Astrology: Character Analysis and Spell Timing: Horoscopes, Sun, Moon, Planets, Eclipses, Retrogrades

Ginger777 · Unread post by **Ginger777** » Sun May 03, 2009 7:47 pm

Thanks guys for the advice! When I get my goods, I will work my spell. Thanks again!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun May 03, 2009 9:17 pm

I am a practitioner of hoodoo and an astrologer. I do not undertake jouneys or begin new spells that are about Mercurial situations (literature, communication, short trips, etc.) when Mercury is retrograde, For other situations, i am not as particular.

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Ginger777 · Unread post by **Ginger777** » Mon May 04, 2009 6:19 am

Thanks Cat for the good advice!

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Mon May 11, 2009 12:54 pm

hi, all. i wanted to know if doing a spell during a full moon would be in favor of me or the person working against me? i have heard that a waning moon would decrease the power the opposing person has & increase mine & that in a new moon i can have anything i desire. i know that if i want to increase my goals or desire a waxing moon would be good. but what about a full moon? im unsure.

pls help.

thanks,
butterfly

emu81684 · Unread post by **emu81684** » Mon May 11, 2009 8:44 pm

Hi there butterfly. I have read in a few books that say the waxing moon (when it grows) is most helpful when it comes to anything you want to grow, like a friendship, a love or your income. The full moon was always said to be the most powerful and potent, so anything done during this time is supposed to be at its most powerful. The waning moon (when it shrinks) was always said to help when you want to get rid of something gradually like with dieting or diminishing stress or something like that. And the new moon was said to be used mostly for reflection, resting, and divination. I don't know if it's the same in hoodoo, but I've always done work for something I wanted relatively quickly during the full moon and tried to finish it before the waning and when ever I worked anything for love or money, I always used the waxing and my spells did pretty well. As for the other person, I really don't know if the phase would help you and not them or vice versa. I would think she's an equal opportunity helper. I hope this helped you out!

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Mon May 11, 2009 9:31 pm

thank you so much. i feel good. now i know how to move forward. everything you are saying makes sense. i really appreciate your examples & the details - that how i comprehend best. thanks so much again.

SouthernGirl · Unread post by **SouthernGirl** » Sun May 31, 2009 5:07 am

Okay, if this has been covered, please let me know. I didn't find it with a cursory glance. Sometimes, I am able to start/do work at night. But other times, daytime is the only time I am able. Does it matter to a large extent? I mean, for instance, today, my kids are asleep, my husband is at work, so it's quiet. This will be my only "me" time. Would starting some work be worth doing now or should I wait until I have an evening to myself to start? I know for certain things, such as disposing of bath water, the rising sun is the time to do it. But what about things such as honey jars, lighting candles and stuff?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun May 31, 2009 5:39 pm

Depends what you are doing. But if you can only do things during the day time, and thats the only time you can concentrate...then dont fret. Timing is not EVERYTHING. Perhaps, you can use the correct day of the week, or the moon phase. A honey jar is okay to do during the day time, actually anything is okay to do. Just use one form of the timing system such as working with the moon, sun or the day of the week. You should be fine.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun May 31, 2009 6:04 pm

I'm in the same situation. The only quiet time I have is during the day when my husband is at work and my kids are at school. I use the moon phases and days of the week for timing. I usually burn a small candle every day in the appropriate color for the day of the week in addition to any spell I might be doing.

Unread post by **Literarylioness** » Sun May 31, 2009 6:13 pm

SouthernGirl,

In my experience, it depends on what you are working on. If it is to bring a new lover or money, the best time is just before sunrise. As the sun rises, so too shall your fortunes. To get rid of stuff is just after sunset. If it is to get communication or healing work done, that is best left late into the night when the target is a sleep. What is the most important is consistency. If you have a seven day spell, do it consistently for seven days.

That's how I work.

Mary

SouthernGirl · Unread post by **SouthernGirl** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:44 am

Thank you all so much for your replies. My schedule changes. Sometimes I have time at night, sometimes - more often - during the day. I'll plan accordingly.

Thanks again!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:57 am

One daytime spell that has worked for me is for a job interview. Do this right before leaving the house. Put on your interview clothes and dress a green candle with your favorite money, success, or luck oil. Light the candle and burn your favorite money incense. If possible leave the candle burning (safely!), and go to the interview.

SouthernGirl · Unread post by **SouthernGirl** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:08 pm

Thanks Cleopatra. I have been doing some basic protection and money spells during the day. Keep a blue, dressed candle for home tranquility going. Not that it's intranquil here, but maybe that's why

Those I usually start day or night and leave them going in a glass where they go for days.

Funny you mention a daytime job interview spell. Have been wanting/needing to earn extra cash and put in for a temporary/agency job. Got through most all of the hiring process and haven't heard anything. Even called a few times and there seemed to be confusion as to what stage of the hiring process I was in.

Sooooo... Two days ago, I did a money spell with green candles, three to be exact. Started them all at the same time, dressed the same way, etc. My little stones set out, whole dressed nutmeg. All prayed over. Well, one burned really much faster than the others, had "tears" running down the side and left a nasty little pile of wax. The second one, no tears, but a small mess. The third one burned out next and lasted a substantially longer period of time. No mess, burned clean. I was sort of hoping that was a sign that a good progression was happening, but was a bit concerned that I started it during the day and maybe messed it up.

This morning I get a call, they don't know why they haven't gotten me in sooner, all my hire process is complete and they want to know when I'm available to start orienting at different places in the next week or two so they can start sending me out for shifts. AWESOME! Had planned to continue money work tonight. Will change which spells I'm doing, but going to stay steady with it. So, in this instance, I don't think daytime hurt at all. Maybe I'll do one tonight and another in the morning, just in case

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:43 am

Hi SouthernGirl,
I do all kinds of work during the day and especially in the morning, many workers do.

good luck,
Bri

SouthernGirl · Unread post by **SouthernGirl** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:37 am

Thanks Bri,

I have really odd hours and up to now have done the majority of my work at night. 'Course, I'm pretty new and it's limited what I have been doing. So, it felt odd starting in the day. Good to know that either is fine. Will definitely open me up to doing more work.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:16 pm

Does anyone follow planetary influences for spell casting?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:01 pm

Some do, some don't. The Moon is the "planet" most commonly consulted for its influences in hoodoo. There have been hoodoo workers who have used astrology going back to at least the early 20th century, probably earlier. That's why we make Planetary and Zodiacal oils, incense, powders, and bath crystals at Lucky Mojo -- because some hoodoo practitoners do like to work with them.

See

http://luckymojo.com/planetary.html

and

http://luckymojo.com/zodiacal.html

for more information.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:19 am

Thanks cat. I am currently working during phases of the planets and see some success. I wanted to know if others in the community consider this timing more effective. I want to be an effective worker.

Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:58 am

Hi everyone,
I also have a question about working in the dawn, so I'd thought it would be right to post it here.
Since I live where the sun is up at four in the morning, is there restrictions about going to sleep after the work is done in hoodoo? Or is the importence only that the sun is rising not that you personally is starting a new day?
Also, similarly, is it important that you have been sleeping before you do the ritual?

Thanks to LM for the customer forums,
ida

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:48 pm

An easy way to work with planetary influences is to use the days of the week.
Here's a quick list:

Sunday (Sun) - Success, fame, healing, wealth, men
Monday (Moon) - Dreams, visions, psychic power, home, family, women
Tuesday (Mars) - Courage, power, energy, war, victory over enemies
Wednesday (Mercury) - Communication, messages, trickery, gambling, removing obstacles
Thursday (Jupiter) - Wealth, power, luck, knowledge, expansion
Friday (Venus) - Love, sex, beauty, luxury, money
Saturday (Saturn) - Work, limitations, obstacles

There are also deities, saints, angels, colors, numbers, herbs, etc. that correspond with each planet.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:48 pm

I have a question about using dawn and dusk with working...Im a historian and I do a lot of work with the revolutionary/civil war era. I was wondering do you think the reason baths are in the dawn period is because back in early america the african americans were slaves who had to work rigorous hours mainly day light to day break, and this is how they worked magical workings into their daily lives? I honestly dont know the answer at all just pondering from what I know historically and hope someone can fill me in

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:46 pm

Thanks Mama Micki. I have this list and have read it and trying to use the various planetary influences. I want to be effective and when one thing doesn't bring results, I try another and the planetary influences work.

loveliesbleeding · Unread post by **loveliesbleeding** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:00 am

How important are the waxing and waning moon phases to working tricks? I know its big in wicca and other traditions but i have also read that rootwork is way more flexible than that and you can work something regardless of the moonphase; especially if its really urgent.

What's your take on this?

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:47 am

I don't know if Cat covers this in her book; I ordered it but haven't received it yet. Most spellbooks have correspondence tables that you can use to enhance your spells. The key word is "enhance." Don't worry about everything being perfectly aligned; if you do, you'll never attempt anything. A simple spell can work as well, often better, than a complicated one.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:17 am

If you want to work with moonphases, but it's the "wrong time," adjust the focus of your spell. For example, if you want to increase your money and don't want to wait until the waxing moon, work on clearing obstacles to prosperity and getting rid of poverty.

loveliesbleeding · Unread post by **loveliesbleeding** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:36 pm

actually I'd like to kind of like to ignore the moonphases altogether and just do some urgent work.

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:04 pm

meyoufools wrote:actually I'd like to kind of like to ignore the moonphases altogether and just do some urgent work.

Then do it, do work when it needs doing, if you can wait to work with the moon,well that's great,if not then go do your work and have faith.

loveliesbleeding · Unread post by **loveliesbleeding** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:30 pm

Thanks so much Haildiscordia, I really do appreciate your answers.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:00 pm

Timing is just an enhancement. The most important thing is your intent and focus.

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:22 pm

j82 wrote:I have a question about using dawn and dust with working...Im a historian and I do a lot of work with the revolutionary/civil war era. I was wondering do you think the reason baths are in the dawn period is because back in early america the african americans were slaves who had to work rigorous hours mainly day light to day break, and this is how they worked magical workings into their daily lives? I honestly dont know the answer at all just pondering from what I know historically and hope someone can fill me in

Hi J82,
I like your theory, and it certainly might explain why using the sun's arc in Hoodoo timing has remained such a solid tradition, but I personally suspect that syncing magical work up to the sun's movement is almost as old as humanity is

Its a big, bright, beautiful celestial body and there are multiple traditions that both worshipped the sun and used its arc to time all kinds of things, so I have always felt that this is a very, very, ancient piece of work that is still preserved in modern Conjure practice.

Bri

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:08 am

Does anyone know when Mercury retrograde is in effect? Is there a calendar on the web as a resource? Also I was reading about Mercury going direct...what does this mean? What type of spells should be casted during this time?

SilverStar · Unread post by **SilverStar** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:54 am

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/merc_ret.html

BUT it is better to use a software like at astro.com, because you can only get the exact dates if the software takes into consideration the place where you live. Otherwise these tables can be a day off. The next Mercury retrograde will start in early September.

Mercury retrogrades can affect (mess up) communication. However, retrogrades of any sort can be times of revisiting, so a Merc retro can bring back people you lost contact with.

Mercury is direct = it stops being retrograde.

I'm not sure this stuff is used in hoodoo, but I love astrology

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:12 pm

The best types of spells to cast during mercury retrograde are break up spells to mess up communication.

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:39 pm

Hey there Mama Micki. Thanks so much for your list! It is very helpful & i have taken note of it.

butterfly

butterfly2 · Unread post by **butterfly2** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:52 am

hi lm fam. im trying to get a laymen's understanding of when to do which kind of work (ex:breakup, draw love, send enemy away, get a good job, increase money, ignite passion with lover, gain wisdom, gain clarity, remove negative influences around me, remove curses off me or another, cleanse myself, protect myself & home, blessing, etc.) with certain moon phases (new, full, waxing, waning, etc.) & its still rather confusing.

can soemone sorta break this down for me?

thanks,
butterfly

Unread post by **Chagrinedgirl** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:42 pm

Bringing good things to you (like money or love work)=waxing moon (since it's getting bigger); getting rid of things, enemy work = waning moon (since it's dwindling away.)

Anzu2 · Unread post by **Anzu2** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:02 pm

The instructions on my Hot Foot Vigil light say to light this candle "on the dark of the moon". What exactly is that, and how can I find out when the next one is?

Thanks

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:25 pm

The next new moon is on July 21st at 7:35 pm Pacific Daylight Time. Usually the dark of the moon is considered to be up to three days before the new moon, although may also refer to the time a couple of days after when the moon is not visible.

Anzu2 · Unread post by **Anzu2** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:31 pm

Thank you

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:28 am

Anyone working with the moon phases know the significance of the lunar eclipse in spell casting?

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:53 am

It depends on who you ask. Some say it is a dangerous time to cast spells. Some say it is more powerful.

This New Year's Eve not only falls on the day of a lunar eclipse, but it also a blue moon and the start of a new decade. Should be interesting!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:32 am

I read about that cleopatra... Thanks for the input...others?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:47 pm

So if you burn a road opener candle during this phase of the moon (wanning) not good? right?

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:52 pm

jwmcclin wrote:So if you burn a road opener candle during this phase of the moon (wanning) not good? right?

Actually, I have done very succesful road opening work during the waning moon, as the moon wanes the roadblock in your way is reduced until there is nothing left.

Generally speaking, rules regarding timing in conjure work are not as strict as they are in other magical systems--we do work as it needs to be done--certain moon phases for certain kinds of work are suggested but certainly not required. And, if the moon is not working in your favor at the time you need to do a certain spell you can always use the planetary hours instead.

take care,
Bri

Dimples03 · Unread post by **Dimples03** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:38 pm

Do I have to neccessarily start my uncrossing bath on a new moon? when i do the uncrossing kit, do i have to walk some of the bath water to the cross roads like the hysopp bath? should i clean my floors before or after the bath and kit?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:56 pm

Working by the Moon is one form of timing, but there are many other ways as well. Waning Moons are for decrease, Waxing for increase, but road opening can be either -- open roads for an increase in money or open roads to get away or decrease the impact from a bad marriage -- just for a couple of examples.

Disposal of bathwater at a crossroads is traditional, as is disposal tword the rising Sun.

You may use a bit of your bath water as an addition to your floorwash water and then wash and clean the house as well.

honey · Unread post by **honey** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:43 am

If a spell is lasting x number of days, is it ideal to start the spell on the day that corresponds with the work (Tuesday enemy work, Friday love, etc.) or end the spells on that day?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:37 pm

its is ideal to start the work on the day that goes a long with the goal. And the number of days depends on the goal and adds some more power to the spell because your repeating it over a certain amount of days.

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:56 pm

honey wrote:If a spell is lasting x number of days, is it ideal to start the spell on the day that corresponds with the work (Tuesday enemy work, Friday love, etc.) or end the spells on that day?

I time my work to start on the appropriate day--like love work on Friday, but and then I finish it during the appropriate planetary hour. So if I was doing a 9 day love spell I would start it on a Friday, and end it on the following Saturday during the hour of venus.

take care,
Bri

path2success · Unread post by **path2success** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:40 am

With a solar eclipse coming this week just wondering if it affects magic in anyway. I just read somewhere that it is the best time for magic but would also like opinion from experienced ppl here. Eg : If we have already started a spell and this happens to be one of the day in the spell are there any good/bad effects?

honey · Unread post by **honey** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:13 pm

Good to know, thank you.

rickets · Unread post by **rickets** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:21 pm

Tuesday is a good day for any work. Monday is also good because it opens the road to opportunities, thats not just for Papa Legba in haitian vodou.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:51 am

The eclipse starts tonight Jul 21, 2009 at 11:58 pm GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) and ends tomorrow at 5:12 am GMT. It will be a total solar eclipse and the longest that will occur in the 21st century. It will be visible in northern India, eastern Nepal, southern China, and the Pacific Ocean, including Calcutta, Delhi, Kathmandu, and Shanghai.

To convert GMT to time zones in the US:
Pacific Daylight time subtract 7 hours
Mountain Daylight time subtract 6 hours
Central Daylight Time subtract 5 hours
Eastern Daylight Time subtract 4 hours

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:26 am

do you think is good idea to start a new honey jar tonight when the eclipse happens. i'm planning to do the second one.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:04 pm

tuesday is the day of war. it would be good for any kind of negative work or for physical power,and passion (with a violent aspect to it) but i do not think it would be a good day for love necessarily or reconcilation

justme99 · Unread post by **justme99** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:48 pm

I need help w/ a positive thinking spell & a love spell for the eclipse

MaJiG_GarDen · Unread post by **MaJiG_GarDen** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:30 pm

starsinthesky7 wrote:tuesday is the day of war. it would be good for any kind of negative work or for physical power,and passion (with a violent aspect to it) but i do not think it would be a good day for love necessarily or reconcilation

the full moon in july was on a tuesday and thats when i did a reconciliation spell. what you just said..would that mean the spell wasn't effective enough even though it was during a full moon??

keeperoftherubyshoes · Unread post by **keeperoftherubyshoes** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:56 pm

Here's some info from one of my resources- hope it is helpful

Full Moon
This is a time when the Moon is at its most powerful, and the magic most potent. Performing any positive spell at this time will achieve good results. Since the full moon only truly occurs for one night out of the entire lunar cycle, it can be hard to fit it into your schedule. You can harness the energy of the full moon for about 2 days before or after the night the moon is truly full.
Spells: Artistic projects, love, romance, fertility, psychic abilities or making decisions. Also healing, guidance, and completion spells.

MaJiG_GarDen · Unread post by **MaJiG_GarDen** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:14 pm

keeperoftherubyshoes wrote:Here's some info from one of my resources- hope it is helpful
Full Moon
This is a time when the Moon is at its most powerful, and the magic most potent. Performing any positive spell at this time will achieve good results. Since the full moon only truly occurs for one night out of the entire lunar cycle, it can be hard to fit it into your schedule. You can harness the energy of the full moon for about 2 days before or after the night the moon is truly full.
Spells: Artistic projects, love, romance, fertility, psychic abilities or making decisions. Also healing, guidance, and completion spells.

ooh ok i understand now..
thank youuu

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:24 am

Hi Justme,

So on this forum what we do is help folks learn what Lucky Mojo products are best for them and how to use them. Your question is too general for us to really be able to help you in an effective manner. Try rephrasing it, giving us some details about what you are trying to accomplish, and we will be able to recommend some formulas that may assist you.

good luck,
Bri