -- 10/10/10.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:40 pm

10/10/10 -- It's my daughter's birthday. Enjoy!

Thanks.

Seekinghelp123 · Unread post by **Seekinghelp123** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:45 pm

Okay, so I did the Reversal candle (black over red) and did as recommended above. What's weird is that afterwards, I had a headache...not sure if it was because I was putting so much energy into it, I don't know. But I really focused all my intentions into what I was doing. I did the 13 hear cleansing bath, dipped my herb thirteen times, and said Psalm 37 after each submersion.

I definitely feel a weight lifted so to speak. I think it's more the release of my feelings into the preparation of the candle and doing the reversal work and saying over and over again how I want these people to experience the negative feelings and energies that they haven intentionally sent me...that I want them to think about what they've done to me and how much harm they've caused.

And interestingly, my candle is burning very strong......When I first lit it, it was a low flame and before my eyes, it became a strong flame! I read that this is a good sign that the work I am doing is justifable...so am feeling pretty good about this

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:03 pm

I am sure this will come up, there will be a Lunar Eclipse on Dec. 21st on the day of the Full Moon. Please read what has been discussed about spell casting during that phase.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:54 pm

You can light the candle anytime you like. But if you are wanting to start with the moon phases then you can wait until the new moon, or the next friday when the moon is waning.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:55 pm

More information on how to work by the moon, the planets, the days of the week, and the signs of the zodiac can be found on these pages of "Hoodoo in Theory and Practice":

Working by the Moon Phases: http://luckymojo.com/moonphases.html

Days of the Week / Planetary Days: http://luckymojo.com/planetary.html

Astrological and Zodiacal Signs: http://luckymojo.com/zodiacal.html

Unread post by **TBanks91** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:02 am

Mama Micki,

So I will asume that on a Monday I begin Clarity, Inflyence & King Solomon work?

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:39 am

I would not do influencing work alongside clarity and KS Wisdom work--think about it for a moment--you want to help a person see clearly and with wisdom, then you want to influence them to do/see/think about things in a specific way--the two are somewhat at cross purposes with themselves. What I would recommend is that you choose--do you want to dominate or do you really want him to have clarity? Some workers, myself included, will recommend that you begin with one approach and if that does not give you the desired results then go to the next. Sunday or Wednesdays are good for KS Wisdom/Clarity and Thursday is good for power/domination/influence/ Friday is good for power/domination/influence specifically as it relates to love.
Blessings,
Bri

Unread post by **TBanks91** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:09 am

PERFECT MISS BRI! Then I will take away my INFLUENCE OIL, and thank you. I will begin my Clarity Work on Those chosen days! Really appreciate you Bri!

-Peace and My Blessings

Commander Snuggles · Unread post by **Commander Snuggles** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:54 am

Hi All,
I've been using a Saturn candle in conjunction with a LM Break Up candle. However, I just read that Saturn is retrograde. What effect, if any, will this have on my work? Do I need to do anything differently?
I've dealt with Mercury retrogrades before but they don't seem to last as long as this Saturn retrograde will.
Any advice is most appreciated.

Thank You.

Unread post by **Papa Newt** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:48 pm

Many workers do not allow retrogrades to effect their work if they started the work before the retrograde began.

I have in the past, if it felt right, to play a mantra that is dedicated to the planet in retrograde as an offering and a balancing the "energy" of the space I am working in. Also have lit a candle dedicated to the planet to balance the energy as well. Of course I say if it feels right, and a lot of times I do not.

One must be careful as to how much they focus on a retrograde, for your focus/attention is like a magnifying glass and will manifest the effects into your life with greater ease the more one focuses on such a thing. These are just natural ebb and flow of the cosmos and if you have already started the work before the Saturn retrograde, no worries. If you are doing work after such, do what you need to do to get the work done. This is one of the greatest things about hoodoo is the flexibility of it.

Apo · Unread post by **Apo** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:06 pm

I would wait it out and then work with Saturn. A planet retrograde is like something going backwards, it undoes what it has done, and when it goes back direct it re does it, a lil bit like going over a work, changing your mind and redoing it all over again from scratch.

But these are astrological magic rules, not hoodoo rules. Papa Newt's idea of offering a mantra to saturn is excellent, its suppose to counter balance. But remember, asking a planet for help is like asking a person for help, if the person is ill disposed (retrograde) it will be harder for them to help you out.

Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:02 pm

I just got to say that I haven't heard any root doctors putting off work because Saturn is retrograde. Saturn is retrograde four and a half month every year. Would be a long time to hold of on any negative work.

The basic rule should be if you need to work, you work. If you enhance your work by working with appropriate astrological timing that's good. But that would be an enhancement, not a prerequisite to do any work.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:29 pm

Retrogrades, such as Mercury Retrograde which is the most frequent, are mostly about going back to something or reflecting. Retrogrades are not, and should not be considered such a negative thing. I mean, yes, they create mishaps, and perhaps different ways of thinking, but if you are in tune with them then you can make them work for you.

So for example, with Mercury retrograde it is about reflecting back on a project that you did not complete, and moving forward on it. During Mercury retrograde, mishaps can happen such as more traffic, communication problems such as arguments, printer problems, cell phones calls dropped, computer problems...just to name a few. If you are a person that doesn't deal well with these things, or if you don't understand the point of mercury retrograde then this is going to be a frustrating time for you. So you are going to have to learn how to cope.

For example, just anticipate more traffic, and leave enough time to plan for accidents, and things of that nature. Leave earlier. Printer problems? Well give yourself enough time to print out something that is important rather than wait until the last minute. Need to sign a contract? Well spend some extra time to think about thoroughly about this contact. You don't have to wait until the retrograde is over. This can be a good time to do break up or separation work...make someone confused, and such.

Saturn retrograde should be about again reflection, and assessment as well. Since saturn is about responsibilities, organization, limitations, obstacles, and so on. I mean this is a time for us to think about our current relationships with others, and responsibilities. This would be a time to restructure our responsibilities, and the time we think about it.

For example, in the news right now...Egypt is going through a revolution. They are thinking about how to restructure their government.

So magically, with break up work you can proceed with it. I would combine this with candles to get a person to start thinking about the nature of their relationship, and understanding that they need to move forward on some PAST problems that have been plaguing this relationship. So you may want to utilize king solomon wisdom and clarity products to get them to understand and SEE that this is not the right relationship for them.

And for the petitioner, I would take this as a time to reflect on your abilities, and limitations as a rootworker. I would take this as a time to become more wise in your own abilities, and perhaps taking the Hoodoo course, or having someone teach you through consultations. You may want to look into psychic vision, and master key to help with your abilities. You should take this as a time to assess and reorganize how you are going about break up work or any work you are doing. Restrategize!

So remember take this as a time to reflect, and assess on yourself, and past situations.

In addition, retrogrades does not mean that the things are not going to work, you just have to go about things in another way perhaps. And if you dont normally worry about the planets, or worry about them, then I wouldnt put too much emphasize on this. Retrogrades, and planetary things are happening ALL the time. Rootworkers are not going to stop what they are doing.

http://www.luckymojo.com/planetary.html

sunstallion · Unread post by **sunstallion** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:37 pm

First, I really don't know what forum to post this topic, so I just posted it here. Administrators, move this to the appropriate place if you want to.

Can anyone please explain this to me ? I am confused.

I read on books and heard that it's good to do spells to attract things on waxing moon and to release on waning moons.

There are also good days of the week for certain spells.

Some people said I still can do a releasing spell on waxing moon and an attraction spell on waning moon. Some people said it doesn't matter the days of the week. I can do on any days I want.

So, here is my confusing:

If I can do a spell for anything on any days, like an attraction spell on waning moon and a releasing spell on waxing moon, and I can do it on any days of the week that I do have to wait for a certain day like Sunday is for something new, friday is for love -- then why is timing is so important in doing spell ?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:48 am

You are correct on both accounts sunstallion. You can certainly work spells at anytime... Read further about How to Work Magic Spells by the Moon and How to Know the Phases of the Moon. click here>>>Moon Phases in Hoodoo Magic

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:41 am

Read this thread:

spell-timing-planetary-influences-days- ... t1429.html

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:50 am

Timing is important because it adds to the nature of the spell. But not working during any type of timing does not take away from the spellwork, which is why if you cannot wait to do something then you can do it whenever you like.

You can read more about days of the week and planetary here as well.www.luckymojo.com/planetary.html

spell-timing-moon-phases-t442s30.html

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:56 am

Dear sunstallion,

MOON TIMING

Many people work by natural timing, especially the moon phases, which are obvious and easy to see, even without a calendar or knowledge of days of the week.

PLANETARY TIMING

Others work by days of the week, because they have calendars and respect the planetary traditions of the seven sacred planets.

IGNORANCE OF NATURE

However, in our current culture of indoor malls and artificial light, most so-called conjure workers, witches, and occultists have no idea what moon phase we are in or -- if they are unemployed and just sit around playing games on their computers and pretending to be root doctors -- no idea what day of the week it is.

The more that people get disconnected from nature, the less likely they are to understand the fundamental principles of natural magic. Spring and Summer and Autumn and Winter mean little to them, either. Nor do they understand the concept of light and dark, since their entire lives are spent in artificially lighted rooms (even during the daylight, they have their light bulbs on!). So those people, the little hive-dwelling matrix-shelved ones whose imaginations outstrip their connections to the world of nature, will tell you, all over the internet, that the timing of a spell is not relevant.

SUBSTITUTION OF RULE-MAKING FOR NATURE

When ignorance of natural cycles becomes the norm, there arises a strange countering force. You would expect this to consist of nature-aware people, but those are not actually a counter-force -- they are hold-outs who never gave up on the knowledge of nature. No. the counter-foorce consists of hyper-legalistic, compulsively correct "players" who want to make the "game" of magic difficult to "win" by setting up stringent "victory conditions" in which, they claim, timing is all-important, because, without following certain rules of timing that they tell you, your spell will fail.

These gamers are all over the internet. They are no more in touch with nature and natural cycles than the mall-matrix dwellers are, but they pretend to be, for the reason that they enjoy the gate-keeper role of being rule-enforcers. They do have a bit of historical knowledge going for them, but their rule-making is not the same as an intutive shaman's or sorcerer's grasp of natural cyclic timing.

MY ADVICE: NEED, PLANETS, MOON PHASES, SEASONS, AND MORE

1) Work by need -- if there is an emergency. That is, if you and your lover just had a fight and he walked out, do NOT wait for the waxing moon to draw him back. Do NOT even wait for Friday. Work the roots and candles NOW.

2) Work by the planets when you can, and especially if you have an ongoing job to do. For instance, Sunday is for health; a perfect day for prayers for the health of your family, every Sunday, for as long as you have family who needs the help.

3) Work by the moon phases for work that needs to be done for a run of days -- as the moon runs to full, work 7 to 14 days in a row of spells of increase, expansion, or drawing; and as the moon runs to dark, run 7 to 14 days of spells of banishing, pushing away, or decrease.

4) Work by seasons if the work is a life-long project: Spring for increase, Summer for consolidation, Autumn for harvest, Winter for persistence under stress.

5) Combine these forms of timing IF AND WHEN YOU CAN.

FURTHER ASPECTS OF TIMING

There are other forms of timing as well, and i describe them all in detail in my "Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course," in which there is an entire lesson on the many forms of timing. In the course i explain how talented and adept root doctors can compile the forms of timing best suited to each spell, in order to take advantage of the currents and rhythms of nature in their work.

To learn more about my course, see this web page:

http://luckymojo.com/mojocourse.html

Good luck.

BellaMars · Unread post by **BellaMars** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:09 am

I have read on the foum that if a spell needs to be cast right away that days/lunar cycles need not be taken into consideration.

I was wondering though if given the fact that today is a Full moon if there is any jar spell in particular that would benefit or be empowered by the Full Moon?

Today is a Full Moon in the zodiac sign of Virgo and its a Friday that is good for love work.

For example would today have been an extra beneficial day to start a Honey Jar Spell or any Love Work or Reconciliation Work on someone whose astrological sign is Virgo?

kymike78 · Unread post by **kymike78** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:26 am

From what I've read, I don't know that I would start one today unless it was an urgent matter.

The moon is about to start waning - getting smaller / going away - and that is typically good for spells or work where you want something to diminish.

So if you can, you would want to wait for a new moon so that the spell could grow as the moon waxes or grows towards full.

Here's a link to a thread - that I think you probably read - about the days and has some links in the discussion about the planetary / week day / zodiacal aspects of timing.
spell-timing-planetary-influences-days- ... t1429.html

BellaMars · Unread post by **BellaMars** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:43 pm

Thanks kymike. I dont have all the ingredients necessary so I cant start anything yet but I thought I was missing a good opportunity!

I am planning to do a white skull candle for clarity and wisdom and its a bit urgent is today (full moon) appropriate for this work? I would word it 'remove confusion' or something like that?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:34 pm

Banishing work can be done during the Waning Moon, which is a time when the moon is growing smaller in size, although it is not necessary in conjure; you can reference further details here about Moon Phases

BellaMars · Unread post by **BellaMars** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:49 am

What is considered a day in hoodoo rootwork?

Is it what we normally go by 12am to 12am or is 6am to 6am?

I know if you want to take into consideration the Planets that you go by the dawn to dawn rule right?

I ask bc I am going to be working a skull candle and the person I am lighting it for goes to bed very late probably midnight and I would like to work the candle around 3am when I know he will be in a deep sleep. Its actually going to be lit for 9 days but I would like to start it on a Wednesday bc that day is for communication and removing obstacles which is what I need to work it for. So would I work it on what we normally would call Wednesday 3am or would I technically light it what we would normally call Thursday 3am ? Or does it not matter if we are not going by the planets?

The same would be for a reconciliation/love honey jar I am planning on working. I plan of working it 7 or 9 days to get it going then I would like to work it before dawn on Mon Wed and Fri. So would I be working it what we know as Mon Wed Fri at approx 5:30am or would it really Tues Thurs and Sat at 5:30am if going by the planets? I am worried about this one bc I dont want to work this spell on the days normally reserved for darker works.

Please advise!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:06 am

Wednesday 3:00am for communication. same with your honey jar M-W-F 5:30am to work before dawn. Make sure you check your state's time for dawn...