Santisima Muerte Santa Muerte Holy Death Spiritual Supplies

ShadoWalker · Unread post by **ShadoWalker** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:21 am

Santa Muerte and study

Hi I need to know which santa muerte colour statue is suitable in relation with my needs. I aim at getting a degree and I needs Santa Muerte's help. What Santa Muerte colour should I buy? what should I offer her? and is there a novena which is not for love but rather one that grants help as in my case.

Hermes what I learned is that the Blue Santisma Muerte is used by teachers and students to help with education and wisdom areas. I have a Santa Muerte statue which has the seven colors of Santisima Muerte on it. Approach her and ask her for her help, but make sure when you ask her you are at least at her waist level when you do. It is considered bad to look down at her when praying to her along with having her share the same altar with or asking other spirits and saints to work with her. She is a jealous lady and one must always ask her permission before working with another spirit during the same working. So far the only other spirit I am allowed to work and keep on her shrine is the Archangel Michael. If looking for her candles I would burn a White One for all around blessings. Hope this helps!

ShadoWalker

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:11 pm

A white or bone colored Santissima Muerte statue can be used for all petitions. While the intermingling of Santeria with Mexican traditions have popularized the rainbow of colors associated with Santissima Muerte, the red, black, and white colored ones are the three that have the longest history of use.

kazster · Unread post by **kazster** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:51 pm

theusurper wrote:I have a promised to Holy Death to burn a red candle every Tuesday at 12 midnight. last night i forgot to set the alarm and i was deeply out of this world, suddenly i woke up because i was smelling a tobacco and i never smoke and was 12 midnight, for me was the Holy Death that wake me up to burn the candle. Can any one tell me if was the Holy Death that wake me up?

On many of the altars to Santa Muerte I have seen, Cigarrates are left as an offerring.

She always gets her own alter as a sign of respect.

I have seen her called on as the great equallizer of death across ecconomic lines.
And to keep a spouse faithful.
She is known to like a good party and has been known to show up at practioners parties.

Guess a lot of what we are talking about is/ are different parts of her personality. Or the personality of the practitioner.
I have run into representaions of her for decades, yet I hear alot about her as a 'newer' venerated one.

There is a lot of things I would like to say about her, but I can not do her jsutice.

Kazster

kazster · Unread post by **kazster** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:56 pm

QUestion: would having a garden altar to her be appropriate? Maybe surrounded by roses?

wiccanbudgiemom · Unread post by **wiccanbudgiemom** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:31 pm

Thank you Santa muerte for all that you have given me so far! Saving my bird from an injury. He got his leg caught and I prayed to her for help. She sent help and the bird was out and ok with out a scratch! Also gave me a winning lottery ticket of a few bucks! Extra cash here and there! And putting me on the right path for job help, and graduating college with honors. Keep up the good work! I love you so much. I say my own prayers from my heart to her and work with her my way, I try to keep up with offerings with such a low income and she has been very patient and understanding! Don't know why some have trouble with her or say she screwed them after she granted a petition. I have no trouble and she is very sweet.

wiccanbudgiemom · Unread post by **wiccanbudgiemom** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:33 pm

Oh I forgot to mention after I cried in front of her altar about how frustrated I was with a failed neurotic public housing inspection, she turned things around and had them pass me! Now I'm asking her for a new home with less restrictions.

wiccanbudgiemom · Unread post by **wiccanbudgiemom** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:13 am

I'm burning it for devotional reasons and not what it says on the label. The flame is large and bouncing wildly. Maybe sm is trying to tell me something. I also have a very slow road opener candle next to it with a slow low weak flame. What could be going on?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:31 am

Please post related topics in the first thread you posted. Its just easier to keep everything together, and for people to remember what you are working on.

You will need to get a reading on the matter to see what is going on with your road opener candle.

As for santisma muerte, it seems as thought your work is going effectively, and she is hearing your prayers. I would listen to any sounds such as popping and hissing as she is trying to communicate with you.

Please read this for any further divination
http://www.luckymojo.com/candlemagicdivination.html

And of course go to AIRR for a reading. Www.readersandrootworkers.com

wiccanbudgiemom · Unread post by **wiccanbudgiemom** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:18 am

I met a guy online who worked with Santa muerte for awhile until she "screwed him" when granting petitions- so he says. This person is also bipolar, which might make a difference. I think he wanted to work with sm because she is dark and spooky, I think. He stopped working with her because when he asked for money, he got it but then his car broke down. Asked for his bf to move in and then there was trouble, then other things. Can't always blame sm, but if it was her fault, why would she behave this way? I think maybe she didn't want to work with him or something. Then he called her an evil blood thirsty spirit, as mictacaciuatl was a goddess who liked blood offerings so he said.

I work with sm myself and have had no problems with her. She has not been demanding or jealous. I do what I can with offerings, etc as I'm on a fixed income and she seems ok. She will let me know if she doesn't like something.

I just had to know. For awhile, I was hesitant to work with sm because of what others said and what I've read. Then I jumped in and found the truth for myself. She had called me and wanted to work with me.

wiccanbudgiemom · Unread post by **wiccanbudgiemom** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:33 am

I had just gotten my Santa Muerte candle. I decided to use it as a devotional candle and just tell her what I wanted. I had just built her a bigger better altar that day too. I lit the candle on the new altar and felt a lot of spiritual energy then. The candle also sparked and popped, and a large flame whipped around.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:03 am

Sounds to me like that guy didn't know how to write proper petitions and work smartly with spirits - it's a skill, and not everyone has it or takes the time to learn it. If you just ask for money without any stipulations about how it's going to come to you, then, yea, don't be surprised when your car breaks down and you get insurance money. Also, plenty of people get the target of their love work only to find out that that person is not actually all that great. That's not the spirit's fault - that's just life.

It sounds like Santissima Muerte was working just fine for that guy, and he just had no clue how spiritual work functions, and so was getting results other than what he was idealizing, and rather than see the results as sloppy spiritual work on his end he chose to blame the spirits. It's a common occurrence.

Santissima Muerte is not a spirit that is appropriate for everyone. If she works well with you, then that's all you need to know about that.

As for her liking blood offerings, well, I hate to break it to that guy, but most deities received blood offerings in time gone by...inclluding the Christian God. Jehova STILL receives buckets of blood offerings every single day in the form of kosher butchering!

Now, because this post is not about Lucky Mojo services or products, and is therefore off-topic for this forum, I am locking it.
Also, please direct questions to their appropriate thread in the forum (the Santa Muerte thread in the case of this post) so that us moderators don't have to keep shifting them to their right place.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:50 am

Can you read this 9 day psalm to any other spell, then just intranquil spell.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:40 am

The novena to Holy Saint Death is not a psalm and it doesn't petition the Intranquil spirit. Two completely different things. The novena is dedicated to Santa Muerte.

Novenas are specific to the saint that is being petitioned for intercession.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:09 am

ConjureMan Ali - But i read that u could read this when u do this intranquil spell.

wiccanbudgiemom · Unread post by **wiccanbudgiemom** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:24 am

I ring a bell to Santa muerte to call her. On two occasions I heard a bell noise that was deeper than the bell I use coming from her altar. Nothing visible could be causing that. I think she was letting me know that she heard me.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:44 am

Amilo just because you read it doesn't make it true. Santa Muerte and the Intranquil Spirit are two different beings. I am not sure why you insist on it when I've already corrected it.

Let me clarify for you. If you want to petition Santa Muerte then work with her novena. If you want to petition the Intranquil Spirit say the prayer to the intranquil spirit. Both of them are made available for you so it isn't difficult to locate them. No need to mix them up.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:54 am

ConjureMan Ali -
i dont go agains what u say.

Maybe i missunderstood it when i read it.
I was reading here at lucky mojo paga. About intranquil candle spell etc...and down under, it stood this about her. =)

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:35 pm

Read it again. You are misreading the text. Miss cat is a folklorist and so is providing information by comparing the Intranquil Spirit to a set of works that are similar in nature. She campares the prayer to the novena of Santa Muerte, never saying you can use them interchangably.

She also compares the Intranquil Spirit to several other things. The comparison is to help illuminate the nature of the work and provide cultural context. There is no mention of mixing them up. I think you merely misread. That's all.

ibelieve1 · Unread post by **ibelieve1** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:48 pm

I have used her before with great results and am thinking she is where I should be with my work currently. I believe seeing your post was a reminder. Thank you.

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Sat May 14, 2011 5:46 pm

my hubby has taken a job that takes him traveling around, and right after this all our communication devices, computers, net phones, died. my cards say we are being interfered with still, but cant name names. he still hangs out with some of his friends in other towns, that i KNOW are not got good people, hes fallen off the fidelity wagon once already and my cards say he is libel to do it again. im thinking of doing something to keep him thinking about why hes working 9US) and with the amount of BS i have been thru in the last year with his friends and our neighbors, i am picking up a medal and oil just as precaution, i have worked with Madam Bridgett and it seems that she has similar aspects.
any advice?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun May 15, 2011 12:18 am

What advice are you seeking exactly? On how to work with Santisima Muerte?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun May 15, 2011 5:54 am

While Madam Bridgett is associated with death somewhat as a guardian as the cemeteries, and wife of Baron, I wouldn't really consider her to be all that similar to Santa Muerte - who is Death Herself. I also feel the energies of Santa Muerte and Madam Brigette are very different, too. Santa Muerte is vast and regal and huge, and Madam Brigette is much more earthy. They are far from one and the same, in my opinion.

I feel strongly that spirits should be approached as individuals, and not as different "aspects" or versions of other entities. Whether or not one espouses a personal philosophy that favors notions of all spirits are one spirit, or of spirits as simply identical archetypes that express themselves differently in different cultures, it's respectful to treat them as unique and separate beings. Especially while in the stages of first establishing a relationship with them for the purposes of working conjure.

ntnew · Unread post by **ntnew** » Sun May 15, 2011 4:40 pm

thank you so much Saint Muerte for your help and guidance.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun May 15, 2011 10:59 pm

It is also important to note that while the lwa are often associated with saints or equated to them in a spiritual heirarchy, Santisima Muerte is considered far more powerful for she is believed to be the force of Death itself. People in the Latin American magical traditions often equate her with the powers of the archangels. It was once explained to me that other than Saint Cyprian and Saint Michael that few other spiritual beings could even be considered on par with her and that she was second only to God. But mind you this was a curandera devotee of hers that told me all this

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Also I highly suggest really learning about Santisima Muerte before approaching her. She has her own set of protocal and traditions associated with her and should be approached with great respect and devotion.

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Mon May 16, 2011 2:13 pm

thank you for your information! i will be studing deeper into this.

ShadoWalker · Unread post by **ShadoWalker** » Mon May 16, 2011 4:56 pm

ConjureMan Ali wrote:It is also important to note that while the lwa are often associated with saints or equated to them in a spiritual heirarchy, Santisima Muerte is considered far more powerful for she is believed to be the force of Death itself. People in the Latin American magical traditions often equate her with the powers of the archangels. It was once explained to me that other than Saint Cyprian and Saint Michael that few other spiritual beings could even be considered on par with her and that she was second only to God. But mind you this was a curadera devotee of hers that told me all this .

Also I highly suggest really learning about Santisima Muerte before approaching her. She has her own set of protocal and traditions associated with her and should be approached with great respect and devotion.

Conjureman Ali I love your post on the Holy Grandmother! I keep a shrine to Santisima Muerte which hangs over my Hoodoo Alter. I have been studying up on her and been told that she is a Spiritual Being that I could work wiht and I should use divination to ask her. So I did and she gave me positive signs. I had to chuckle a little while reading your post because going through my studies and Cowrie Shell readings I know that the only other Spiritual Beings, besides my Goddess and God, I can work with around her is the Archangel Michael and St. Cyprian....lol. The Archangel Michael is allowed to be on her shrine with her, but Saint Cyprian she old me has to be on the opposite wall from her shrine and that I can't place him by her. Saintisma Muerte can be a jealous Spirit and doesn't like one working with her on a certain matter and also calling on other spiritual beings at the same time. When I started working with her she told me that I could only work with her, the Archangel Michael, and my Goddess and God. In this way I have found the Holy Death to be my Divine Grandmother, the Goddess to be my Divine Mother, and the God to be my Divine Father. Santa Muerte can be a great Spiritual Mentor and Ally, but one must be careful with her. I find that using divination with her can be very beneficial. One thing I learned about her is she can be very understanding also, but one must give her the respect due to her for all mortal life shall go before her in their time.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon May 16, 2011 9:51 pm

I'm most fond of Santisima Muerte and work with her in a traditional curanderismo manner in which she's viewed as a folk-saint and within the paradigm of spiritual folk-catholicism. She tends to be fierce about her place in Catholicism since she's been officially rejected and denounced by the Church.

Interestingly there are many legends about the animosity between Saint Cyprian and Santisima Muerte. Some find that they work fine together, while others say that they do not and cannot be placed on the same altar. In either case, he is one of the figures called upon to form a protective pact before working with Santisima Muerte.

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:44 pm

so what would your thoughts be on lighting a candle to her to ask that she keep my husband on the fidelity wagon while hes doing his driving rounds, as a well as keeping him safe otherwise on the roads and bringing him home?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:03 pm

Santisima Muerte is petitioned in a very specific way with certain traditional elements. She is a demanding spirit and in my opinion people should approach her with great respect.

I am not suggesting that this is the case with you, but with many the saints have become a convenience list that they pick from whenever they need something. Such is not how one works with these beings. The question "what saint is good for_" generally is indicative of this. Instead a relationship needs to cultivated with the saints in a manner that is traditional to them. They are firmly embedded in the folk Catholic traditions of New Orleans, Afro Carribean Magic, Afro-Brazilian, and Latin American.

If you are sincere in your desire to work with her then get a reading to see if she'll work with you, or pray to her and ask for a sign. But most importantly get magical coaching from someone who is a devotee of hers. Myself, Dr. Kioni, Lou Florez, and Karma Zain all work with her.

niteraptor · Unread post by **niteraptor** » Tue May 24, 2011 1:40 pm

thank you again!

Crankyfish · Unread post by **Crankyfish** » Fri May 27, 2011 12:19 pm

I have been very strongly pulled to working with & learning more about this spirit.
I think she is beautiful. I ordered a multicolor candle (from elsewhere, didn't know about LM then), statue, and plan
on offering her the recommended liquor, fresh flowers, sweets, + my skin (tattoo) for her kindness. My petitions are to reduce my friend's sentence in jail, and restore my eyesight enough so I can drive without glasses or contacts.

Realizing she is a jealous spirit...Does this mean she will take away her blessings if I ever pray to another Saint?
What if I pray to another saint on behalf of someone else? (Some are uncomfortable w/ her I'd imagine).
Is it Ok to pray to another saint as long as the petition's goals aren't the same as the ones I ask of her? (example, asking St Anthony for a lost item the same week as asking SM for protection at night)
Obviously I would be keeping their altar areas very far apart.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri May 27, 2011 12:24 pm

I would hold off on the tattoo until you have a very well established relationship with her and are 100% sure that you want her influence in your life for the rest of your time here on earth. There are plenty of other ways to show your respect and gratitude that don't carry such irrevocable weight.

Each person's experience and relationship with Santa Muerte is different. I wouldn't petition her and another saint for the same thing, but you can certainly still work with other saints. You just may not likely be able to keep their altars on the same table, as she's very picky about who she'll share space with. But you know that already.

And just so you know, St. Lucy is a fantastic saint for eye issues.

You may wish to contact one of the AIRR workers who work with Santa Muerte to provide some magical coaching to help you establish your practice.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri May 27, 2011 6:27 pm

You can work with other saints as well as Santisima Muerte. Such a practice is very common among curaderos/as and hoodoo practitioners who have adopted such practices.

Remember she is the force of death itself, she is the Angel of Death and by very nature such an immense force that she demands respect. The way it was once described to me is that she doesn't like sharing a space with other saints because she simply is so "big."

The best way forward whenever working with spirits is with respect, proper guidance from real practitioners, and the spirit itself.

Crankyfish · Unread post by **Crankyfish** » Fri May 27, 2011 7:41 pm

Devi & CM Ali ~ Excellent advice

You're right, the tattoo is a bit extreme for initially building a bond...I received a glass red candle w/ her image on it today (multicolor not here yet)...I think on the next Full Moon I will ask her nicely if she would be willing to work with me in the future & give me a sign, introduce myself, and see how the candle burns.

St Lucy ! Thanks for reminding me of her, yes I will look into her associations as well for my eye issue.

theKING · Unread post by **theKING** » Sat May 28, 2011 4:40 pm

Hello.. Beautiful fourm.

I made a altar for santisima muerte and offered her a candle to allow me to work with her.... The water I placed on her alter has bubbles in it and im not sure what it means but the candle is burning a bit bright and I heared a few popping sounds.
theres also not alot of info of a male bringing back his male lover using santisima muerte.... Any helpful information is appreciated please n thank you

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sat May 28, 2011 4:50 pm

In Mexico many LBGT people have become devotees of Santisima Muerte because she is non-judgemental about that kind of thing. So I wouldn't worry about that too much. Part of the beauty and draw of her is that she does not judge based on occupation, orientation, or anything like that. Death comes to everyone.

That being said, some people just have trouble working with her for whatever reason. You can always get a divination done by an AIRR reader that works with her to see if she is willing to work for your request, and if so, what specifics she may wish from you.

In the meantime, just keep offering her your prayers and invitations to have a positive influence in your life. If she is willing to work for you, she will likely let you know in no uncertain terms.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun May 29, 2011 12:18 am

Santisima Muerte watches over all who come to her. Because she's an outcast of the Catholic Church, so too do people on the fringes of society; gangs, drug-dealers, transvestites, and others who've been mostly persecuted and ignored by society find patronage with her.

Like Devi said, Death comes to all so she does not discriminate. However, I find that while she is willing to offer protection and become a patron she won't do active work with everyone. She is still one of the "performer saints" meaning she comes through people when they call on her, but she is very particular about how she is approached. For example for some she'll come through with a simple candle and water, while other times she demands more attention and respect to be given to her.

Some work with her occasionally while with others she expects an altar to be established.

theKING · Unread post by **theKING** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:49 am

Thanks : )

What does the bubbles mean? And how can I get her to do work for me

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:19 pm

You don't get her to work for you. She is one of those saints who chooses very specifically if she'll work for you.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:03 pm

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DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:16 am

So what are some ways to protect yourself if/when some vindictive person petitions SM to harm you or murder you? The usual protection and cleansing products are not effective ime, anyone have any ideas?

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:56 pm

DelArca wrote:So what are some ways to protect yourself if/when some vindictive person petitions SM to harm you or murder you? The usual protection and cleansing products are not effective ime, anyone have any ideas?

You can pray to her and ask for her mercy, if someone of skill and power has petitioned Holy Saint Death to take you life, you need the help of a very skilled and potent worker. Have you had a reading done to actually confirm that this is what has happened?

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:13 am

I confirmed this through my own reading. I had no experience with this entity or thoughts about this entity until last night when she came in my dream. She had very long white robes floating and a red sash around the waist and everywhere I turned to escape her back was in front of me. Then like a hungry animal crushing in on her prey she turned around and her face was an ethereal skull and grabbed me with ethereal skeletal hands. A portal in the ground of the dreamscape opened like a yawning mouth and there was an underworld inside.

I did not have sleep paralysis but I wasn't able to fully awake either though I was lucid. I yelled some words three times that came out sounding not like my voice, much deeper and from the throat. I don't feel comfortable sharing the words, but they were mainly the reason why she was not able to take me. I awoke physically pumping my arms/fists trying to escape.

After I was awake, I could still close my eyes and see the underworld 'portal' slowly close and the spirit extremely angry. She has been coming back to me on and off all day. I can just sense that same cold presence . . . yes the 'fingers' were like ice. I think it wants some kind of payment. I told her she should go collect this payment from the souless piece of **** who did this, but obviously they have enough power to keep deflecting and sending her back to me.

I have jinx killer products, rue products and cleansing herbs and fiery wall of protection, but I need a stronger conjure. I need something that will protect me while I sleep.

ETA 8/31/11: I did a fiery wall of protection ritual last night and did a thorough cleansing of the house. As I lay down to sleep with my eyes closed I could see brief glimpses of the skull face a few times, but I was not attacked again. I am not sure it was my ritual however . . . my fiery wall jumbo I had burning all night was not really the greatest burn.

A creepy detail: my baby's nanny(only because he has been too sick for daycare the past couple of days) told me that yesterday, she fell asleep when the baby napped and had a very strange and realistic dream of a little girl named 'Paola" who came out of a mirror reflection and then would not leave her side. When she asked others if they could see the little girl, they said no, but they could hear her.

I got a shiver down my spine when she told me the story . . . I don't know much about SM(just what I googled yesterday), but don't they say she appears as a little girl/nina as well?

I also asked SM to please leave me in peace last night. I told her that I have been through too much to be overtaken by a petty enemy(same person who has regularly been paying practitioners to harm me for months now) playing with the spiritual equivalent of 'deadly weapons'.

QematetSau · Unread post by **QematetSau** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:49 pm

I have been called to her a while ago and now again. I have done some divination, and I have to agree with early posters that she decides what kind of work to do for you, esp. whatever you need the most in your life at the time of your petition. She's very pleasant, understanding, and very straight forward in her communication with you. I had not experienced this type of communication with another deity. It's as if I was doing mediumship with a deceased spirit, which comes very strong-real time ish- for me. Other deities would give me signs but SM talks directly to me.

Hope this helps...

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:05 pm

" SM',Santisima Muerte, talks directly to me".

no text, sims, or technology this and that.

The full name of the Diety, in this case Santisima Muerte, just trying to help you.
Relationships are built with respect.
No "SM", Santisima Muerte, or is it "SM" Saint Michael, Arch Angel Michael, full names please, out of respect.
In the long run you won't be angry about this post, you will be thankful, and hopefully you will build a relationship.

QematetSau · Unread post by **QematetSau** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:35 pm

Miss Tammie

I never used it out of disrespect. A lot of posters on this thread used the abbreviation and nobody said anything. So, I started using it too without thinking much of it. Thanks for the advice.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:07 pm

I promise I did not mean to be ugly. I just wanted you to understand something, and I have actually thought about this post, as I do from time to time, to wonder if I said the "right thing" and the "right way" so it is not cruel or mean.
I just wanted you to know that the abbreviations might not be the right way to go.

I'll give you a very good example, once someone referred to a Saint Michael as "Mike", this was almost the same thing. That person is now a very good friend of mine.
We all learn.
I did too.
The last thing that I would ever want to do is crush someone who has come here with a sincere heart to learn; I wanted to help you help build your relationship. If I came across as cruel or mean, I just wanted you to know that being respectful from the start and "from the get go", from the beginning, will be most helpful to you. (You were not the first to post initials).

Its just a pet peeve, like "I use the Saints".... The Intranquil Spirit is the (IS)

I wish that the Internet could control my voice when I type. You would find that it is warm,kind and it would encourage you to learn and that there are many Members here to help you along your journey.
I hope to see you around!
My sincere thoughts of hope and Blessings to you in all of your endeavors, always.
Tammie Lee

Miss Understood · Unread post by **Miss Understood** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:47 pm

Hello everbody I am starting to work with the santisima muerte and have done some pretty good research. I just wanted to let everyone know that JACULATORIA does not mean ejaculate or a mans semen. It actually means small brief prayer. With that said you can do the novena without using a mans semen because when it says Jaculatoria, well its referring to the small brief prayer of

"Death, dear to my heart,
don't abandon me, protect me,
and don't let ____name____
have one moment of peace;
keep him restless and bothered
with the thought of me always."

Which you say everyday before you say that days novena.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:01 am

I am not sure anyone thought Jaculatoria was anything related to ejaculation here... but thank you for the information. It would seem really odd to be in the middle of prayer and novena and then interject seminal ejaculation.

Miss Understood · Unread post by **Miss Understood** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:22 pm

Turnsteel wrote:To perform the novena to Santisima Muerte,as described on that LuckyMojo page, you need a string that has the semen of the man on it, a Santisima Muerte statue and to read the novena.

This is what I was reffering to.

theKING · Unread post by **theKING** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:43 am

Has anyone had results using this novena??
Theres not much on it : (

Chardonnay · Unread post by **Chardonnay** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:14 am

I am sorry if this question has been asked before : I want to know about working with Santa Muerte but is semen really necessary ? I have booked a reading and once I get the green light (if I do) I want to work with Santa Muerte for reconciliation but won't be able to get semen (as I'm not with him hence the reconciliation). I feel that this saint is better suited because my target is hard hard hard headed. He won't listen to no one except himself even if he feels for the issue. Anyways just wanted to know if no semen will work ?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:46 pm

That refers to a specific work involving sexual fluids from the husband as a personal concern. It has nothing to do with the prayer, Miss Understood. Nevertheless thanks for pointing it out to others who may have had confusion.

Nolongerhere · Unread post by **Nolongerhere** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:39 pm

Okay, I really don't want to have my head bitten off here, but I feel the need to mention that anyone can petition Santa Muerte. Some people display a fear of her, which is a form of respect and I understand and entertain that idea. But for anyone interested:

-Death comes to everyone, it is the only just thing in this world. Regardless of social standing, sexuality, gender or color... Death will come to you. She is a powerful force, needing respect, but for myself personally, I have a natural love and affection for the white lady. I do not approach her out of fear, I approach her because she will be with me in my final moment on this planet. I find her beautiful and inspiring.

Working with Santa Muerte (at least with prayer and vigil lights) is open to all people, there is no need for an intercessor. Again, I don't want my head bitten off for saying this, I agree she deserves respect, but her arms are open to everyone.

Peace,
Callum R

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:49 pm

That's very nice you feel that way Callum. Holy Death is indeed a fair and just being. That said she does not work with everyone. She takes some as her devotee and not others. I know many workers who have attempted to cultivate a relationship with her and she simply was not interested. While others she has approached on her own.

As to intercession, there is a general practice of working with her only under the power of another protective saint. This is a common practice in Mexican folk practices--the culture to whome she belongs.

As with all saints the path to her should be paved with respect and love.

Nolongerhere · Unread post by **Nolongerhere** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:17 am

I have heard of the need of a Protective Saint before invoking her, a wise practice, not due to Santa Muerte being harmful... But simply because 'energy sticks'. It is like performing any form of jinx or crossing work, you cleanse afterwards. With Santa Muerte, you protect before petitioning.

I myself had an interesting dream with Santa Muerte, is spoke volumes... Death is more concerned with the activity of the living then the dead... Ironic, in some ways. Very true however, the dead don't die another death, you die only once... whilst alive.

Callum R

theusurper · Unread post by **theusurper** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:57 pm

I'm very devotee to St Martha but i asked her if i can work with the Santa Muerte and i told her to give me a sing, well few hours latter i found the Novena and when i was reading the Novena to see the prayers, my target called me and i'm not expecting his call. My question is, is that a sing to work with her. some advice, please

Nolongerhere · Unread post by **Nolongerhere** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:30 pm

Generally speaking, keep Santa Muerte separate from your workings with St Martha, as holy death can get jealous.

I also recommend prayer to the archangel Micheal before you invoke Holy Death, as she is the force of death... Prolonged invocation may result in suicidal thoughts, perhaps illness etc (Not because she is trying to harm you, but because that is her energy and energy sticks.) A prayer to a figure like archangel Micheal should do the trick, ask him to clear and purify any negative energies and to safe guard you from these, you may wish to pray to him after workings also.

I would also recommend asking permission from God before invoking her, such as: 'Dear Lord, I ask for your permission to invoke Santa Muerte/Holy death'... Then proceed to talk to her.

Talk to her for a period before you begin any heavy magickal working, leave offerings (cigarettes, water, sweets, tequila, flowers, incense, apples etc.) Build a relationship.

Set up an altar, containing some or all of the offerings above. If you cannot get a statue, buy a prayer booklet and put the image in a frame. Use a nice cotton cloth on the altar.

Never look down on Santa Muerte during prayer, ALWAYS look up... the latter being respectful. So place her altar at a height, so if seated, you are looking slightly up... Or on a shelf, so if standing during prayer you are looking up.

If you were going to purchase a statue, white is usually the first one, unless color is otherwise given by Santa Muerte herself. In time, you may purchase red then black. If using black, cover the white so she does not become tainted and remains pure.

I've covered quite alot, if I've missed anything, I am sure someone else will cover it... If you have any questions... Ask

Also... ENJOY!

Callum R - Sol

Nolongerhere · Unread post by **Nolongerhere** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:30 am

I don't recall seeing a thread on this yet here on the forum, so I thought I'd start one.

I got confirmation from my re-seller that LM has contacted them and I should have my figure candles sometime next week. One of the candles I ordered was a red Santa Muerte figure candle, I will also receive Santa Muerte oil.

Now seen as I am being more rational and not going after that 'straight' work colleague of mine and would like to re-unite with somebody I was dating. We never really fell out, it was one of those 'the right person at the wrong time' scenarios.

Also I have placed an order for a reconciliation honey jar from my re-seller, but what could I use this Santa Muerte candle for? Could I anoint it with her oil and pray for her aid in us re-uniting?

I'm just wondering really, it is the correct color, and I don't mind working alongside my honey jar to strengthen the impact. Also she does aid in loves dream...?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

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