Spells to Heal Angry Negative Depressed Parents and Elders

Ariel10 · Unread post by **Ariel10** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:43 pm

Buzzbabe, I've been WORKING since i was 15 years old. I don't WAIT or EXPECT anyone to give me EVERYTHING i need in life, I GO GET IT MYSELF. Needing help is 1 thing but when you are milking the system every which way you can for everything YEAH i got a problem with it! I pay taxes too. Yeah people grow up on the wrong side of the tracks, that's life, that's where i grew! I don't DEPEND on the state for ANY of my needs. You can drop it in the club, hang in the streets, the bar 5, 6 days a week, why the hell can't you get a job & support yourself!

Everyone else, thanks for your help.

buzzbabe · Unread post by **buzzbabe** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:30 pm

Bianca70 wrote:Buzzbabe, I've been WORKING since i was 15 years old. I don't WAIT or EXPECT anyone to give me EVERYTHING i need in life, I GO GET IT MYSELF. Needing help is 1 thing but when you are milking the system every which way you can for everything YEAH i got a problem with it! I pay taxes too. Yeah people grow up on the wrong side of the tracks, that's life, that's where i grew! I don't DEPEND on the state for ANY of my needs. You can drop it in the club, hang in the streets, the bar 5, 6 days a week, why the hell can't you get a job & support yourself!

Everyone else, thanks for your help.

Pretty much the same thing can be said about tax-cheats

I would prefer that someone milk the system than milk me. Do you really think that if all those welfare cheats got up and got a job that there would be work available for them? Or that wages would stay the same instead of gong down with additional people enter the work-force?

Ariel10 · Unread post by **Ariel10** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:49 pm

True buzb but I'm not talking about ALL, I'm talking about this 1 in particular who is reeking havoc in several peoples lives, ruining her own child in the process. I seriously doubt that those depending on the state for everything would find a job, true. I know all of them would not even attempt to find a job. SOME of those people actually need the help but some of them don't. You can't blame it all on circumstance, i grew up in the hood, single mother raising kids with no help, no state help! People have different mentalities.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:54 pm

Lets side aside the personal annotations about poverty, taxes, and such and focus on the question at hand.

Bianca, work with getting a protective agent inovled. You can either try petitioning Saint Michael or her Holy Guardian Angel. Or you can seek out the ancestors of this girl, get a bit of graveyard dirt and work that in your conjure to get things moving.

Put up FWP against the mother, use binding conjure to keep her from harming her daughter anymore, then work Court Case conjure to help the dad win custody. Don't cut the mother out completely, but it may be best to have the daughter with her father from now on.

No more powerful clarity, then actually loosing someone you love. From there if you feel for this woman you can use Clarity products, but I'd use this after I did everything else. The main concern is the girl involved.

Ariel10 · Unread post by **Ariel10** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:30 am

Yes Cm you are correct and i thank you for your help. I had a reading with Mother Mystic on some issues and she suggested some of things you suggested, thank you Mother Mystic! There is so much more i could have posted about this situation but i think I've posted enough about it. The situation is bad and the dad did file papers for full custody.

spinningredjet · Unread post by **spinningredjet** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:17 am

So, to clarify, the connection I am picking up from your account with my situation seems to be an "unhealthy bonding on the part of your sister, and perhaps others, with someone who repeatedly causes pain". This is one way of defining a so called "Betrayal Bond" or exploitive relationship. You may want to check out the work of Patrick Carnes on Betrayal Bonds which is quite thorough in articulating the various traumatic coping strategies a victim of this kind of relationship may develop.The bottom line is "a certain dysfunctional attachment that occurs in the presence of danger, shame or exploitation. There is always some form of danger or risk" (Carnes). Then you could get clear on how to work it out using using the techniques espoused here i (n this forum.

For instance, in my case, I discovered that the the root cause of my ongoing, lived pain (trauma) was and is "invalidation" (Betrayal) which is inherently and deeply shameful because one wants what all the other little boys and girls have, authentically loving parents. The danger or risk, in my case, has been and is merely in returning at all into the presence of my mother (someone who should, is beholden to, make one strong but who instead makes one weak). The one thing I have had to figure out for myself was how I was being exploited if all I was being was invalidated. Exploitation means the exploiter is benefiting from the victim in some way, not simply trying to get them to leave or stay away. Beyond the exploitative benefit of niggardliness financial and emotional (money stays in her pocket, emotional energy stays too) I learned that I benefited my mother by simply remaining quiet (she benefits by not having to be accountable for obviously and gauchely defaulting on a major life role and responsibility). I am supposed to show up occasionally which benefits her in as much as she can feel, "Oh, you see, everything is well and OK and I haven't done anything wrong." So, in my case, some kind of "breaK and clear" work might be in order but that feels merely defensive when I still feel some offensive energy in me regarding this. Of course, my control of the relationship dynamics now i.e. distance, contact and communication is probably hurtful enough, offensive enough to her (this is probably why I have calmed down considerably and am making progress) not because she needs to see me but because she is not getting her "fix" of guilt resolution. So in deed, protective work and charging my own battery might be good enough for me and hurtful enough for her to satisfy the debt.

Anyway, I highly recommend the work by Carnes to figure out what sounds like quite a sticky and horrid situation (mess) you are in. As I read through your post, I can feel just how hurtful all of this must be for you and your daughter.

Lux1084 · Unread post by **Lux1084** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:09 pm

Ok my situation may seem a little odd...

I am going to be 26 and am living at home with my parents. I was laid off from my job a while back and am actively looking for another. I pay all my own bills except I don't have to pay board.

The problem is my parents act like i'm 16, it's so frustrating and embarrassing. I cant do things people my age do. They give me a hard time about spending the night over my friends' houses after going out on weekends, etc. I never bring people over cause my parents, especially my mom, are so nosey and will try to pump my friends on info about me, since they are just naturally suspicious.

I'm a hard worker and am getting freelance work, (I'm a writer) and was doing part-time work before being laid off. I don't do drugs or go out every night drinking. I try to help around the house running errands and doing chores, but nothing is ever enough. I have never gotten in trouble with the law or have been a problem child in anyway. They act like I'm committing a crime by dressing the way I want and not dating the guys they want. I always gotten good grades and went to college. My mom acts like I do nothing but lounge around, (which is not true at all) and my dad just is overly controlling and can border on abusive.

It's has been this way all my life and several relationships I have had suffered due to it. They were the same way with my brothers and neither of them speak to my parents. But my parents refuse to see it's them, they act like they have been wonderful parents (which they have have been in some aspects).

If I do something that angers my mom (like we were out shopping, she didn't have her phone or watch so I was suppose to meet her back at the one store at a certain time and I lost track of time, well she threw such a fit and basically acted like I did it on purpose and told me i'm a horrible daughter and then decided to tell my dad to basically get me in trouble with him, I know it sounds absurd. She tries to punish me and them won't speak to me till she feels like it.

I try to be understanding cause her mom is dying and my brother is going to rehab, but it gets difficult.

I also have been seeing a guy on and off, for the past three years, they don't like, so I basically have to hide that I'm still seeing him so I can actually spend time with him without dealing with them giving me a very hard time.

He got in trouble when he was about 22 (way before I met him) but that was ten years ago and he turned his life around since and has always been very open with me about it. I love him very much and he loves me and I want to be with him. We have a good relationship, which yeah, we had rough patches but every couple does and we always work things out.

I just hate having to lie about being with him and just want my parents to let me live my life and I am trying to get my own place. And to accept that I am going to be with this person and just to let me go.

They would basically cut me off for keeping this from them and for being with him. They want me to be with a doctor type and I just don't care about wealth or social status when it comes to love.

I have been trying to keep my head and not let them stop me anymore and just bide my time till I get a job and my own place and then just tell them about me and him but I feel like I'm just being held back in getting a job.

I just want to know if there is anything I can do to help this situation to get them off my back, etc.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:09 pm

I would use a Peaceful Home honey-jar with you and them inside of it. Give it time to work and see how far they mellow. If you don't see a big improvement in 3 months, then you may wish to get a reading.

However, in addition to the honey jar, I would do some Steady Work work for yourself to try and get yourself a good enough job that you can move out on your own!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:04 am

Make it your highest priority to move out; get a job, move in with friend, rent a room, etc. Live your own life and don't let your parents control you. It is really a question of will; are you going to bend to your parents' will or do you have the strength to be on your own? When you say they may "cut you off" do you mean that they would refuse to support you now or would they disinherit you? Unless they are wealthy, it just isn't worth being intimidated by them. Even if they are rich, there is a good chance that at your young age you could surpass them financially.

Do what creative people have always done; get a day job until you make it. Being in the "real world" may also give you some ideas for your writing.

I recommend Wealthy Way, Steady Work, and some type of formula to take control such as Compelling, Controlling, Essence of Bendover, Master, etc.

Lux1084 · Unread post by **Lux1084** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:29 pm

thank you so much for responding and for your advice.

I have been done some work, like the steady work candle etc for finding a job and it was seeming to go in the right direction than like putters out.

ive been doing several things since january for finding work and recently started working with st expedite. I have seen signs and got one reading where the person told me between february and march. I'm actively looking and constantly following up on jobs but no luck.

as for my parents and bf, I'm definetly going to pick up some peaceful home and bend over products.

it isnt that i'm worried they'll cut me off, i pretty much completely support myself as it is, its more reprogramming my thinking that I'm not obligated in the sense that I have to please them or do what makes them happy, to just because they're my parents. My parents have basically, especially my mom, just really have tried mold me into what they want me to be my whole life. And also for me being okay with them not having anything to do with me because I'm not living my life the way they want me too.

As for working, I have been even trying to get jobs other than writing, I did have a job as a cocktail waitress but got laid off. I'm even trying to maybe get two part time jobs. Ive gotten interviews but its like somethings holding me back from actually getting a job.

I guess another reading is in store. I've also try to do cleansing baths every so often and before I start new work. Its like things will start looking up than take a nosedive.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:32 pm

Hey, lux, i am a writer, and i am going to be very blunt with you. It's a tough business to break into. Start by writing a LOT more, on a blog, if no one will hire you, and write on many different subjects, to show you can do it. In the meantime, get work like you said, as a waitress, doing gardening, whatever you enjoy. Then write about it! That's right -- write in your blog about your other jobs.

Good luck!

route95 · Unread post by **route95** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:27 pm

So for years I've suspected that my mom was involved in magick, but not until I started getting more familiar with hoodoo myself I have been able to put two and two together. Today I found her herb stash - stocked by a magick store with the name blacked out!

I normally wouldnt care but she is making EVERYONE'S life a living hell here. I was able to escape temporarily, but I'm back home for now and I'm not really sure what I can do while I'm at home. She is just MISERABLE. She makes the whole house a stressful place and it's affecting my dad's health. He busts his butt to support my family and she only pays him back with mean words. She is emotionally abusive not only to me but others and just is so SELFISH.

What can I do to try and calm things down? She often rants and raves about other women doing witchcraft on her and cursing her, but I think the more involved she's gotten with this stuff the more miserable she has been making herself. I *just* made an LM order and I have no job, so I can't get a reading on this until I am employed (which could take another 5 years at this rate), but I would love any advice on what I could do to counteract all this negativity she brings in this home!

She just stays home all day with the occasional trip to the magick store and it's driving me crazy. I need to get out, but I want to try and do what I can for my younger sister and father, who are in this much longer than me.

Thanks in advance!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:47 pm

Sounds like an extremely good case for a mirror box and binding combined! Make sure to do lots of cleansing work and protection work for yourself and everyone else along with it.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:16 pm

Think positive. Do some protection work (with Uncrossing and Protection products) and some job-getting work (with Steady Work products) for yourself. Don't focus on her negativity, look instead to your own strong future.

route95 · Unread post by **route95** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:02 pm

jujugiggles wrote:Sounds like an extremely good case for a mirror box and binding combined! Make sure to do lots of cleansing work and protection work for yourself and everyone else along with it.

As yes! Thank you for the suggestions. For some reason I didn't think of those. I'll get on those ASAP.

catherineyronwode wrote:Think positive. Do some protection work (with Uncrossing and Protection products) and some job-getting work (with Steady Work products) for yourself. Don't focus on her negativity, look instead to your own strong future.

Thank you. I just got my triple strength job getting mojo today and will be going to the bank tomorrow so I can get my $2 bill, get my job, and move the heck out so I can work on improving myself. The stress from being in the same house as her can be a bit overwhelming. I'll definitely use the money from the new job to help my sister and dad who will be stuck with her a bit longer.

allofthemwitches · Unread post by **allofthemwitches** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:42 am

I wrote the following, as part of my autobiography (telling my own story is important) about a year ago. Unemployment was good to me. I got to work on things that I needed to start doing (gym, learning to cook, spending quality time with my child, etc.). After about six months I was hired into a non-profit that helps teenagers with their education and work skills. I like my coworkers and the work that I do.

That said. My mom's situation has not improved. She's basically given up on life over the last decade and a half. She has no energy, is always sick, and keeps getting caught in new medication cycles. I live across the state. We haven't always been close, but I worry about her. I especially worry about her marriage and what might happen if my step dad finally decides he's had enough and calls it quits. My younger sister just graduated from college, so now would be an ideal opportunity. I can't say anything to her. It'll just lead to a fight and, potentially, conflict with my step-father. What kind of work can I do to help her. Preferably from a distance. We talk weekly, but keep the conversation in the safe zone. Like I said, we don't have an ideal relationship, but this is the best it's been in years.

Any advice will be appreciated.

Regards,
Bryan

(Autobiography excerpt: Removed)

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:53 am

I'm sorry to hear about your mother's state. I would suggest that you have a reading with a professional rootworker so that they can take a deep look into the spiritual side of things through divination, and help give you a specific plan to start helping her based on her needs as shown by the reading.

You can find a list of skilled rootworkers at http://www.readersandrootworkers.org.

In the meantime cleansing work with products such as 13-Herb Bath, and Chinese Wash for the home can help start chipping away at the negative energy that has built up around her and is no doubt contributing to her chronic case. You can then work Healing for her, by lighting candles, giving her Healing bath salts, etc. You may also wish to petition St. Dymphna as she is the patron to those with mental wellness challenges and nervous disorders. LM sells a lovely line of St. Dymphna products that you can use for that. Another saint you may wish to petition is the Blessed Dr. Jose Gregorio Hernandez who is fantastic at helping people find the health care practitioners and treatments that will actually work for them, so they can be healed. Again, LM has a line of his products as well. I've worked with St. Dympha and the Blessed Doctor with very good results many times.

Peaceful Home Herbs Mixture is a old-fashioned mix of 4 happy home herbs dressed with 2 peaceful family oils; use it to dress candles, burn with incense, scatter as floor or yard sprinkles, brew bath-teas and floor washes, carry in mojo hands and conjure bags, hide in bed-packets, or include within bottle, jar, bowl, box, or freezer spells.

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You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.

For more information, see:
http://www.luckymojo.com/peacefulhome.htmlGood luck.

Also, you may wish to consider looking into naturopathic care since you seem unhappy with the allopathic care. In some depression cases imbalances in diet, vitamins, minerals, etc that don't often get tested or taken into consideration in regular care can be identified by holistic practitioners.

Best of luck.

allofthemwitches · Unread post by **allofthemwitches** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:14 am

Devi,
Thank you for the informative response. My primary concern, regarding implementation, is that any work I do will have to be secret and performed from a distance. She is very closed minded about alternative belief systems, and I would say she's a Total Christian Television believer. In other words, no good would come from her knowing that I'm putting the hoodoo to work. My family was Catholic as a child, but she has since had a Falling out (had something to do with divorce). Anyways, working in the shadows is key, she's been everywhere with regards to check ups (including the Mayo Clinic). Medicine makes her feel good, but seems to cause more problems than it solves. I'm not looking for an overnight fix, just something to nudge her on the right path and provide her the self-confidence to make the changes herself. I cannot be open about this work.

waterlily · Unread post by **waterlily** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:50 am

You may want to work on getting her out of the environment for a week or two or even a full month if you can aford to have her over at your place. I dont know but maybe some of the pros here can come up with products that can sweeten you to her and thereby cooperate with your suggestion to remove her from the same environment for a while. Most patients in such situations require proper reevaluation by one physician who can look at what has been done. I am all for patient empowerment but in cases like your mothers someone may need to temporarily take over aand be in charge of their meds, at least during times when they seem to be going downhill. Work with the above mentioned saints for success in spiritual work and medical guidance. Cleansing first then all the healing and top notch medical care can be implemented. Hope your love for your mother, and your efforts will bring a resolution and/or at least peace of mind to all involved.

allofthemwitches · Unread post by **allofthemwitches** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:15 am

Thanks waterlily. Your suggestion about having my mom visit makes a lot of sense, however, she won't travel long distances and refuses to drive on highways. If I want to see her, we have to cross the State to visit. I'll look into the above suggestions regarding petitioning saints. It's a complicated scenario, but I'd like to try something. My stepdad was supposed to be monitoring her medication, and weaning her off, but as far as I know that experiment ended a while back (not sure of the details). I'm a real outsider, my mom and stepdad basically built their new life despite the fact that I was still in the home (when I was a teenager). I'm not a blood relative (to my stepdad) and always got the feeling that I wasn't welcome in their attempt to start over. I've no doubt that my mom carries guilt about it. I've forgiven her and moved on knowing that our relationship is probably all that it ever be. Doesn't stop me from caring though.

What's the best way to send a spell long distance?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:16 am

Well, you can do egg cleansings on her pictures to help spiritually clean her. You could also construct a dolly of her using some of her hair (you can get that from her hairbrush on your next visit) and that way you can then work directly on her by proxy. But you can certainly burn dressed candles on her picture to keep energy going her way, or make a Healing/Blessing bottle spell that you can work on an ongoing basis for her. There are plenty of things you can do without actually being there or having her participation.

If you think she'll use them, even if it's just from time to time, you can gift her with a jar that has Uncrossing or Healing bath crystals in it. Just tell them they are bath salts - which they are. Then when she uses them she will get the spiritual benefit.

Of course, you can also hire a rootworker to work on her behalf as well.

allofthemwitches · Unread post by **allofthemwitches** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:53 am

Thanks again. I'll come up with a plan (based on the advice from this thread) and share it prior to ordering supplies. Cat's book is scheduled to arrive today, so that'll be another resource to consult. Appreciate the advice.

Regards,
Bryan

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:29 pm

If you can, as Devi Spring suggested, Please get a reading with a rootworker.

http://www.readersandrootworkers.org.

This will help you to find the best route into helping her and yourself. They can prescribe or suggest spell work that will have the best chance at results for the situation. You can also hire them to do the work for you that way you do not have to hide anything or feel sneaky. As well as have the benefit of someone experienced casting on your behalf.

Love, Light and Blessings to you.

movingmountains · Unread post by **movingmountains** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:29 am

How do you do an egg cleansing with a photo?? If anyone can shine some light

I know a black eggg (i think it's called) is recommended but can it also be done with a normal carton egg?

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:36 am

movingmountains wrote:How do you do an egg cleansing with a photo?? If anyone can shine some light

I know a black eggg (i think it's called) is recommended but can it also be done with a normal carton egg?

It is a black hen's egg that you are speaking about--not a black egg but rather an egg laid by a black hen, and that is the traditional type of egg used for cleansing in Hoodoo. You can order one from LMC here:
http://herb-magic.com/black-hen-egg.html

Other magical traditions have other egg cleansing rites and you would need to consult with practitioners in those fields to learn if regular carton eggs would work. When I perform egg cleansings on clients I only use eggs from black hens myself.

As far as how to work with it, well typically eggs are run over the body of the person, accompanied by prayers, blessings, often other herbs, roots, and washes.

blessings,
Bri

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:29 am

In reference to the 13 herb spirtual bath mentioned by Devi Springs... you can brew the 13 herb bath and place drops of it in her lotions, wash her clothes, even wash her floors. (http://www.herb-magic.com/13herb-bath-one.html)
Here is the link to Saint Dymphna: http://www.luckymojo.com/saintdymphna.html

Here is the link to the bath salts http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatbaths.html; scroll down and you will see several healing/blessing type baths. There is a Saint Dymphna spirtual bath as well toward the middle of the page.

Good Luck in your work allofthemwitches.

Charisma · Unread post by **Charisma** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:40 am

Need advise on how to approach situation.

My hubby's ex, with whom he has kids, has been selling her food stamps and refusing to feed kids and we just recently found out she has been abusing them because of who their father is and saying many ugly things to the kids about us. The kids are tired of her and want her to go away but she is using them as a weapon because she is on a power trip.

Out of the 4 different baby daddies, my hubby is the only one that comes around and do the things that a parent is suppose to do. So he gets the backlash for the deadbeats. She has a 1 yr old as well who goes begging for food for lack of it in the home.

She is just a very evil person and is claiming to be holy but all that have encountered her have nothing but negative experiences with her. 11 years she has caused nothing but problems for us.

She just recently went to jail for doing a terrible thing to someone.

We have 1 of the kids and waiting for court order to be signed so we can all appear in court.

Actions I've taken:

Burned St.Michael, froze her in vinegar pill bottle, vinegar bag, placed her in lemon, placed it in jar of salt w/vinegar and threw in bayou.

I need to "TRUMP" this situation and get her to be scared to come around us and to leave the kids alone. I also need to assure the judge see favor for my husband to have custody. I bought a LM court case for judge & LM bend over for her.

Please give me advice on how to get rid of her or get her off our back or to just send a solid sound off message to her. I'm willing to put in the work just need direction.

She has a brother who is making this situation his own and I need advice on what to do to him, looking for a nicety way, but really not opposed to Crossing him.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.

Charisma

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:09 pm

You can get a reading on the best way to proceed at
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org

Stop Gossip for the brother:
http://luckymojo.com/stopgossip.html
and
http://luckymojo.com/products-stop-gossip.html

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:22 pm

As Mama Micki noted, the brother can be handled with Stop Gossip work, using Stop Gossip spiritual supplies. Recite the 37th Psalm while using these.

The husband's ex is a real bad piece of work. I know you are fighting her spiritually and you are having an effect. Working with Saint Michael is great. I would add some straight-out old-fashioned Court Case work, and also bring in the spirit of King Solomon, as he was the famous Judge who made sure that the baby went to the good mother and not to the evil mother, if you remember your Bible, First Kings 3:16-28.

Court Case Spells and Spiritual Supplies:
http://luckymojo.com/courtcase.html
and
http://luckymojo.com/products-court-case.html

King Solomon Wisdom Spells and Spiritual Supplies:
http://luckymojo.com/kingsolomonwisdom.html
and
http://luckymojo.com/products-king-solo ... -case.html

BlessedOne · Unread post by **BlessedOne** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:10 am

I really need advice on what I can do to help the situation between my mom and brother. They live together with my brother's wife and 3 year old daughter. For the last 3 years, things have gotten from occasionally hostile to outright open hostility amongst all the 3 adults, but especially from my brother towards my mother. His wife is not helping matters as the coward and manipulative b*tch she is is making my mother the scapegoat for everything that happens in the home and she is even teaching her very young child to turn against my mother. My mother does all the housework including cooking her meals and serving them to her, and even her laundry and ironing would you believe that.

My brother has had some serious medical problems the last few years and I suspect that's adding to his already volatile temperament.

Things have gotten so bad that my 70 year old mother is suffering from depression (other than other physical pains) and wants to move out to stay on her own. My brother is being very abusive towards her. My greatest fear is her inability to take care of herself. I know that many older folks are independent in the west, but I am asian, and the family structure is somewhat different and also creates a certain level of emotional dependency on each other, sometimes regardless of how poor the situation is. So what I want is advice on how I can help the situation between my brother and my mother where the practical option is Not for her to move out on her own.

Would the LM blue peace candle help? Catherine advised the Stop Gossip candle for my brother's wife before and I will combine it with any other candle that can help my brother's disposition towards my mom. I am looking for a powerful solution because this situation is really driving me to despair and I cannot bear seeing how they are both in their own turmoil but especially my mom and I am helpless. Talking to my brother has not helped because I get yelled at and it exacerbates the situation.

Appreciate any advice anyone can give to this critical situation. Thank you.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:18 am

This is an unfortunate situation, and actually your mother's well-being is the most important.

I would first start off by getting a consultation, and reading done to see what would be the best spellwork to help your situation.

A few products you can work with are

1) Peaceful home.
www.luckymojo.com/peacefulhome.html

2) I would do some protection work on your mother.
question-about-protection-spells-t10770.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/protectionspells.html

3) And I agree with Miss Cat about the stop gossip candle
www.luckymojo.com/freezer.html

4) I would do a honey jar for your mother, brother, and his wife so that they will be sweet towards each other. You can definitely do a peaceful home honey jar.

BlessedOne · Unread post by **BlessedOne** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:03 am

Thanks Starsinthesky7. I completely agree that my mom's well being is the most important - that is what is really bothering me.

I forgot to mention that I did have LM do a Peaceful home candle every other month in 2010, but it has not helped much. The candle reports came back a couple of times indicating that someone in the home does not want to have a peaceful situation. I am hard put to decide who because all of them have their issues and "axes to grind" with each other.

Anyway, thanks again, I will get the protection work, stop gossip and honey jar done first and see how it goes.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:50 am

I would get a reading done to see what else needs to be done, and your options.

www.readersandrootworkers.com

LaVetta · Unread post by **LaVetta** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:12 am

I'm the grand mother, as for now we all live in the same home. My daughter has been in an abusive relationship for the last 13 years. She is abusive to her children. I reported my daughter to Children and Family Child Protection. I need to know how to keep her in my home and not to move the children before I gain control of her situation. I want to keep the children with me and for my daughter to move out of this home. But only after control of the situation or my daughters behavior is in place.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:30 am

Hire an attorney to gain custody of the children. If you see your daughter abusing the children, call the police every time so there will be a record. Light an Archangel Michael or Guardian Angel candle and pray Psalm 91 for the children to protect them.

stelz · Unread post by **stelz** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:00 am

Mama Micki's right, work in the mundane and use the magic as a backup.

I think in most states, police are required to report abuse to Child Protection (CPS, DSS, it has different name anyplace you go.) Be prepared for this and make sure everything's clean (clutter is ok, nastiness isn't. Not saying that you have a nasty house, just that I know it can be hard to keep up with housework when there's turmoil in the family, so get your ducks in a row) and you don't have any alcohol in the house, even if it's just wine for cooking or an old bottle of liquor that's been sitting there for years "for company". If you're doing workings, make sure they're hide-able because a lot of people (including many CPS workers and judges) don't understand this stuff and think it's devil business and/or indicative of some psychological imbalance. Candles with images of saints are probably okay. Be subtle and don't let your daughter get any dirt on you, but be fearless! Or at least "don't let 'em see you sweat".

Don't scared to report the abuse, because in most cases, custody WILL be awarded to a willing relative. The key here is persistence. Best of luck to you.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:46 am

When you have taken actions mentioned above on the mundane levels you can proceed with the following:

Do some covert cleansing and use Cast Of Evil products on your daughter using a doll and her personal effects. Especially when she is with him. Make sure it is well hidden so that she will never find it. If that goes well and you see changes after 3-6 months of work you proceed to Protection, I dominate My Man products and slowly move towards Separation and Break Up between them if she shows signs of becomming happier and stronger. Going for Break Up or Separation right away will only stir more trouble.

Use plenty of Peaceful Home Products, Cast of Evil Products and Protection Products inside your house and make sure you cleanse the floors with Chinese Wash and Buffalo Ammonia at least twice a week. Put Camphor squares in the kids room and sneak some of those products into their laundry as well. Some fresh, whilte lillies in their room or on the kitchen table once a month might be good habit to start as well.

Try to do everything as discrete at possible and do not let anyone know what you are doing.

LaVetta · Unread post by **LaVetta** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:27 pm

Thank you Johannes, this is the type of help I'm looking for; I've been collecting her hair, I want to make a doll, but I'm not sure what to use as stuffing.

Johannes wrote:When you have taken actions mentioned above on the mundane levels you can proceed with the following:

Do some covert cleansing and use Cast Of Evil products on your daughter using a doll and her personal effects. Especially when she is with him. Make sure it is well hidden so that she will never find it. If that goes well and you see changes after 3-6 months of work you proceed to Protection, I dominate My Man products and slowly move towards Separation and Break Up between them if she shows signs of becomming happier and stronger. Going for Break Up or Separation right away will only stir more trouble.

Use plenty of Peaceful Home Products, Cast of Evil Products and Protection Products inside your house and make sure you cleanse the floors with Chinese Wash and Buffalo Ammonia at least twice a week. Put Camphor squares in the kids room and sneak some of those products into their laundry as well. Some fresh, whilte lillies in their room or on the kitchen table once a month might be good habit to start as well.

Try to do everything as discrete at possible and do not let anyone know what you are doing.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:32 am

Stuff it with Eucalyptus leafs, Peppermint, Sage, Hyssop and other clensers. Or with Cast of Evil Incense power. If in doubt, use some of her used clothing as stuffing and work the products on the surface of the doll.

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:24 pm

My own mother verbally abuses me daily. Everything I do is WRONG in her eyes. She NAGS at everything. She gives me so much put downs and I've just had it. She negatively gives me criticism that really stabs me in the heart and soul all the time. I can't take it anymore. Please anyone help me counter this. Ever since I was a teen she would always put her stress on me. Her words are so deep and evil. I care about my mom but like she said in her own words, she sees "nothing" good in me.

I'm a college student, trying to make it in life. She expects way too much from me. What should I do?

SAM77 · Unread post by **SAM77** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:23 pm

hi there my mum was like that too please dont allow her to do this to you its not good for you inside or out I moved out and I see them once in a while and that seems to work if I talk to her and she starts to verbally abuses I just tell mum IAM going and if you are not going to be nice Iam not gonig to listen to this you must draw the line all the best

Unread post by **aura** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:45 am

Hi beautiful,

this seems to be an issue with a long-standing history based on your previous thread:
mother-nags-and-starts-drama-too-much-t14825.html

As previously stated in the thread above, working with peaceful home products, peace water and starting a honey jar (Peaceful Home & Family, CALM DOWN RELATIVES Honey Jar Mini Hoodoo Spell Kit - http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html#honeyjar) with you and your mother in it are all excellent alternatives you would want to give a go to. You can read more detailed information about Peaceful Home products here: http://www.luckymojo.com/peacefulhome.html

Barring that, Sam77's advice is sound: move out and be firm on your emotional limits with your mother.

Finally, consider getting an AIRR member reading in order to ascertain the root issues which may be contributing to the situation: http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/in ... ootworkers; many have a lot of experience with family issues.

Blessings and best of luck.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:08 am

I would definitely work with Peaceful Home Spiritual Supplies on this one (aura posted links) ...The Honey Jar is a great backup to this work. Good Luck!

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:41 am

beautiful, you got some good advice on this and on the previous thread; have you followed it?

If you don't have enough privacy to burn a candle or work a honey jar at home, you might have to get a rootworker, such as the reputable folks at AIRR, to do it for you. That will cost money, however.

Unless your mother is constantly going through your closets and drawers, you should be able to keep some Peaceful Home and Stop Gossip supplies in your room for baths, sprinkling, and dropping into laundry, cleaning and grooming supplies.

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

AmaSarah · Unread post by **AmaSarah** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:19 am

My mom is not just a glass-half-empty type. It's completely empty. She is an extremely negative person who views the world with the same negativity. She spends the days complaining, criticizing and judging, sometimes muttering under her breath. She raised her children to believe that the world is full of thieves and crooks who are out to get you at every turn. She'll turn the smallest mishap into some global conspiracy against her. If I try to explain that perhaps a mistake was just made she'll lecture me for an hour on how I'm a naive child (I'm in my 40s) who needs to open her eyes and see the world for the way it is. I don't think I've seen my mother smile since 1992.

It's a daily battle for me to fend off her negativity but it's just impossible not to be affected. It's draining. My brothers rarely visit her because they say it takes days to recover from one afternoon.

Who am I to change her as a person but is there something I can do? It saddens me to see how unhappily she's gone through life.

thanks

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:50 am

Well, she's either like that because she's just a negative person and that's her nature, or she's had some awful experiences which have embittered her. It's probably a combination of the two. You won't be able to change her basic nature - some people are just naturally pessimsitic. But you can try to give her a measure of support for healing and happiness.

I'd go with a honey jar on this one to try and sweeten her mind. Use Reconciliation honey jar kit, as you're basically trying to Reconcile her with life! There are nice herbs in there for forgiveness and healing of old wounds, and fostering loving feelings. You can add some mint to it, as this helps cleanse away negative thoughts. Put some Althea, Angelcia, and Basil in there to help bring healing, empowerment, and peace to her.

I'd petition St. Dymphna to help ease and heal her mind, and perhaps to St. Thomas to help her let go of her pessimism and overly-critical nature.

If you are finding it very draining to be around her, make sure you wear some kind of protection when you go to visit, and cleanse yourself immediately upon getting home. This should help.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:39 am

Try Cast Off Evil also. Negative thoughts are the worst bad habit of all.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:01 pm

This is great advice by Devi Spring and Mama Micki.
If you are around her during the Holidays--OR ANY OTHER TIME-- Peace Water:
http://www.luckymojo.com/peacewater.html
and protect yourself as suggested by Devi.
Take care and Be Blessed!

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:10 pm

I have a relative like this and its a tough, tough situation. You need compassion and to send them blessings but you also need to draw clear boundaries. In my case when said relative sent a particularly negative email I emailed him back and told him-basically-that if he did not have anything nice to say he could keep his mouth shut. Your mom is your mom, but its your life and you have the right to tell her that her attitude is problematic for you, makes you feel crappy, and is in large part the reason you do not see her very often. Crucible of Courage and High John can help you with that. I would work with deerstongue to make her speech sweeter and kinder. And I would work with healing products to heal her of the perception that all is wrong with the world. Throwing in some clarity & wisdom is also a good idea.
Blessings,
Bri

Unread post by **Joann Lee** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:51 am

My grandmother was extremely negative since her husband died, until she was put on an anti-depressant. She is much better. You might not be able to put her on medication, but you can certainly pray to St. Dymphna and Dr. Jose Gregorio Hernandez for her to receive appropriate medical care.

Blood root is also good for easing problems with blood relations.

AmaSarah · Unread post by **AmaSarah** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:48 am

Wise women, all of you. Thank you for all your suggestions and words of wisdom.
Regards, AmaSarah

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:58 pm

Some people are not negative but have learned it as a way of socializing and means of getting attention fed. If you use spells that will draw other sources of attention, such as love drawing spells wich might provide a loving and attentiongiving partner you might notice swift changes of attitude. Without having to use any cleansing products at all.

autumnalflower · Unread post by **autumnalflower** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:49 am

Tranquility may help, he's 13 and moody of course. So when he needs it he gets powdered!! It helps to calm him, and I use it for my negative grouchiness during my pmdd times of the month. Also is very calming and relaxing when I need it to help me sleep.

heartexalted · Unread post by **heartexalted** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:40 pm

In a situation like this, I would be tempted to execute a kind of beef-tongue freezer spell:
http://www.luckymojo.com/freezer.html

With supplies like red pepper to make her abusive words burn her mouth and alum to silence her. Admittedly, I'm biased having dealt with similar things myself, but that's what I'm inclined to recommend.

Dorothy dandridge48 · Unread post by **Dorothy dandridge48** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:23 pm

Hello to all, this is my first time using the forum asking for help. My mother was recently deemed sick, she is unable to take care bills of herself. My family can't seem to agree on a solution other than putting mom in a home. I don't want to see her go through that it would only make matters worse. There is a better way. Honor her and truly help. Is there any suggestions to calm past anger and pursuade them from putting my mom away? I'd appreciate all suggestions.
Thank you

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:42 pm

Who are all involved, you see you said 'them'...

Dorothy dandridge48 · Unread post by **Dorothy dandridge48** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:46 pm

My sisters, I have 5 of them.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:26 am

I see several possibilities here:

Protection work for your mother -- and I want to specify Protection, not Fiery Wall of Protection, which tends to generate more drama than you want. You want peace in the home, and wise decision-making -- and there are spiritual supplies for precisely those purposes.

Protection Spells
www.luckymojo.com/protectionspells.html
King Solomon Wisdom spells and supplies
http://www.luckymojo.com/kingsolomonwisdom.html
Peaceful Home spells and supplies
http://www.luckymojo.com/peacefulhome.html

I would spike your mother's grooming products and cleaning supplies with these oils or dissolved bath crystals. That way, anyone who helps your mother bathe or clean house will be blessing and protecting her, whether they know it or not.

And here's another simple, old-time trick you can do: get into her kitchen and stir the sugar bowl clockwise, while praying that her children respect her, take care of her, do not "put her away," etc.

In your own home, you can be working a honey jar for this purpose.

The Honey Jar Family of Magic Spells: www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html

You can also be working to deal with the sickness she is suffering -- put up prayer requests at the Crystal Silence League, and work with Dr. José Gregorio Hernandez.

Upload Your Prayer to the Crystal Silence League
http://crystalsilenceleague.org/public/prayer_type.php
Dr. José Gregorio Hernandez:
http://www.luckymojo.com/drhernandez.html

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:35 am

If you are liking Miss Michale's idea about the Honey Jar, I would start that as soon as possible, put all 5 sisters in there and work it, work it! The sooner you can get this up and going, the better. It way take a bit of time, but will eventually start to turn the sisters to a sweeter way of thinking. It may just take one of those 5 sisters to have a change of heart and be able to sway the others into re-thinking the situation. Read the above suggestions carefully and then take action. It is wonderful work you want to be doing and I wish you the best of luck!

Dorothy dandridge48 · Unread post by **Dorothy dandridge48** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:16 pm

Thank you so much Miss Michaele and Joseph Magnuson. You have no idea what this means to me. I will do prepare myself tomorrow for these jobs to come. This is so important to me. There are blatant obvious other ways but from what I see, they don't truly want to help. So to them this is a quick solution. Thank you again for your suggestions.