Spells for Ex-Lover Ex-Spouse to Return Reconcile Reunite

Tammyw · Unread post by **Tammyw** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:26 pm

Good to know that's what I did. I haven't contacted him I let him contact me. I just will continue what I'm doing. Should I wait until the intranquil vigil candle is done before I go back to working the honey jar?

waterlily · Unread post by **waterlily** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:35 pm

If you ask me i would say there is communication going on right now, you write, she reads and you get the feedback that your email was received and opened/read. Even though it is passive and not so favorable to your efforts i would capitalize on it because there is still some type of contact. I would do what the above forumites suggested, giving some space and act according to movements and advise from your reader. Good lucky!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:46 pm

Well its possible but more effective with communication, its one of those mundane things route95 spoke to...and I agree with waterlilly, communication is in place. The reading is in order for you to know how to tackle this situation. You can ask the reader to either work for you or coach you along the path. Read here about reconciliation work...http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html

randomthoughts · Unread post by **randomthoughts** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:49 pm

thanks for the advice guys and the link.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:55 pm

In addition, in the future please keep updates in your situation in your previous thread. It just helps us when we talk to you, and we can reflect on the situation rather than having to go back and look for the previous thread.

Personally, I feel like there is no point in doing the IS if you are going to continuously contact the client but that is not the same as responding if he contacts you. I agree with thelightfantastic...thats the point is to get him to contact you, and for you to respond. And its important to stay level headed, and let them make them move to some degree rather than beg for them back which is probably not what they want if you have to come to this resort.

You can work on your honey jar as we speak and as you do the IS candle. Or you can wait that is up to you.

Unread post by **corazon** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:07 pm

i'm gonna add my 2 cents, because i'm 32 and have a 12 year old son...
maybe she is hesitant to talk to you because of your anger and the fact that a child is involved. she could be scared at getting back with you due to your anger outbursts and she doesn't want the child to be involved with that..
Maybe enroll in an anger management course, or check some books out at the library. SHOW her the actions you are taking to control your anger better, and she might be more open to communication.

but yeah, definitely go for that reading first.
then the rootworker will know all about your situation and tell you what magic steps to take.

I would also consider some healing work for yourself and her as well.. to heal from the past hurts, and help you both get over your anger issues.
I hope for the best for you!

Tammyw · Unread post by **Tammyw** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:14 pm

Sorry I didn't post in previous thread wasn't sure since it's an update. Makes since will do from now on. Thanks for the responses. It really helps put things in prospective. I've done a lot of research but still have so much to learn. It does feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders, I'm not obsessing over the work like I was before. I'm finding too sometimes with this work you just have to follow your gut instinct. Do what feels right.

randomthoughts · Unread post by **randomthoughts** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:25 pm

thank you corazon, great input.

Elveta · Unread post by **Elveta** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:34 pm

Poetry is nice, poetry and flowers are even nicer -- red roses.

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:53 pm

randomthoughts wrote:some people are saying that reconciliation is not possible without having communication with her? so what can i actually do for her to start talking to me or answering my messages? So rootwork only works when communication is there, how do we know its the rootwork doing the trick then? I dont mean to be a skeptic but I read many successful stories here and done plenty of research.. so I pretty confident something can be done in my case, I know I can start by working on myself, I actually checked into a therapist today to start this process.. But I do want to end up mending things with her.

I even went as far as utilizing the IS spell if all else fails.

Don't worry about what people say, get a reading and then go by what your reader says. Rootwork doesn't just work when there's communication. Sometimes rootwork is needed to begin communication, especially with reconciliation work so don't stop what you're doing simply because she's not talking to you just yet.

Don't petition the intranquil spirit until after you get your reading and you have a plan of action. Without a reading, you're basically flying blind so jumping to a coercive spell just because you're not seeing instant results is not the answer. There's a huge thread regarding the intranquil spirit here that you should read before you even attempt the spell. It's not a nice spell and if your ex is already upset or angry, that spirit is only going to increase those feelings.

Good luck!

randomthoughts · Unread post by **randomthoughts** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:05 pm

does anybody recommend a good Reader that is well experienced in this type of situation.. There are many great ones to choose from on this website but I really don't know how to pick the right one that will work best with my case.?

Unread post by **corazon** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:26 pm

All the readers at AIRR are great - just read through the profiles, and pick the one that "calls out" to you. Read what they do best, and listen to your gut.. its what I did when I first got a reading. All the AIRR readers are very very good and all come highly recommended.

Some workers specialize in certain types of workings - it will say so on each page.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:27 pm

catherineyronwode wrote: Folks, if you start a thread about your situation and cfome back to update it -- PLEASE STAY IN YOUR ORIGINAL THREAD> We cannot follow your story if you don't keep it togeter -- it just breaks down into a series of scattered requests.

Just for future reference, please keep all your posts together if they pertain to the same situation.

Thank you.

randomthoughts · Unread post by **randomthoughts** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:28 am

she called me last nite.

Unread post by **Ms Melanie** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:46 am

Congrats!!!!!!!! I love it when things start to show movement!

Ashley · Unread post by **Ashley** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:26 pm

Devi, that's what exactly I am thinking. This guy hurts me so much, i don't know if i can sustain he hurt me again.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:58 pm

With that said Ashley, I think you would be much better with someone else that truly cares for you. I would definitely go on with a cut and clear, then draw someone else in.

www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html
www.luckymojo.com/cometome.html

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:47 pm

So I have had an very stressful day. To say the least. In concerns with my children, but it is being handled in the best possible manner right now so I was trying to distract myself And found myself doing a wax divination towards my situation with my husband from the candle on our honey jar.

I just thought I would share my result with all of you, as I am grateful for some promising news today. lol

Using suggested manner of reading wax poured from a candle into cold water using tea leaf divination as a way to help guide the process. I found a very promising result indeed!

The wax once cooled, at first looked like just an ear. Upon further inspection, I found that this ear shape was attached to a Deer head, ( the ear laying sideways as the deers body curled up lying down) The deers nose is lightly attached to what looks to me as a flower or a small bouquet of flowers. When flipped over, it looks like the sea waving the tides.

VERY interesting I thought. So I looked in my tea leaf reading book for descriptions of meaning.

An Ear means That you will soon hear something to your liking or advantage either in person or on the phone. When mingled with other positive signs mean good news you have been waiting to hear.

The Deer can indicate a Gentle or Shy person. ( that would be my husband he is very shy and most commonly know for his gentle behavior) Involved in situations revolving work and love.

A Flower or Small Bouquet is a symbol for love and romantic interest and admiration. as well as genuine action to show this love.

The Sea indicates emotional situations were feelings will be soon coming to the surface. it is an intensifying symbol for the other components of the reading.

I found this quite promising, and just wanted to share.

mamacita82 · Unread post by **mamacita82** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:20 am

what candle or spell can i use for reconcilation for my ex boyfriend and me get back together? he loves me alot but he needs to forget the past and come back. what kind of easy spell i can do without useing to muh money because i dont have to much money at all i have a 2 candle those 7 day glass candles. I read the bible alot so if you know any bible verse i can stand on that will be great

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:58 pm

I would use the Reconciliation spell kit, as it's economical and has everything you need for a full working with detailed instructions.

http://www.luckymojo.com/spell-reconciliation.html

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:28 pm

If you cannot afford the entire spell kit, then at least get the reconciliation powder. If you can afford balms of gilead, and some lavender then that would be great. Rose petals are a great addition as well. Then light pink candles or even white on top of the honey jar.

You can say some psalms located within this thread.
psalms-with-reconciliation-candle-spells-t436s360.html

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:08 pm

And of course start with a reading. Find out what this course of action will take for you and what you can do to make sure things end favorably in this situation.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:14 pm

Exactly ConjureMan Ali, the reading is needed first, because it will reveal whether the spell will work in your favor. ...mainly you want to get to any underlying issues that must be dealt with. Reconciliation is great but remember what got you to this point, you mentioned that he has issues with the past, but relationships breakups are not always one sided. You may have other issues to clear up and deal with. Good Luck to your findings mamacita82.

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:57 pm

I feel my husband of 20 years was hoodooed. This is a man that had been pretty decent to me for the last 23 years and one day it was over after having met some scheming tramp at his job. It took a minute for her to work her magick but when it did it was solid. He moved out last November and for a while was not even seeing us.

As time moved on he started slowly making his way back to us, but somehow, she still has a stronghold on him.

I really don't believe that there is any love there on her part or his for that matter. He still sleeps with me every chance that he gets.

He pays her bills and has not done anything in the way of support for months now to help his minor son.

I haven't sought any legal action because I do love him and I feel that she has done something to him to wrap him up. He certainly tries to do the right thing and come by but when he is here she doesn't let him rest and he always have to run and do favors for her when he does try to spend time with us.

I've had a reading done and was told to do cut/clear-yellow votives, road opener-orange votives, these for 5 weeks on specific days of the week and a honey jar with pink/red tea light candles every week trading off the pink from one week to the red for the following week. Everything to be done with a petition.

I have not started any of my work yet as I was told to start with cut/clear on a Saturday.

Are there any other suggestions out there? I know that we have a full moon coming up.

I'm even thinking about feeding him my menes.

I love this man and would go to the end of the earth for him as he is my soulmate and I knew this from the moment I laid eyes on him and have been told that time and time again.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:16 pm

I will give my advice on the assumption that the reading confirmed there was work done on him by this woman. He needs to be strongly cleansed and uncrossed first and foremost, your marriage needs to be uncrossed, and then strong protection set up for him and for you and your marriage set-up and maintained to keep anything else from her affecting him. If she's still working on him, then she needs to be dealt with - a binding and a mirror box type thing may be good.

Certainly you can work a honey jar and road opening and such, it should be able to have more and more of an effect as he is cleansed and uncrossed and the actions of the women neutralized.

However, if the uncrossing and cleansing and neutralizing work was not suggested for you by your reader, I would recommend getting a reading from an AIRR worker to help you figure out those remaining details.

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:04 pm

Ok, is that something that I can do? My reading was done with an AIRR worker but she said that she didn't see him leaving me or me leaving him and that was her suggestion. She also said that she didn't see her doing work on him but I just have a feeling that that's exactly what it is. How do I do a mirror box?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:25 pm

These are questions that need addressing with the reader. The reason I say this is because when a rootworker consults and tells you to do a set of actions you cannot then turn to a public forum and ask for different advice. Especially since you looked for confirmation of work being done on your husband and the reader didn't give that to you. Trust is essential for these types of relationships.

Think of it this way, it's like going to the doctor saying that you have bronchitis and he diagnoses you as having a cold and gives you medication for it, then you hop online and say, "hey my doctor told me I have a cold, but I think I have bronchitis. How do I fix this"

Go back to your reader for clarification, follow the instructions they give you without doing work that may not help you and double check on the cut and clear aspect of the working because from what I know about Cut and Clear it is a personal rite--while it may be backed up a rootworkers with lights, is still something has to do on their own.

But to answer your question, if your man has been hoodooed he needs to be uncrossed and cleansed before you can return him. Hoodooing him back is like tearing him in half--you'll each get a part or the stronger worker will win.

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:37 pm

Well, I do trust the worker it actually was a reading that was right on for the most part I just wondered if there was additional precautions that I could or should be taking. I'm going to follow her suggestions to the letter but I never got anything mentioniong uncrossing or cleansing him from her. This is sort of why I'm reaching out because after doing some research this uncrossing or cleansing seemed relevent if I wanted to try to get him back. What products should I use for uncrossing or cleansing him? How long does something like this actually take? Is there a way I can do this without him finding out. I do still wash his laundry -- so anything will be helpful at this point.

pink_sockies · Unread post by **pink_sockies** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:51 pm

As so many posts start out,I'm in love .

At times I feel really tormented by the sweet memories,because they were the best of my life (quite honestly). Its been well over a year and still nothing. Our blow out was a huge one due to the way it ended, with me never seeing it coming-and him unsure of what he wanted.

I'm not one to overly linger on many bad things, nor to really cry and complain about my life, but I'm tired of this and I want him back. With the way things worked out, I'm now in another province (where I returned to visit family unknowing that things would end, otherwise I'd have stayed to work things out).

He refuses to speak to me no matter what due to guilt and our angry words (despite my attempts to patch it so we could at least be friends).

He it seems has someone else, while I still faithfully wait(never having anyone since him). I'm tired of hoping for a change, instead I would like to push things back to where they (in my mind) should be,

I'm tired of being at a loss, the nights I spend crying and praying with nothing ever coming from it but more pain.

I've been looking for the longest time at every little this and that, over what would be the best to turn things in my favour, to get him to try again.

So tell me, what would you all suggest?

I'm ready for whatever it takes at this point.

I can hardly stand another moment.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:15 pm

After a year? There are two possibilities here: (1) a reading to see what is going on and if there is still a possibility, or (2) a Cut and Clear spell.

For 1, go to AIRR (http://www.readersandrootworkers.org) (Association of Independent Readers and Rooworkers). This is Lucky Mojo's list of independent readers and rootworkers, they are authentic, ethical, and highly respected. If you choose this route ask for a coaching (the reader will advice you on which spell is appropriate for the outcome desired).

For 2, if you feel you want to get past your feelings, Cut and Clear (http://www.luckymojo.com/cutandclear.html) does the job in the sense that it is designed to clear away emotional baggage after a breakup, e.g., clear away ties to the past. Good Luck pink_sockies!

pink_sockies · Unread post by **pink_sockies** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:15 pm

Do you think that the time apart plays a greater factor then the time together?

We were together for a good three years, and so it feels kind've small compared to all those memories and everything that came with all that time

keirith · Unread post by **keirith** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:35 pm

Jwmcclin gave you excellent advice.

No one can tell you if 3 years of good memories is going to tip the balance in your favor or not. There are way too many other factors involved here that we do not know. Plus relationships do not work in such a logical fashion.

But I can tell you that the one year of you 'twisting in the wind' is one year too long.
You need to either try 'working' on the situation or doing the cut and clear.

I think you would prefer the former, and a good reading will not only tell you how to do the work, but if it is even possible after such a long time.

A good rootworker (such as the AIRR rootworkers) will be honest with you and not lead you on with false hopes.

Make sure you express your wishes and ask questions during the reading, so the reader knows how important this is to you.

Mostly, you need to move forward with your life one way or another so you can find the happiness that you deserve.

Best wishes and good luck!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:36 pm

Yes, the longer you wait... its been a year (according to your post).

Now I would admit it doesn't mean that he doesn't think about you, but you have to get a reading to know which step to take. A reading will answer that.

Normally in this situation a reconciliation spell is recommended. But timing is important. It takes a lot of work both spiritually and in the mundane.

pink_sockies · Unread post by **pink_sockies** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:39 pm

So who would be the best to turn to?(Or is that even something that you can point me towards?I figure it may have to go based on who I feel is a "fit",would that be correct?)

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:47 pm

Here is Lucky Mojo's website on Uncrossing (http://www.luckymojo.com/uncrossing.html) I would order the Spellkit because it includes everything needed for the spell plus instructions. The 13 Herb (included in the spell kit) is a spiritual cleansing bath. Yes, you can wash his clothes using the uncrossing bath crystals and/or the 13 Herb Spiritual Bath.

I am gonna offer you some additional advice, read about Spiritual Baths here (http://www.luckymojo.com/baths.html) so you will understand some traditional historical factors associated with spiritual bathing and cleansing. Good Luck in your work.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:49 pm

How much cleansing and for what amount of time and by what methods will be dictated by the nature of the crossing - if there has been one. That is determined through a divination by a rootworker. There are some methods of uncrossing that can be done without a person participating, though I always prefer to try and get some form of cleansing done on the person directly if at all possible (even if that's tricking them into taking a "relaxing" bath that has been made with spiritual bath crystals, etc).

If you have concerns, you really should address them with your reader as ConjureMan Ali said.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:32 pm

Any worker who is old enough to have been in love more than three times will be a reader who understands your heartache, and who will try to be impartial yet give you the answers you seek. Go to the AIRR site, click on each readers name, look at them, read about them, and choose.

Also, as an experienced worker myself, and a reader, and a woman old enough to have had a few love affairs, i'd say that with three years together and one year apart, and he won't even talk to you as a friend, and he is with another woman -- there's not much chance for a Reconciliation spell at this point. You waited too long. Better to do a Cut and Clear spell and move on.

pink_sockies · Unread post by **pink_sockies** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:52 pm

So then,what you're saying is there's nothing.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:08 pm

Actually, what i was saying was, " Go to the AIRR site, click on each readers name, look at them, read about them, and choose."

But speaking NOT as a reader, just as a practical person, i'd say "move on."

pink_sockies · Unread post by **pink_sockies** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:12 pm

Thank you for your honesty.

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:10 pm

I reached out to my worker and I'm still waiting to hear from her regarding the uncrossing or cleansing of my husband. I ran out to purchase needed materials to make a honey jar, is this something that I can do now or do I have to follow a certain order to obtain results? I'm a little anxious because I would like to start immediately. My husband left out Sunday morning and I thought he'd be back Sunday night but no such luck -- he called Sunday evening and I didn't hear from him again until today (telling me he would be over tomorrow morning). I need help to bring this situation to an end with this other person. I'm not looking to do harm but I want her to leave him alone because she doesn't want him she just spends his money and I think she does it to make me miserable.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:58 pm

Personally, I would wait until you have uncrossed and cleansed him before starting the honey jar. It would be like starting on a clean slate. I would do a mirror box, and doll that is blinded, and bound to prevent her from doing any more such work once you have cleansed, AND protected him.

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:14 pm

So, I should cleanse first, then protect (with what product), mirror box, cut/cleanse, road opener, and then honeyjar? Is this the order?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:18 pm

Yes you can do it in that order. If you believe that he has been hoodooed then you need to cleanse whatever crap has been on him before proceeding otherwise its like throwing rocks at a wall. In addition, you can work with fiery wall of protection products for protection

www.luckymojo.com/fierywall.html

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:22 pm

Thank you for your help, can I cleanse us both at the same time in the same bath?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:09 pm

The bath can consist of simply pouring the mixture over your heads. I dont see why you can't do it at the same time in the same bath. THat is up to you.

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:17 pm

Would this be once or numerous times because I don't want him to know what I'm up to. I'm sure he would become quite suspicious if I keep trying to give him a bath where I'm pouring water over his head (maybe able to get away with this once -- but more than that would lead to a problem). Is there a way to do this after the first bath? Could I wash his clothes in this uncrossing bath and then maybe find a powder to dust them with to protect him after the first bath?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:41 pm

You can create a baby doll, and then give that a bath, and you can do what you stated as well. You can sew a small charm into his clothes, and do candle work.

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:51 pm

Wow! I didn't think of that...what all do I need to make the babydoll? I can get whatever personal items. I already have underwear, hair, pictures, the whole nine. Now the babydoll is this something that I can get from lm and then just personalize it when it gets here?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:15 pm

lucky mojo does not sell dolls for this purpose of cleansing. However you can make your own, and search how to make one within the forum. In additon, you can stuff the doll with herbs for the purpose such as rue, hyssop, etc or you can stuff it with spanish moss which is used for all kinds of baby dolls.

wannano · Unread post by **wannano** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:24 pm

Ok, thank you will do. Thanks for all your help, I'm on my way. I did hear from him finally that he'll be by tomorrow. Wish it was something I could do right away--but patience has always been strong.

parisshadow · Unread post by **parisshadow** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:28 pm

hello all! My boyfriend of a year, we broke up for 6 weeks of no speaking at all and have been back together for about 7 weeks due to fighting issues. Things have been going well lately and fights are small. For about a week or so now he's been acting really strange around me, really quiet and unaffectionate. When i ask what's wrong he'll say nothing, he's tired, or its nothing concerning me and doesnt want to talk about it and ill push to to tell me till he gets annoyed. i've stopped asking and now i act as if nothing is wrong and do most of the talking when were together, we see eachother a couple times a week because ill make the plan. We'll hold hands in public but he wont kiss me unless i do and ill always say i love you first it and when i try to sleep with him when im over his house, he'll say that he's too tired and doesnt want to. He doesnt txt me back and if he does it's usually one word responses to my paragraphs. He used to always talk about marriage and kids and just last night he said in front of his friends and i that he is never getting married and that he doesnt know what i want to do with that information since were dating. I didnt say anything.
I used several things to get him back , honey jar, moving candle spell, intranquil spirit, chupparosa candle and recently: my honey jar, dragon's blood candle, and a type of controlling candle to get him to follow mw more and be nicer to me.
Im going crazy because i want to ask what his deal is but i know he'll say nothing or i fear the worse. What's going on and what should i do?

Tammyw · Unread post by **Tammyw** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:19 pm

So I just got my divorce decree in the mail and my ex is ordered to pay much needed spousal support. Which I desperately need, but I am still hoping and working towards a reconciliation. My problem is how to approach him regarding payment. I know he has plenty of money being he hasn't paid mortgage in the last 5months, but I don't want him to be mad at me for asking. Should I be working my honey jar at the time of the call to avoid conflict? Also I only have pink candles, and stay with me, peaceful home oils and sachet powders and come to me oil is there anything I can do with these products in this situation? Thanks

parisshadow · Unread post by **parisshadow** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:01 pm

My boyfriend of a year, we broke up for 6 weeks of no speaking at all and have been back together for about 7 weeks due to fighting issues. I’m 22 and my boyfriend is 24.

Things have been going well lately and fights are small. For about a week or so now he's been acting really strange around me, really quiet and unaffectionate. I finally asked him why he looks so stressed out lately. And he said he was just thinking that for a while that he really never wants 2 get married or have kids and that he doesn't want 2 break up but thinks we should take a step back and go back 2 dating because it’s easier, so I asked if he wants an open relationship and he said no he doesn't want 2 see other people but that relationships are too much drama and it would suck 2 get a divorce. And that no guy ever truely gets over an ex and he wouldn't want another chick 2 have 2 get over cuz it truely sucks.

So he says he cares about me a ton and its up 2 me and what I want 2 do So I said maybe it’s just me and that we shouldn't b together. And he said he’ll still wants 2 b together but it’s really up 2 me at this point. He said he doesn't want 2 lead me on 4 a future. We talked 4 - 5 hrs in his car till 4am.

I'm really confused. He went from talking about no future 2 well see how it goes. He said he wants 2 b together as dating to be less stressful and more fun but that we shouldn't see other people cuz he's over dating and relationships are 2 hard. I asked if he loves me and he only said he cares about me a lot. He said were like an old married couple and he's bored and in a rut because we always do the same thing and I always schedule stuff like 8 days in advance, just like hangouts and he wants more freedom to play video games, hang out with friends.

He says I went back 2 being clingy and smothering him with my dependency and he wants me to do My own thing, that he feels bad that since friday is our date day he feels bad bailing to hangout with his friends once in a while cuz ill b sad and put him on a guilt trip and stay home. He says sometimes he doesn't feel lk hanging out but feels obligated and its not fun half the time cuz he's tired or sore or sick, so he's already in a mood 2 begin with then ill annoy him with lil things lk that all ill do is gossip when were 2gether cuz we have diff interests, so he'll b annoyed with my lil habits cuz I have 2 much energy.

He said he's doing this 2 try 2 save us cuz were both not very happy with each other and bored and he's right, he said he wants 2 see how this goes with me having my own life and giving him his space then we can eventually talk about the future 2gether.

He asked if I see us 2gether in the future raising kids cuz well prob clash on raising it. He says he knows he's an ass and that I've tolerated it a lot longer than most any1. He said he wants 2 make our dating more fun.

I said let's just break up cuz this obviously isn't working, that you do want 2 get married just not 2 me cuz u don't think you can take 24 hrs of me and the more were 2gether the more its gonna hurt 2 break up later and that there is no pt 2 dragging this out when were both unhappy.

He said the ball is in my court but that he really doesn't want 2 break up. I didn't say anything after I said what I needed 2 say about us breaking up and got out of his car and was going 2 get in mine and he just grabbed me and hugged me but I wouldn't hug him back , so he wouldn't let go 4 lk 5 min. And he was just saying that I don't see it now but its 4 the best if we do want 2 get married eventually.

I stayed quiet still got in my car and left and I didn't let him know when I go home so he kept txting that he was worried. I just said I'm fine night. This is a very confusing situation.

He made a lot of valid points about me being clingy again, he said he was so proud of me when we were broken up that I was going out and doing my own fun stuff , but now I again won't do anything without him attached at my hip. And he's right all I do is gossip and I know I'm annoying sometimes. But he pretty much said he didn't love me that he cared about me 2 much 2 leave. I don't know if its my cue 2 leave or try his new system out . what do I do? Had a reading about 6 weeks ago. I used several things to get him back , honey jar, moving candle spell, intranquil spirit, chupparosa candle and recently: my honey jar, dragon's blood candle, and a type of controlling candle to get him to follow me more and be nicer to me. What can i use to make him stay happily with me?

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:43 pm

You shouldn't have to ask your ex for spousal support payments. You can get a lawyer to enforce the order or otherwise go through the court system. If you think it's going to be conflict, better to let the professionals deal with it.

If you're determined to ask him yourself, keep working your honey jar and have some five finger grass on hand when you ask him about it.

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:54 pm

If you got a reading six weeks ago and things have changed since then, you should get another reading from someone at AIRR to determine what is going on at the present time. Readings can only tell so much for a certain amount of time. You can also ask your reader how to approach the situation because it sounds like you've been throwing quite a bit spells this guy's way and he might very well be experiencing conflicting emotions due to that work.

If you also utilized the intranquility spirit to get him back, you basically forced him to come back to you which also explains why he's flip flopping. This spell should only be done as a last resort because it has a tendency to make the target cranky, disagreeable and sometimes fickle.

First and foremost, get yourself another reading. Good luck!

route95 · Unread post by **route95** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:27 pm

Hey, also maybe try to do some work on yourself where you feel more confident/willing to be independent of him. After 6 weeks apart I'm sure he got a bit overwhelmed to jump right back into doing things all the time together.

But yeah, a reading could definitely be a good next step to get an update/more recent insight.

good luck!

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:02 pm

The only way we could tell what is going is via a reading. Seek out the members of AIRR to find out what is going on and what you can do. Perhaps you can back up your work by having lights set for you by MISC.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:29 pm

Yes you should work your honey jar at the same time. I would do some pay me now work to get the money that is owed to you since he is ordered to pay. Stay with me and peaceful home are not appropriate products for this situation as you havent even reconciled yet. You need to get some reconciliation and return to me going and you can use that with the come to me but not alone because come to me does not have the soothing or reconciliation part of it to help with the relationship.

gabbystar · Unread post by **gabbystar** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:05 pm

Hi,

I just came across this site because I was doing research on reuniting spells. My situation is quite embarrassing however but am willing to state it to see if I have a chance of a reconciliation.

Bottom line: me and my ex had a bad falling out, a restraining order was put in place. We were both crazy in love about each other, (kinda like a passionate rock star couple) but I scared the sh*t out of him the other nite out of my stupid rage and he sought an order of protection on me.

Is there no hope for my case? I am willing to do whatever but I can not communicate with the person at the moment.

Gabby