Spells to Bring Out Truth, Expose Errors, Force a Confession, Remorse, Apology, Reparations, Repercussions

BellaMars · Unread post by **BellaMars** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:42 am

Thank you for the link and the suggestions starsinthesky. I am doing this for the sake of my children, these mind games and manipulations on his part really need to stop, I know they are young but they understand and I dont want this to shape their lives, I want them to grow up with good morals.

Last year I did a couple of white skull candle with clarity and king solomons wisdom oils and herbs as suggested by my rootworker, I would light it for 3 days at 3am and talk to it through tobacco smoke. I know it was hitting him bc the next day he would tell me that he would wake up around 4am and not be able to go back to sleep. Other than that I didnt notice any change in him or at least he didnt let on. SHould I repeat this same work again?

Would Stop Gossip stop him from playing the victim? and Reversing would send all his negative words back to him? I think I read on the forum about using a reversing candle I think it was a two colored candle, can I use something like that for this situation?

I have done two honey jars for him, the first was to reconcile us together- it didnt work and when my rootworker told me to open the jar and look at the petition and photo our photo was burned down the center even though it was pushed down the jar of honey. The second one I did as instructed by my rootworker was just for peace and soothing herbs to calm and it seemed to work for a bit then he snapped in Dec. I did them exactly as instructed and prepared and inscribed candles 3 times a day and prayed my heart out. So even though I would like to do a honey jar I am wary of them.

Thank you so much for your help. As always it is greatly appreciated.

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:44 am

This is more of an intuitive response, but the burned photograph and the sudden rebellion against the honey jar seem like pretty hard resistence. Could he (or someone on his behalf) be doing work against you?

BellaMars · Unread post by **BellaMars** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:40 am

There is no one else that I know that does this kind of work. There is no other woman either, he is dating women but nothing with commitment involved just to pass the time.

My thought was that this resistance on the honey jars might have been signs from my guardian spirits and saints that I pray to telling me that he is not good for me.

I am editing this post after much thought. I think what Stars suggested to sweeten him in this 'working friendship' way is actually a good one. I think my other two honey jars may have failed bc I had my protecting spirits and saints watching out for me. I would ask them through my stream of daily prayers to grant me my reconciliation only if it was the best thing for me and my family. St Anthony I feel is the one to finally show me that J is not worthy of me.

J will always be part of my life bc of my boys so sweetening in this different type of relationship, a 'working friendship' sounds like one good thing to do. I will start a new topic on this type of sweetening jar and what herbs to use just in case some others are looking for similar advice.[/.

Any other suggestions as to what I can do is greatly appreciated!

-edited to remove a quote that was unintended

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:51 pm

GIven the results of your past honey jar work...perhaps you may want to employ the help of a rootworker.

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:51 pm

I need help finding a method to have someone see just how wrong he was to me. This of course goes against someone who is very selfish and self centered. He hurt me deeply all the time and finds a reason to blame me. Well no more! Can someone please help me with an idea to make him truly see he was very wrong to me?

Thank you so much!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:10 pm

You can use Clarity (http://www.luckymojo.com/products-clarity.html) to make a person see the truth. But you are saying this individual is selfish and self-centered...thats a tall order.

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:10 pm

LOL - it is. I am only being truthful. It's funny you say to use that, I have that on hand. I just need a method that will work on someone who is selfish and self centered and normally does not see how he treats another person.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:33 pm

sarahmf1984:

May I direct you over to the Skull Candles Questions & Answers thread?

skull-candle-questions-and-answers-t15161.html

You can effectively use a skull candle to influences someones thoughts. I may use a combination of King Solomon Wisdom and the aforementioned Clarity Oil and influence them to see exactly what they are doing to you and how they should be thinking of the situation.

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:07 pm

Adding some Influence oil to the skull candle could be beneficial, as well.

http://www.luckymojo.com/influence.html

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:57 pm

Yes, very! Thank you TheDixieFlatline.

nana664 · Unread post by **nana664** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:32 am

This post has really grabbed my attention. So often, even after a person knows that what they're doing is wrong, they still don't care. For something like the poster is wanting, wouldn't it be nice for this guy to also feel some guilt and shame for how he has treated others?

Just a thought.

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:50 am

I think that, alot of the time, if you can strip away the justifications they build for themselves, and force them to stare at a stark rendering of the things they have done, and the pain it has caused, guilt and shame follow naturally. If not, then, perhaps, other work could be undertaken.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:51 am

This kind of work is usually done with a mirror and a picture of the person. As nana664 pointed out above it is about making a person see AND be ashamed. Using Crossing Powder or just a pinch of Asafoetida and Mint in between the mirror and the picture (faced towards the mirror) along with a detailed prayer works fairly good.
Good luck!

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:14 pm

These are all great suggestions and I am very thankful! Doctor, how exactly would I do this? Just tape the picture to the mirror and for how long? Do you have any suggestions?

And yes guys, I did try skull candles. See, they started coming back around, but they were never sorry for what they did to me. It was just never mentioned. When I'd work the skulls, they'd normally contact me the next morning very hateful.Then he'd make his way back to living at my house, but pretending he never did the things to me.

And it ended the same way again. He started treating me like I was a nobody again and when I stood up for myself he would get angry and say thats why things were this bad - because of "how I'd act". Then poof - he'd leave home again. The entire time he's gone he treats me like he hates me and he had to get away from me. The things that hurt me the most is the way he would talk to me. Then I'd shut down and tell him that I would not talk to him when he talked to me like that. He'd get into my face and spit in my face : ( He's dumped cold ice water all over me when I tried to walk away from him : ( He broke my car key off in the ignition bc I was trying to leave when he was treating my like this once : ( The last time this happened I asked him to leave. He takes a can of pop and dumps it all over my remotes for the tv that I only bought bc he wanted one in the bedroom : ( We have kids together, and he does not help much. He has other kids, and he spends time and money on them. Every weekend he talks about how "busy" he is always "working". So many times I've busted him taking his other kids to the movies, fun events while "working". And my kids sit here with me. He has every excuse in the world and finds a way to blame me for "how I act" - I swear all I do is REACT to his making me suffer. Then I point out that he could have done the same nice things with my kids the next weekend. He calls me names and gets mad. Sometimes he tells me that the only way he'll talk to me is if I go to anger management.

I can go on and on. I promise I can not think of one single argument I ever caused between us. Every argument has always been something he did to hurt me. But I'm always to blame especially if I stick up for myself and my kids. I "look at things wrong".

I have so much more to say just not enough time in the world to get it all out : ( Please help}!

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:32 pm

Get out of this unhealthy relationship ASAP. Don't worry about what he thinks or feels. Start taking care of yourself. Do a Cut and Clear to rid yourself of any emotional ties to him and tell him to leave your house.

His behavior is abusive and will only get worse. Stop letting him control you.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:59 am

sarahmf1984 wrote:These are all great suggestions and I am very thankful! Doctor, how exactly would I do this? Just tape the picture to the mirror and for how long? Do you have any suggestions? ...

Make his picture face the mirror, place the powder in between pray over it - and make sure you are detailed about what you want, especially if using Asafoetida or Crossing Powder. Then wrap it up in tin foil or some old piece of cloth, put it away and forget it.

nana664 · Unread post by **nana664** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:23 am

Oh sarah, you need to get away from him ASAP. I was in an abusive relationship many years ago, and believe me when I tell you that his behavior is going to get worse. My wake-up call was when he put a gun to my head in front of my infant kids. I know that you want to teach him a lesson. You can still work on that AFTER you get away from him. You might even decide later to send him a "special" batch of cookies, heavy on the nasty stuff.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:49 am

Be careful in crossing him. It may affect his ability to pay child support, which should be your prime concern now.

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:17 pm

Thank you all so much! Mama Micki, I have honestly thought about the cut and clear. I have given it thought. That may be where this truly ends up. As for now, I have made him leave. I just want him to see. I know that I should not care to make him see, I know that to some extent. And as for child support... What is that? LOL. He does not pay what he already owes in child support towards his other kids, I'd never see a penny regardless.

Doctor, thank you very kindly. I think I may give this a try. I appreciate your advise very much.

Nana, again, I am away from him. And I know that things only get worse - I really do. I just wish I could wake him up to see things for what they really are instead of the lies he creates.

If you guys have any more suggestions/thought, I am very accepting and thankful for them = )

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:32 pm

If you know where his dead ancestors are buried you can always pay them a visit. Bring some gifts , tell them about how he treats the family line and ask for their help. Burn some hell money as a payment to them for straightening him out for the sake of his family line. If they make things move in the right direction (he gets a job and starts providing for his kids all while staying away from your heart and lets you be happy with another man) you pay them regularily by burning money to them once a month or so.

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:56 pm

Doctor, so very weird you said that. I do know where his relatives are. This is something I will def give thought to. So you also believe that I should walk away from the situation? There's no hope that forcing him to truthfully look at how he treats me would make a change big enough to have a family with him? That is obviously what I had hoped, but at the same time I know that I want to be happy too.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:40 pm

We are offering our advice sarahmf1984, with the information that you posted. The final decision of course is yours...but you can get a reading to see if the work is worth it.

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:06 pm

Maybe I should set up for a reading. Sounds like a start = ) Thanks jw.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:18 am

sarahmf1984 wrote:Doctor, so very weird you said that. I do know where his relatives are. This is something I will def give thought to. So you also believe that I should walk away from the situation? There's no hope that forcing him to truthfully look at how he treats me would make a change big enough to have a family with him? That is obviously what I had hoped, but at the same time I know that I want to be happy too.

Why is that wierd to you?
My general opinion is that a man that is abusive and seemingly does not care about providing for his kids could be made to re-think his life by any means. If you have kids with him it is a factor that stays for life regardless if you have a partner relation with him or not. Making him ashamed is a good move if it leads to him becomming a responsible father. If it leads to him treating you lovingly in the future, all the better. The issue if such work leads to a continued partner relationship between the two of you should, in my opinion, not be considered a priority or even a prefered goal if you are aiming for the best possible outcome for all involved persons.

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:22 pm

Doctor, I apologize - that did sound kind of odd, I did not emphasize WHY it was weird. I guess it was just ironic as he has a family member who is buried very near my family member, and it was by coincidence. Just ironic, then you mentioned his family's burial spaces.

I truly do thank you for all your advice. And it does seem I may need to just quit caring. Also, I see you mention not to make him and I better a priority, etc. So I guess there comes a point to just let go.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:35 pm

Some would say that coincidences are the voice and actions of spirit. Get some "Hell Money" and go see them.
Good luck.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:57 am

Why keep asking and confronting him if he is going to lie anyways? I would let his guilt eat him up and let him confess on his own. You can do this spell for 7 or 9 days. I think the longer you do it the more energy you build into it.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:21 am

COmpelling powder is often employed to force someone to tell the truth. Clarity can be added to it as well, for you and everyone else gaining greater insight into the matter.

SPD-HOO-COMP
Compelling Sachet Powder
$8.00

SPD-HOO-CLAR
Clarity Sachet Powder
$8.00

crimsonsoda · Unread post by **crimsonsoda** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:34 pm

Hi!

I need someone to come clean and tell the truth to someone else. I know the truth, but I promised to keep my mouth shut but the situation is becoming quite urgent.

I should have done the spell when I had time to order the correct supplies, but I am wondering if there is anything I can in the meantime as it's becoming a pressing matter.

I have Lucky Mojo commanding oil, Crucible of courage oil at hand. I have almost any color candle, and a supply of parrot feathers (gracefully provided by my molting parrot). I can also find commun herbs and spices.

Anything that can be done?

Thanks in advance...

Unread post by **aura** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:30 pm

Hi crimsonsoda,

there are a couple of ''spill your guts'' type spells that have been discussed in the forum. Read through the following product info and see if anything seems appropriate to your case:

http://www.luckymojo.com/compelling.html

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:53 pm

I would get the purple candle, and dress it with commanding oil. Get the parrot feather and wrap a photo of the person around the parrot feather and/or their personal concern. On the back of the photo or name paper write their name 9 times and cross it with speak your lies.

Now I would put that under the candle, and then state something like " I command john doe to speak his lies or he shall not find rest or peace until he does." Something like that.

crimsonsoda · Unread post by **crimsonsoda** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:37 pm

Thank you so much, I will try that.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:32 pm

Here is optional spellwork using Commanding Spiritual Supplies < http://www.luckymojo.com/commanding.html >

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:03 am

Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:14 am

Heating up the tounge comes in many variations and are often used to make people talk. Some say that five finger grass can loosen the tounges of people as well.

crimsonsoda · Unread post by **crimsonsoda** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:52 am

What kind of tongue? Like a beef tongue? (I am not willing to cut my parrot's tongue, lol!)

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:42 am

No no no crimsonsoda. Five finger grass http://herb-magic.com/five-finger-grass.html is used in spells to gain favors. Dr Johannes is referring to its use in heating up the tongue to talk and tell all.

crimsonsoda · Unread post by **crimsonsoda** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:49 am

Sorry, I misunderstood... That's what happened when english isn't your nfirst language!

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:35 pm

crimsonsoda wrote:What kind of tongue? Like a beef tongue? (I am not willing to cut my parrot's tongue, lol!)

Well, you "heat up" the tounge of the person you work on. This can be done by using a beef tounge or by inserting stuff into the mouth of a human figurine candle, a doll or a picture. And some use five finger grass to heat up the tounge of another.
Leave the parrot out of this (except the feathers then).

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:40 pm

Doctor,

So I have an update I'd like to run by you. I did the picture/mirror/petition/crossing powder. I had results the next day - but not what I expected at all. So he starts contacting me and physically shows up at my house to ask me if I have anything I'd like to say to him. He was being very pushy telling me we were going to work it out that second, or never at all. I was in shock. I was also busy at the time and it became very late and I had to go to bed! He was mad and seems to be mad at me all over again. He says I "play games" after he came to me to fix things. What? He never apologized! He acted like I owed him one. Any input?

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:53 pm

Good. Now you know this spell works on him and that you can do it. In a sense he is right. You are playing him.
Now remove the crossing powder. Redo the spell without it. Just pray over it again. This time that he will see himself and be able to understand that it is himself he sees, not you. Then put it all in the freezer and let him cool off a bit.
Did you talk to his ancestors? If not, then do.

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:06 pm

Will do this weekend, as it will be my first chance. Okay, I will def do this again. Is there any oil I should use? Controlling? Clarity? Compelling? As for removing the powder, should I replace with any oil?

Thank you so much!

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:18 pm

You can put a dab of Clarity Oil between him and the mirror. Since you know you can influence him in this way nor, you might consider going for just a little lighter touch when doing the work. Unless you want him on the door bell at bedtime again.
Good Luck.

crimsonsoda · Unread post by **crimsonsoda** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:15 am

Just an update. I did the purple candle/parrot feathers spell 3 days ago. My target is quite tortured and is loosing sleep over this (which is unusual), but I think he lacks the courage to let the truth out. Just wanted you guys to know.

Kittyluver · Unread post by **Kittyluver** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:58 am

what EXACTLY can I do? I would like to 1, get him to realize that he has really hurt me and two get him to some how contact me and open up as to what happned.

Kittyluver · Unread post by **Kittyluver** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:04 pm

and for those of you who just can't help themselves and do suggest a reading, can you tell me what kind of reading I should get? I read in the forums somewhere that some readers have a cheaper one question reading.. Do you think one of those will be able to help me with this question?

and thansk to anyone who can help...

BTW this happned about 2 months ago...

nana664 · Unread post by **nana664** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:39 pm

It sounds to me like he was just interested in the thrill of the chase. Some people are like that. Once the chase is over, they lose interest. I hope someone can help you.

Kittyluver · Unread post by **Kittyluver** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:27 pm

Um okay... You would think he would just finish... Guys still like to get off..who knows.. I think there. Was more to it though.. If it was something I did or said I sure would like to know so I never do it again assuming I even get the courage to try.. I know someday when I heal but not right now.

Hopefully someone can still help me out on this... Without opinions or theories preferably

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:30 pm

Well, I guess I'll put my foot in it; you should get a reading. It might be that he's just like that, or he could be getting worked on by somebody else, etc and so forth. There could be lots of reasons. If you really want to know, and can't divine for yourself, a reader is your best bet. Go to the Association of Independent Readers and Rootworkers, and check the members' pages. It'll have their rates listed. You might be able to get by with a 10 minute/$10 reading, if you can slim line your question, or several members offer a half-hour reading for a reasonable price. If you have sone supplies on hand, you might be aboe to put something together, but if you're starting from scratch, it's possiblethat the supplies you need, and the trial and error, are going to be more expensive than the reading.

http://readersandrootworkers.org

Kittyluver · Unread post by **Kittyluver** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:23 pm

You're probably right.. I will save myself money by not guessing what I need.
Would I need a card reader, Love worker, Psychic reader, Blessing worker, Spiritual advisor, etc?

Lol there are a lot of categories on that page..

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:48 pm

There are a great many areas. Believe me, as a student of the art, I am all too aware of how many types of magical work there are...

You just need a reader. If you prefer one type of divination over another (say Tarot, or Lukumi obi) just find a reader that offers that service. Otherwise, let Spirit guide you.

Since it's a budget concern, sign up for the next Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour radio call-in show. If you get picked, you'll get a free, on-air reading from miss cat, ConjureMan Ali, and whomever their guest is. They will not be live this Sunday, because of the workshops going on, but you can sign up for the 13 May show here:

radio-show-pre-call-id-may-13th,-2012-t19427.html

blue · Unread post by **blue** » Fri May 04, 2012 7:29 pm

Hi BellaMars! I am wondering how you went about your honeyjar for the working friendship. What oils or herbs did you use, what color candles? Did you burn them everyday, or only a few days? I am asking because this is EXACTLY what I am wanting to do to my husband. I tried to search for the new topic you said you were going to start but could not find it.

I am in the process of leaving him due to emotional, verbal, and mental abuse. I do not hate this man and do not seek revenge, but we have 2 children together and 5 between us so we will always be a part of each other's lives. I just want to be able to have calm, and or friendly adult conversations with him. I dont want to argue or fight anymore. I have started a small honey jar with a petition paper that has our names written 3 times and crossing each other. In a circle around it I wrote "let's stop fighting lets get along apologize and admit you were wrong." I put hs and my hair in the middle of the circle and folded it up. The honey jar is now under our bed because I can not burn candles with him here. I had planned on using reconciliation oil and blue candles once I leave, which will be within the next couple of weeks. I do not want to get back together, I just want to stop fighting...I want a peaceful end. This is all new to me and I kind of just put that together based off a few things I read on the forums. Does this plan make sense? Would you do something different? I welcome all suggestions as I am desperate for this to work.

misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Sun May 06, 2012 3:13 pm

Please help! I need my husband to admit he is wrong on so many things. He has ruined our relationship in so many ways over the past few years by letting me down, hurting me in many ways, letting our kids down, etc. He can NEVER admit he is wrong. He blames me. I've asked him to make a list of things I've done to mess up our relationship, he cant. And I can go on for days about all he's done wrong to me. He NEVER admits he is wrong, never admits the past was wrong, etc. And he still continues to hurt me!

Every time he does me wrong, he blames me, and I'm tired of being hurt. Every time I am looking forward to something, he finds a way to ruin it for me and blame ME! The other day was an event I was looking forward to and he knew it, and was supposed to go with me, help me, etc. So the night before the event he stays out for hours running errands, visiting friends, etc. No big deal. Well the morning of the event, he leaves and when I bring up that he could have completed that errand the night before instead of hanging out with friends for so long, he totally hates me! He treated me like hell and basically punishes me anytime I bring up a way that he is wrong to me. He did not come home to go to the event with me, and hurt me so badly that I did not go. Instead, I stayed home all day crying. This is usually what happens everytime I look forward to something. "I" always do something that makes him disappear and let me down. He even goes as far as still blaming me, not talking to me, ignoring my calls and texts, and he even truly knows how broken I get when he does this to me and he knows I did not go to the event, and cried all day. He does not seem to care, it is still MY fault.

I go through this entirely too much and this is what I mean by he has ruined our relationship. Yet he will never admit anything is WRONG that he does. He even did not come home, as he has this "apartment on the side". His friend rents apartments and he has one that he runs off to everytime he does me wrong. So unfair! Sure the apartment is empty with only an air mattress/tv, but I'm tired of this, it is wrong. We are married and he hurts me and my kids all the time. He runs off and goes there for weeks on end, `and goes to spend time with everyone but my kids. Everyone else is first. He doesnt even help me pay bills in OUR home because he is paying rent in that dump! But yet, he is NOT WRONG! I can go on and on about all he has done that is wrong. He does not ever see or admit when he is wrong and does not ever realize that all the wrong he has done has caused so many problems between us and that HIS actions and failures are the reason things are this way. He is very selfish and does not seem to care about how poor of a life he has provided for me and our kids.

Please help!

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:01 pm

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misslady123 · Unread post by **misslady123** » Sun May 06, 2012 5:08 pm

Thanks! I am the poster of make him see how wrong he has been to me. It just does not seem to work. He does not admit or get things. And of course I can compel or command him to apologize or take blame, but it is like seemingly impossible to get him to open his eyes and truly take in his wrongs. If he were to spit out an "I'm sorry" it would more than likely be fake. Totally stinks and my heart is broken. Not just once, but thousands of times.

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Mon May 07, 2012 10:36 am

blue wrote:I am in the process of leaving him due to emotional, verbal, and mental abuse. I do not hate this man and do not seek revenge, but we have 2 children together and 5 between us so we will always be a part of each other's lives. I just want to be able to have calm, and or friendly adult conversations with him. I dont want to argue or fight anymore. I have started a small honey jar [...] I had planned on using reconciliation oil and blue candles once I leave, which will be within the next couple of weeks. I do not want to get back together, I just want to stop fighting...I want a peaceful end. This is all new to me and I kind of just put that together based off a few things I read on the forums. Does this plan make sense? Would you do something different?

I would not use Reconciliation just to stop the fighting. Reconciliation is specifically to bring a wandering spouse back home and into your arms -- to fall in love again.

Peace Water, Peaceful Home, or Tranquility are better choices. Use them with Cast Off Evil. (Using Stop Gossip will also serve to shut him up.)

I usually recommend King Solomon Wisdom for work like this, but in the case of a narcissist or abuser, this might allow him to discover better ways to get under your skin and bamboozle your allies. So don't use it on him: use it for yourself, with Crucible of Courage.

By all means put these things into a honey jar -- but leave Reconciliation out of it, since you don't want him back.

Instead, you might want to do something like this, including the products named above:

A Honey Jar Spell to Get Child Support from a Baby's Daddy
http://www.luckymojo.com/honeyjar.html#childsupport

Hope this helps,

Miss Michaele

l_espoir · Unread post by **l_espoir** » Sun May 27, 2012 9:22 pm

Hi all,

I've looked through some of the threads similar to this, but I'm still a bit confused on what would be best. I hope no one minds me making another thread. Basically the situation is this. I was with this guy for a while and he completely disrespected me (more than once), despite insisting he cared about me deeply to everyone we know. I called him out on it and now he refuses to acknowledge I even contacted him. Which is insulting and frankly, ridiculous. I deserve a genuine apology from him and I don't want him to sleep well/be comfortable until he gives it to me.

We ended suddenly and I haven't seen him recently, so I don't have anything personal of his (beyond pictures of us together/of him).

Suggestions?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun May 27, 2012 9:55 pm

You may find your answer here ( need-help-making-someone-admit-when-the ... 19510.html )

l_espoir · Unread post by **l_espoir** » Sun May 27, 2012 9:59 pm

Thanks for the link. I was thinking maybe a skull candle, but then would I use a compelling oil on it or clarity or something to make him restless?

Unread post by **Doctor Hob** » Sun May 27, 2012 10:55 pm

You can use the skull candle to get into his head. The rub is getting a "genuine" apology. Using rootwork to compel him to apologize may not bring a true response. Likewise, Clarity may only be effective if he is capable of seeing his shortcoming. I would try Clarity first, and call on the work to show him the hurt he has caused, the injustice he has perpetrated. If he is so apathetic that he is unable to acknowledge his wrongdoing, I'd break out the hyssop and batten down the hatches for some rough work.

Curiously, what is coming to mind is a spell available on the Lucky Mojo site for getting back money owed. This apology is a debt owed, so you may well be able to call on the same spell. Of course, instead of calling for money to be repaid, you will be calling for him to bring you the apology that he owes you. Check out the spell here:

http://www.luckymojo.com/payme.html

Maybe this will help.