HRCC: Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course Questions and Answers

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:28 pm

Well thank you jwmcclin!

...and also Thank You, blessed1, I am learning still and have a ways to go, but am absorbing as much as I can and always reading and learning new things daily!

Believe129 · Unread post by **Believe129** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:37 pm

Yes Joseph. Great advice. Makes sense...

I am getting closer and closer to enrolling. I am getting excited by the minute. I love LMs products and KNOW what Ms. Cat teaches is the real deal therefore I understand and appreciate the strict rules she sets to take the course.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:48 pm

Believe129 wrote:Yes Joseph. Great advice. Makes sense...

I am getting closer and closer to enrolling. I am getting excited by the minute. I love LMs products and KNOW what Ms. Cat teaches is the real deal therefore I understand and appreciate the strict rules she sets to take the course.

Agreed. Those in the know --- i.e. anyone who owns Hoodoo Herb & Root Magic, KNOW that that is one of the most comprehensive Bibliographies around. That is just a small example of how thorough and complete the information provided it. cat knows her stuff and dedicates a TREMENDOUS amount of her time to those of us who are over at the Course Group. Well worth it in every way. I wish you luck getting there blessed1.

Unread post by **Jasmina** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:44 am

Hi

I was looking through Cats list of must buy before signing up for the course and was wondering which ones are considered negative oils. Are banishing, controlling, bend over and dominating oils in this list?

I needed to get some other supplies anyways, so I might as well take some from the catalog too.

I appreciate the help.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:19 am

When I think "negative", I think crossing products - Crossing, Destruction, Damnation, Devil's Oil, Double-Cross, DUME, Inflammatory Confusion, Intranquil Spirit, etc.

The oils you've mentioned are mostly Controlling/Compelling formulas, which are not intending to mess a person up really, as much as just influence them.

Unread post by **Jasmina** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:30 pm

Thanks Devi. Where would one keep one of these? Would their energy be disruptive to the family life?

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:18 pm

I keep all of my crossing/jinxing and harming materials on their own altar. I do client work and so on top of the altars sit negative workings I am currently working on and in the drawers I have the oils, incenses, bath crystals, and sachet powders. I am sensitive to scent and I first made this separation due to that (hot foot oil doesn't smell right next to love drawing oil) although some of the more controlling oils like Bend Over and Controlling have a pleasant scent to me. But it also makes for good spiritual upkeep to keep some of the harsher stuff off of say your altar for love+prosperity.
Blessings,
Bri

Unread post by **Jasmina** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:59 am

Thanks Miss Bri

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:22 pm

To ElectroKid / Christopher Evans --

Thanks for your interest in my course. In order to enroll, you need first to become a customer of my shop, the Lucky Mojo Curio Co. and buy from us. I have no record of a Christopher Evans in my database of 29,000 customers, so that's your first step -- become a customer.

Next, there are certain supplies you will need to purchase before you can take the course -- my book "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic," and a set of oils, herbs, powders, incense, and bathing supplies. The list is on this page:

http://luckymojo.com/mojocourse.html

Finally, i do not accept students under the age of 21, so, since you are 18, you have a few years to wait.

Good luck, and perhaps you will some day become my student.

Unread post by **Kolade** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:13 am

Hello All!

I just wanted to take a moment to apologize to Ms. Cat--it was never my intention to sign-up for the correspondence course and not finish; life just gets in the way sometimes--and let her know that I will begin submitting the homework assignments by the end of this month. I look forward to graduating within the next few months (fingers crossed, lol).

btw...this is Canaan (student# 1543).

Unread post by **hagofnaedre** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:31 pm

Hi there everyone, I just have a few questions about the course.

I have been a Lucky Mojo customer since 2010 and I have placed a total of four orders, the last of which was all the supplies I needed for the course. I was wondering if I should call ahead to make an appointment to talk to miss cat before purchasing the course book, or should I purchase the course book and then make the interview appointment? Just curious as to which route might be best.

Also, I have a copy of Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic, that I bought on amazon long ago (it's very dog eared and well loved, lol) - is it required that I buy it via luckymojo.com or is the copy that I already have ok?

I just wanted to make sure all my bases are covered before I take the big step.

Thank you!

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:05 am

Hagofnaedre,

Call the shop and make an appointment to do your interview first, to make sure that cat is comfortable accepting you into the class. After you have been accepted cat will help you go ahead and order the Course book.

You do not have to buy a new copy of HHRM as stated by cat herself on the course page: "if you don't already have a copy of this book, you will have to order it at the same time that you enroll in the Correspondence Course"

Good luck. The Course is worth the time and effort and you will get lots out of it.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:54 am

Thanks, Joseph -- that is correct.

Hagofnaedre:

1) You can have bought your copy of HHRM anywhere, but you must have a copy.

2) You cannot order the course book until i accept you as a student. Acceptance is dependent upon our compatibility and your agreement to the terms of the course, which we will discuss during the interview. If you were to try to order the course book without having been accepted as a student, your credit card would not be charged and you would not receive the book.

3) Upon acceptance, you may order the course book and when your payment is processed, you will be enrolled in the course and given a Student ID number, access to the course students' Yahoo group, and a timeline for completion of your homework.

4) Upon satisfactory review of your homework, you will be sent a certificate of completion in the course and your student ID number will be given the suffix of "G" -- for "graduate."

Unread post by **Dark Raven** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:18 pm

Hello Miss Cat,

I am very interested by your courses and would like to follow your “Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course”, if you accept me.

I think that I meet the requirements (see below) but I have one little problem : my native language is french and I have very difficult to follow a telephone conversation in English. I can read English and understand about 80 % of what I read (with a dictionary close to me it is again better), and I can write a bit too (but less well that I read). So, talk with one person by telephone and understand will not be very easy for me.

So, I apologies for that (I continue to learn English step by step everyday) and I would like to know if it is possible to do the interview by email ? (we could to fix one appointment and I could to answer immediately). Or, if not, by “Skype” may be ? (2 reasons for that: by this mean we could see each other and so I could to read your lips to get more easy for understand and answer to you AND as I don’t have telephone but just a GSM, it’s a lot less expensive for me as it is international call).

I do not want to bore you, so if it’s not possible… I understand, and simply ask you if it's possible for you to speak slowly and with simple words during the phone interview. Thank you very much.

REQUIREMENTS

- I am prepared to turn in ALL my homework and I want absolutely to be graduate.

- I bought all the products on the list of products (except the roll of charcoal tablet because I have plenty charcoal tablets already at home) and many others items.

- I reading “Hoodoo theory and practice” every day.

- I have plenty plants and herbs books already but I am glad today to have “Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic” because this book is one “MUST” and gave me knowledge about plenty herbs and curios which I don’t know before.

- I have read the terms and conditions and I agree to these terms.

I apologies for my bad English.

Thank you for reading and for your time.

All the best,

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:07 pm

Ah, Canaan -- how wonderful to hear from you again. I hope all has been going well with you since last we spoke.

I always welcome the return of "prodigal students" -- my receipt of your homework is the only way i have of knowing that my teaching connected with you and helped you get where you wanted to go. That's why it means so much to me when a student completes the assignments and graduates.

SweetLady · Unread post by **SweetLady** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:45 am

Hello Miss Cat:
I have been contemplating taking this course for over a year now. I found the Lucky Mojo site after reading a book called Not in Kansas Anymore that I picked up 2 year ago, around Halloween, at a Dollar store in the small midwest town in which I currently live. I was instantly drawn to the store/site by a strange and compelling curiosity. At first, I would only visit and browse briefly. I think I actually felt a bit afraid of the site!

lol. I don't know why...perhaps it is because I have always been "sensitive." you know, to subtle energies and such. However, curiousity got this cat, and I continued to visit whenever I was online. I read some of the info about you, your husband, the shop, the mojo car, etc. At first, I wasn't sure hoodoo was for me, but the more I read, the more I liked! I am a Native American Woman, and longtime worker with spirits

I have dabbled in Wicca and Buddhism. I consider myself well versed in the area of magic/spirits in general. I have read tarot cards for 16 years. I am a dreamer, in my own tribal system of belief. I have been ordering from LM since the earlier part of this year. I am very interested in taking your course, and hope that you will take me on as a student. I apologize if this is not the right way to contact you...I tried to PM you, but was unable. This is just a bit about me. Hope to hear from you! Thanks a bunch for operating this site and for your willingness to share your knowledge with others! Blessings, SweetLady.

Unread post by **Lee Canipe** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:10 am

I apologize for piggy backing onto Kolade's post (Welcome back, Kolade!), but I just had to say... Thank you so very much, Miss Cat. There aren't enough words to express how grateful I am for all that you have taught me, and for setting me on the path of reconnecting with my roots. For many years I was ashamed of my origins and background; I wanted to escape the poor tobacco farm and live the modern, Big City life far removed from who I actually was. Now I'm right back on that farm where I was born-- going to the family church, learning the family ways, being with my people, and it's where I belong. Studying with you has allowed me to get over past feelings of embarrassment and hurt and to see what an amazing heritage, culture, and history I have. You turned me around and set me on the path so that I would be that "Prodigal Son" returning to my people. I will always have the utmost respect and devotion for you, Miss Cat. Thank you!

Lee Canipe (G)

Unread post by **hagofnaedre** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:12 am

Joseph & miss cat,

Thank you for clarifying! I just called in a few days ago and got my appointment for interview set up this Thursday. I'm really excited! Thanks again

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:24 am

hagofnaedre: That is great news. I am glad that my instructions were clear enough (cat, thank you for the nod and for the great back-up information) and I am glad that you have an appointment for your interview. I loved talking with cat about the Course and have to softly smile when I hear nearly-students feeling nervous about the interview, so I am glad you are excited! It will be great!

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:09 am

Wow, this is some great dual-post!

Kolade: Great to see that you're "back" and set to complete the course! Go for it and good luck! I am very happy to have graduated.

Lee Canipe: That was a seriously nice post to read. It just emphasizes my thoughts on how many people are helped through the various Lucky Mojo incarnations and how much I enjoy seeing that happening. Your words were wonderful to read and I thank you for sharing them with us! Congrats on the Graduation!

serpentlight213 · Unread post by **serpentlight213** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:02 pm

I understand that someone who is interested in taking the hoodoo course is supposed to purchase from multiple items which in one post I saw was "powers, incense, oil, candle, mojo bag" etc. Can I just order the required items for the course? I also understand that I will have to be a customer of the Lucky Mojo store/site which I am but I only made one order which was a BIG order though. Is there anything else I need to do to qualify? I know I have to buy the course book, Mrs. Cats book, the items but througout the forum there seems to be "more requirements etc."

Ty

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:57 am

serpentlight213: You say: "througout the forum there seems to be 'more requirements etc.'" What have you seen that qualified as "more requirements?"

Please re-read the Who Can Apply page for the Correspondence Course here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocourse.htm ... CONDITIONS

They are on the right hand side of that link and spell out exactly what Miss cat would like of you as a perspective student. I hope this helps you.

serpentlight213 · Unread post by **serpentlight213** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:16 pm

To Joseph Magnuson:

Requirements may not have been the best word for all of the things I came across but some were that you would have to have a ten minute convesation with Mrs. Cat on the phone which is understandable but I do not ever remember reading that here http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocourse.html.

The same goes with you having to be 21 years old (no clomplaints, I'm 23).

Its been a few weeks since I came across the main post I am referring to though I can't seem to find it. It just seems like important information is being disperced throughout the forum that should either be on the page above (the link) or made into a section of the forum - a more specific section for updates etc. unlike this section.

Ty

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:37 pm

Hello, Ty / serpenlight213 --

The mention of having a conversation is definitely on the page and has been there since i first wrote the page. You probably just missed it.

it is under the heading "Who Can Apply" and it is worded thus: "The only way i can decide who has what it takes to study with me is to become familiar with them, understand where they're coming from" ... "let's have a brief telephone conversation so that i can get to know you a bit," which describes it well enough, i think.

As for age, i have long used the word "mature" in the "Who Can Apply" area on the page but so far, no enrolled student younger than 21 has ever graduated, hence i have gradually adopted the lower age limit of 21. Due to your bringing it to my attention, i have inserted "21 years of age or older" in the "Terms and Conditions" area of the page, but i am leaving the previousr term "mature" in the "Who Can Apply" area of the page.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:15 pm

Lee -- so nice to see you here. I always hold a special place for you among my graduates.

I also have a question for you. I know there are several people in the USA named Lee Canipe, but ... Is this one you, one of your relatives, or just some random other Lee Canipe?:

A Baptist Democracy
Separating God and Caesar in the Land of the Free
by Lee Canipe
Media: Paperback Book, 192 pages
Publisher: Mercer University Press
ISBN-10: 088146239X
ISBN-13: 9780881462395
About the Book
The first decades of the 20th century were days of robust optimism in the United States. These were the confident years of Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, progressive reform and high purpose. This period also marked the high tide of what author Lee Canipe calls "Baptist democracy": the moral overlap between Baptist theology and American democracy that continues to shape the way Baptists in the United States understand and articulate their faith. In this book, Canipe traces the rise of Baptist democracy as reflected in the work of three prominent leaders who made their most significant contributions to Baptist life between 1900 and 1925: Walter Rauschenbusch (1861-1918), E. Y. Mullins (1860-1928), and George W. Truett (1867-1944). Celebrating the harmony between the principles of their church and the ideals of their state, these three Baptists eloquently articulated what, by the turn of the 20th century, had become an article of faith for many of their fellow Baptists.

ElectroKid · Unread post by **ElectroKid** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:54 pm

Hello

I Would like to apply for the Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course? magic runs in my family also brought cats stuff

1 . candles green, white

2 oils - love, commanding, bend over, pay me,

3 mojo bags

4 books Cats Herb Root and magic (good book)

5 bath crystals

7 sachet powders love, commanding, bend over ect

8 Chinese wash, buffalo Amounia, Four Thieves Viniger

also done commanding work on someone it worked really well

i am really serious about this taking this course how can I apply

Thanks

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:42 pm

ElectroKid --

If you are interested in my course, then the next time you order any of the required materials, just add a note in the message area saying that you wish to be marked as a "prospective student." There is no obligation to become a student, but if you mention that, then any items you order from my shop will be check-marked as meeting the course requirements for materials.

Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course by catherine yronwode

The Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course by Catherine Yronwode:

The cost is $2.00 per lesson: $104.00 for 52 lessons in the form of a 432-page hardcover clothbound book. Each book is personally inscribed with the student's name and signed by catherine yronwode. You must meet certain requirements as a customer and you must be interviewed by cat before being able to purchase this course book.

BOO-XCC-HRCC
Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course by catherine yronwode
$104.00

You can read the entire list of required purchases, both books and spiritual supplies, here:

https://luckymojo.com/mojocourse.html

Unread post by **Lee Canipe** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:31 am

Hey Miss Cat, that Lee Canipe is a cousin (3rd or 4th?). He and I are constantly getting confused for one another-- I once received an interesting email from Dr. Cornel West, who thought I was my cousin! I descend from a long line of clergy and many of my relatives are ordained ministers (Baptist & Methodist).

Lee Canipe #398 (G)

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:56 am

LOL! Your cousin! Well, it seems that religious studies run in your family. The book still sounds interesting to me. I may pick it up anyway.

Nolongerhere · Unread post by **Nolongerhere** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:04 pm

I've looked into this course and it seems I am of a disadvantage, living in the UK I mainly use a official re-seller, so there goes the invoice required. Also, having to send shipments of sample products to the US continually would make grading slower and costlier.

Boo! Lol.

Callum R

serpentlight213 · Unread post by **serpentlight213** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:48 pm

Im starting to feel like a nuisance, always asking theses questions but then again this forum is, I imagine, to answer questions about these matters. If I already have one of the required items (oils,incenses etc.) from a previous LM order do I have to purchase it again or simiar item when I sign up for the Course? i.e. If I already have love oil do I still have to buy a love oil from Lucky Mojo or will the one I have suffice?

Ty

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:53 pm

If you ordered directly from LM the first time - not through a reseller - then they should have a record of your previous purchases. In that case there's no need to repurchase the same items again.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:12 am

I just wanted to add my two cents here (please forgive me if this post is redundant)

I am an older woman with DECADES of experience in the world of magic. This includes DECADES of experince buying products from numerous companies, too.

Lucky Mojo's products, in my humble opinion, are the most SUPERIOR products that one could ever find. catherine yronwode BELIEVES in her work, takes pride in her work, and insures that her products are as honorable as is she.

This attitude of hers is also demonstrated in her role as our teacher. As a graduate of her course, I can tell you (first hand) that I think twice before making something. Sometimes, thinking is required more than twice (because cat has instilled in ALL OF US the superior ethics of conjure work). This has resulted in me considering myself (as well as the rest of her graduates) a highly knowledgeable and ethical root worker.

And distance from California (or the U.S.A.) ought not matter when it comes to the what the end product will be: Outstanding knowledge and understanding of the practice of Hoodoo.

TopDog · Unread post by **TopDog** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:32 pm

Hi,
I am interested in signing up for the course at a future date.

But right now I am interested in a few things,
and will like to know if the course provides such information.

What I am interested in is the rootwork oils and the powders and incenses.
I will like to know if I will get the recipes that Catherine uses for her oils, powders and incenses in the course material ?

I have read a few books with recipes, but they do not have complete formulas.

I think that Catherine uses complete formulas and knows about these products well.

Am I getting Catherine's recipes for ALL the oils, powders and incenses she has available in the store ??

Or just a few recipes are provided for examples ??

I don't mind paying the cost for the course if I get what I want !!!

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:49 pm

No, you will not get all of the exact recipes that Lucky Mojo sells.

What students acquire is even better: a working knowledge of how to make all these things; an ability to make up your own recipes; the ability to make your own judgements in respect to recipes; an understanding, knowledge, and rapport with plants, roots, etc.; and the magical applications of the aforementioned.

You will learn how to be a root worker as opposed to just reading a recipe book.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:44 am

TopDog, no one will ever just give you their complete formulary. The course is more than worth the small cost, because you are given the confidence and knowledge to make your own specific oils, incense and powders. I think that the Correspondence Course may not be what you are looking for at all if you are just recipe hunting.

Unread post by **Jasmina** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:22 am

Does it makes a difference how "old" is your customer record? I have bought 3 times from LM (for the past 2 months I believe), including each time some course required items (missing 3-4 more I think) - but mostly getting things that I think I would need to make things happen in mine and my families life.

I really want to learn how to do things right.

Yasmina

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:22 am

Yasmina,
When I had originally interviewed for the course, cat was able to pull up everything that I had purchased in the past.

Unread post by **Jasmina** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:11 pm

Miss Aida wrote:Yasmina,
When I had originally interviewed for the course, cat was able to pull up everything that I had purchased in the past.

Thanks for the quick answer Miss Aida

I was actually more wondering does it matter if I have been buying for 3-4 months or it needs to be a longer standing record for me to be even considered a valid candidate? My will is strong on this question and will wait if I have to.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:17 pm

Yasmina,
The "Correspondence Course" page says that the required purchases ought to be spread out over 4 invoices. If you've also met that criteria, then you're probably ready to call Lucky Mojo and ask for an interview with Miss cat (she does have the final word and she's really good at reading people's sincerity and dedication to the course). Also, the other folks at Lucky Mojo will ask you questions prior to setting an appointment. They too are very insightful. Doesn't hurt to give it a try now..
GOOD LUCK !!!!!

Unread post by **Jasmina** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:36 am

I sure will call as soon as I place my 4th and final order....I hardly wait!!!

candlemagician · Unread post by **candlemagician** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:29 am

To anyone interested in the "Correspondence Course", I would say Take the course! I have had my Book now one week, and find myself 7 chapters into it, completing my first homework assignment to return. I can't put this down. Follow the rules that are set out to be able to be interviewed by Miss cat (truly an amazing woman) and join the class. The Staff at the Store, the Grads, and the other Students make you feel welcome and right at home right away...... Just do it!

Unread post by **rev.jordan** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:30 am

Greetings from North Carolina!

Haven't been on the forums in awhile -- happy holidays to miss cat and the rest of the Lucky Mojo community.

I'm still working towards eventually taking the correspondence course, but finishing my degree at the Abbey is a primary concern right now. By this time next year I'll have graduated. I've recently gotten engaged, too, so it's been a busy semester!

I was reviewing the required purchases necessary before enrolling in the course -- one of the requirements is that I have an oil for "negative work" and also an incense for "repelling or harming". I was wondering what the mildest options were here -- especially for the incense.

I don't do very much negative work anyway, although I'm willing to work with the materials for educational reasons.

Would banishing oil and incense meet those requirements?

Thanks!

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:28 pm

I believe that Banishing would be considered as filling the requirement. Ultimately it is up to cat though. Call the shop and set up an interview time so that you and cat can talk. Good luck.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:41 am

Obskultus --

The course is like a bus. It runs on a certain schedule, follows a certain route, costs a certain amount to ride, and the destination is clearly printed top-front-and-center as it comes into view.

The fare, the requirements made of the passengers, the curriculum-route, and the graduation-destination are publicly posted for all to see.

If this bus is going to take you to a destination you want to get to, by a route that looks enjoyable, then get your ticket and ride.

If you don't think you want to end up where this bus goes or don't think that you will enjoy the ride, then just don't get on the bus.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:55 am

Hello, all -- In response to requests from a couple of students, i have created a Facebook page for the Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course. You can use this Facebook as a place to link to and share with other Facebook users, so that your social network friends will be able to see what you are up to.

The page is designed for the use of students and graduates, but i will not "police" it, so anyone interested in eventually taking the course can also check it out and "like" the page. Here it is:

http://www.facebook.com/Hoodoo.Rootwork ... nce.Course

Enjoy!

Unread post by **rev.jordan** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:21 pm

Miss Cat,

That makes a lot of sense. I was reflecting on that myself over the last few days and realised that I want to study hoodoo for it's own sake, and that will require me seeing things in their authentic cultural context.

In other words, I agree completely.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:28 pm

Cat,

The page looks great so far! I "Liked" it and it was at 91 Likes...can't wait for 91 more!

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:57 am

To Yasmina and others who are wondering how "old" your orders can be to qualify for the "required purchases" portion of the course requirements --

We have 53,256 invoices in our files covering the 51 months from October 2007 to January 2012 in our current database (a.k.a the "new" database).

We have 24,159 invoices in our files covering the 105 months from January 1999 to September 2007 in our "legacy database" (a.k.a. the "old" database).

Both are immediately accessible.

The 4,375 Invoices covering the 27 months from October 1996 to December 1998 are no longer electronically accessible, alas, as we discarded the old-format electronic data when we upgraded our database on the first of January, 1999.

However, HAND-WRITTEN records of the daily transactions from that early period still exist, in little bound books. (Not that i am going to look them up, mind you ... but they do exist.)

In other words, if you have ordered from us any time over the past 11 years, we can look up what you ordered.

Unless...

Unless you were a walk-in client to the shop who paid with cash and did not state your name (we only keep name-records of walk-ins who pay with credit cards) ...

.... or you paid with cash and used a fake name (you'd be surprised how many people pay with cash under fake names!).

Finally, if you have changed your name over the course of the years and want to be credited for purchases made under your old name, you need only give us your old name and we can merge all of your previous invoices into one current client-record under your new name. We do this all the time, with minimal fuss.

Hope this helps!

Unread post by **Jibrael** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:22 pm

I had a similar question, regarding what exactly constitutes "negative" and "repelling."

My first order included "Black Arts" Oil (Which I love!): does that count as "negative"?

I also have Black Cat Incense, which I know can repel or counter bad luck (which is why I bought it), so is that "repelling"?

I'm not asking to circumvent a requirement, but just to make sure I get the right materials. I am wanting to take the course, but in the meantime am using the required list as a way to see just how broad the Hoodoo world is (and, for the record, I don't have any magical qualms about so-called "negative" magic; in for a penny, in for a pound!).

I'm currently saving up for my 3rd order (excited!) and in addition to things I just want for myself, I want to include more items for the course requirement, so some clarity on whether I'm right or wrong about these two categories would be helpful.

Thanks as always, everyone.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:27 pm

Jibrael, Black Arts is generally considered negative, although it is not as hard-core as a cursing formula like Hot Foot, Damnation, or Crossing.

Black Cat is usually used for luck issues and is not generally negative.

Hope this helps.

Unread post by **ANSUZEIHWAZ** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:34 am

Hi Cat I got my Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course HardCover Book, but I want to know about the Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic book, I have the 2002 publication and there another publication?

Happy New Year!!!

Thanks

Glaciers · Unread post by **Glaciers** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:33 am

Thank you miss cat for accepting me in your correspondence course

. I am so excited to continue on this journey with you. Thank you again. It was a pleasure to speak with you. I am so looking forward to getting my materials.

Blessings,
Glaciers

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:56 am

Glaciers,

You are very welcome!

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ANSUZEIHWAZ,

The 2002 edition of HHRM is fine as a companion to the HRCC book. The latest edition of HHRM has been revised a bit, but the revisions are not so great as to require you purchase the new edition.

mountainwiccan · Unread post by **mountainwiccan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:56 pm

Hello again. I was taking a brief look at the information provided with respect to the Hoodoo Rootwork Correspondence Course, which I shall certainly look at applying for in the near future when I know a little more than I presently do about Hoodoo!

My question was with respect to befriending an African American person in order to assist in the completion of course assignments as well as because.. well, it makes sense given that Hoodoo is inherently African American.

For me the term African American is a little confusing as I was uncertain whether the need (within the context of this course) was to befriend a black person or specifically a black person of American origin.

I have relatives who live in Manhattan and Florida - but have not been in contact with them for decades now. Most of my immediate family and friends of Black origin live either in the UK or the Caribbean.

So there are two questions I'd like to ask.

1) Can I simply turn to people of Black origin who are not American? I live in the UK and can honestly say that I have never met many African-American person in the UK aside from tourists in London and thereabouts.

2) I am Black (British born-Caribbean). My mother is a Carib of Antiguan and Dominican (not Dominican Republic) origin and my father was also from the Caribbean. I grew up with stories being related about Obeah in the Caribbean and how it directly related to my family so, could I use my own "black" familial experiences within potential coursework assignments?

Any clarification is appreciated and I hope that I have posted this in the correct forum!

Ta!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:51 pm

I believe that students outside the US can interview an African-American by email or phone. Check with Miss Cat to be sure.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:24 pm

Yes check with cat, she will give you some recommendations.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:00 pm

Hi, mountainwiccan --

HRCC students who live in countries other than the USA can make friends with an American person of another culture via the internet (although in-person tourists are preferable). HRCC students who live in the USA should be in-person friends, or co-workers, or have met somehow in the world.

1) This is not about skin colour. It is about culture.

Of the two first homework assignments -- the collection of folklore -- one of the two must come from your own family and one of the two must come from an African American person.

The course is about the folk-magic culture of African American people, especially those with family roots in the South, so if that does not describe YOUR culture (even though you have Black skin), you would still need to find an African American person to interview for Homework #2.

This means that if your own family is African American, then you can interview anyone you choose who is NOT an African American for Homework #2..

In other words, when it comes to Homework #2:

* A person from a European, European-American, Asian, or Native family must interview an African American person.
* A Black Nigerian must interview an African American.
* A Black Jamaican must interview an African American.
* An African American may interview ANYONE of another culture, including a European, European-American, Asian, Native American, Black Nigerian, or Black Jamaican.

And it gets delightfully complicated with bi-racial students -- where one parent is White and the other Black. They can choose one parent (either the White one or the Black one) for Homework #1 and choose the other parent for Homework #2, if they want to. (And yes, this has happened.)

2) Of all of the New World Black traditions, Obeah is by far the closest to Hoodoo. This is because the slaves brought to British colonies (including Jamaica and what became the USA) picked up many cultural cross-over customs that were rooted in British, Scottish, and Irish folk-magic and herb-lore, and ways of working and thinking that were rooted in the various Protestant religions. However, the biggest difference between USA hoodoo and Jamaican Obeah is that the slaves in the USA had extensive contact and intermarriage with Native tribes of our region -- most prominently the Cherokee tribe. This means that a lot of Cherokee lore entered into Black American culture -- but it is absent from Black Jamaican culture. So the two cultures diverged over time.

I cannot teach you Jamaican Obeah, and although i know you will find many, many similarities between it and hoodoo, i cannot grade your assignments based on how closely they conform to the norms of Obeah. The two are like lasagna and enchiladas -- similar dishes, made in a similar way from a flat starchy substance, plus a filling, a sauce, and cheese, both baked in a pan, both usually served with a spatula, but actually made of slightly different ingredients and with definitely different flavours.

Lasagna:

Enchiladas

mountainwiccan · Unread post by **mountainwiccan** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:25 pm

Thanks for the reply - Very helpful indeed.

So to further complicate things is Jamaican Obeah like Antiguan Obeah (my family are not from Jamaica but Antigua and Dominica)?. I thought Obeah differed from island to island as their language, music and culture tends to. I know very little if anything about Jamaican cultural, spiritual and religious traditions.

I thought though that Obeah might be similar in some ways to Hoodoo so that is useful to know if nothing else.

My mother also happens to be half Indian - but Carib Indian not Native American. but very few people seem to have heard of these Amerindian people ...

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:28 pm

I know very little about Antiguan obeah, as i have met few people from there. I would assume that it does vary from Jamaican obeah, in the same way the Mississippi hoodoo varies from Georgia hoodoo.

Your point about the Carib Indians is well taken -- their customs and practices cause the local form of obeah to vary from other forms.

What i teach is a survey of various styles of hoodoo across the USA, including rural styles and urban styles which were influenced by contact with other urban groups, such as Chinese and Jewish people.

America is a big tossed salad!