Reconciliation Spell Kit Honey Jar Kit and Painted Bottle Spell Questions and Answers

antm422 · Unread post by **antm422** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:07 am

Hello All!

I am about to purchase the Reconciliation Spell Kit, and I have a question:

I feel like I read somewhere that if you are gay, to specify this to LM so that they can send like two men Lodestones. Is this true, or am i thinking of the wrong thing?

Please Let me know as soon as possible, so I can purchase quickly!

Thank you,

JOSH

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:37 am

You have done your research Josh; the Reconciliation Spell Kit includes a Bride and Groom candle, matched lodestones, a John the Conqueror and Queen Elizabeth roots. These items are gender specific, you should call the shop this morning, they will open at 9:00am Pacific Time (707-887-1521) and will be open until 5:00pm Pacific Time.

Good Luck on your reconciliation work.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:08 am

Hi Josh. You have done some great reading up and you might already know about these two pages, but just in case:
http://herb-magic.com/balm-of-gilead.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/lavenderlove.html
this page (Lavender love drops) gives further recommendations also to Stay With Me, Love Me, Bewitching, Follow me Boy and more for when he returns to Stay with You, Love You, Be passionate with you.
Edited to include Saint Sebastian. There is a long thread about the Saints, the information on page 8:
working-with-deities,-angels,-spirits,- ... tml#p49815
Good Luck and please stay posted!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:03 am

The recommendations that Triplethreat made can be found on the following pages
Stay With Me (http://www.luckymojo.com/staywithme.html)
Love Me (http://www.luckymojo.com/loveme.html)
Bewitching (http://www.luckymojo.com/oil-bewitching.html)
Follow Me Boy (http://www.luckymojo.com/followmeboy.html)

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:26 pm

I think you should definitely go towards the things that triplethreat listed, but I would specify to lucky mojo when you order online (there is a message box) that you are a gay man, and would like the spell kit to fit you accordingly. Another product that is great to compliment the reconciliation work is return to me.

http://www.luckymojo.com/products-return-to-me.html

Unread post by **JayDee** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:37 pm

im a gay dude and ordered the kit and specified that and they sent me matched stones I also ordred a groom/groom candle to use in place of the provided candle . the other herbs can be used if its a masc/fem or top/bottom relationship masc/top is the john root fem/bottom the queen ela root. after that it works swell. Other products that are gay man friendly as iv exerpienced are follow me boy I dominate my man, lavender love drops and Q oil. Hope this helps. Good luck !

Reconciliation Spell Kit

Use in Magic:
Have you and someone had a foolish quarrel? Has an enemy jinxed your romance? Try Reconciliation to forgive and forget past problems, fights, and break-ups; to repair friendships; to restore love affairs; and to renew peace in the family and harmony in the home.

Spell Methods:
Lucky Mojo spell kits are the perfect introduction to folk magic for those who want to follow established methods; you will receive all of the ingredients needed to perform a full job of work, plus complete instructions for use.

Product Details:
This Spell Kit comes complete with:
• 1 Pink "Bride and Groom" candle
• Reconciliation Bath Crystals
• Reconciliation Incense
• Reconciliation Oil
• Reconciliation Sachet Powder
• Matched pair of small Lodestones
• Packet of Balm of Gilead Buds
• Packet of Magnetic Sand
• Pink Flannel Bag with metal Dove charm sewn on
• Complete instructions for use

SPL-KIT-RECO
Reconciliation Spell Kit
$65.25

You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.

For more information, see:
http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html

PoetikkApoztle · Unread post by **PoetikkApoztle** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:49 pm

I keep reading so many different things on reconciliation work. I am in the midst of having some uncrossing done/unjinxing as I have had a bad couple of years with no luck for anything amongst them problems in the relationship department.

Most recently I was with a woman for a year and a half things were great and then one day after we lived together for 4 months along with my 11 yr old daughter things went haywire she decided that we should move back to jersey and I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE NEWS BETTER! Well I didnt and we argued on and off for 2 weeks and then finally one day she broke off our relationship by the way she gave me no real reason. We had some issues, Mine mostly with trust where I questioned a few things I didnt like and she was really secretive so I had some doubts towards the end I blamed her cheating and that just made things worse.

She already didnt want to discuss why she chose to end the relationship but she just seem to shut down. she changed her numbers on me, decided to go as far as to send me a certified letter telling me not to contact her, come to her house or mail her anything. I tried everything humanely possible and nothing worked.

I had a reading done and I was told I needed to do remove obstalces and bring my lover back! I am actually having several things done because I was told by the practitioner that it would not be an easy road but it was doable.

In any event I am on your site because I prayed on the situation and God led me right here.

I am also looking to study under someone with experience and I was led to your site.

In any event I supposse I would have to have a reading done or divination to see if I am moving in the right direction once the work is done.

I don't have any of her hair or anthing I have clothes that belonged to her, underwear, panties, shirt.

The question I did have was I read somewhere the reconciliation only works if u have contact. We had no contact and we been seperated for 5 months. It ended bitter on my end because I was confused and wanted answers and the more I pressed the angrier she became. I don't really know what to do.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:14 pm

PoetikkApoztle, I recommend that you get a reading first to see if there is a chance for reconciliation. During your reading, ask questions about the possibilities and if you receive a positive response, proceed with recommendations from your reader. Identify a reader on the AIRR website found here, I would identify one who specializes in reconciliation/love work. http://www.readersandrootworkers.org.

PoetikkApoztle · Unread post by **PoetikkApoztle** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:00 pm

Well I am having the reconciliation done now with a honey Jar but I been reading I should also follow up with a return to me spell! I have had a reading done already!

Unread post by **Miss Ida Lundin** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:47 am

Reconciliation work can be done in many different ways. From your description it sounds like difficult work since you aren't in contact and she has clearly told you she doesn't want contact with you anymore. And it's been five months. But if you trust your reader you should do the work they had recommended for you. If you want another worker to take a look at your situation you can contact an AIRR worker.

If you want to order a reconciliation spell kit heres the link
http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html

You can read more about different reconciliation spells here:
http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html

You can also combine the reconciliation products with Return to me products
http://www.luckymojo.com/products-return-to-me.html

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:58 am

Are you saying that a person is working for you and has recommended the Honey Jar to start? ...and 'you' read that Return to Me should be a follow up to the Honey Jar? Actually you are on the right track...but we are saying that (1) If you have a worker, follow his/her advice, and (2) reconciliation work is a long process and the longer the time apart, the harder it is... and (3) you did mention that the person said basically, leave me alone...so you have to remove that blockage... That's why the reading was recommended but if someone is working with you...you should ask your worker these questions because they have the connection with you...

With that said Return To Me is not a Spell Kit (http://www.luckymojo.com/products-return-to-me.html) Return To Me Spiritual Supplies include the oil, incense, sachet powder, bath crystals, and vigil light. Any of these items could be used as past of the reconciliation work.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:32 pm

I like to combine return to me, and reconciliation work at the same time. I would either follow up or do the return to me work at the same time as the reconciliation work. Reconciliation work is basically to make up with someone that does not meant that they will return as your lover. This is where the return to me comes it, and gets them to return as your lover.

The reconciliation work is going to take TIME and PATIENCE. If things ended on horrible bad terms, do not expect POOF they are back. I am sorry that is just not going to happen no matter how good your rootworker is.

As for reconciliation working only if you have contact, no...your assumption is wrong. YES it works BETTER if you have some kind of contact obviously, but if you have not talked that does not mean that things are over forever. BUT thats where the reading comes in. If it indicates that there is a chance to bring things back together, then some contact needs to be made. This is something you need to discuss with your rootworker. And I feel like you are trying to rush this process along. Not having had contact for 5 MONTHS...is a long time, but if the reading indicates its not completely hopeless then you have a chance.

Also, I can tell you are overthinking the situation even though you have had a reading, and have a rootworker taking on your case. This is not going to help your work.

So it would be advised to go over these concerns with your rootworker. And you need to have a reading done NOW to see if you are going in the right direction, otherwise you might be wasting your time on a situation that might be completely over, and hopeless. The answer might be NO...no matter how long or what you do to work on the matter.

Positive78 · Unread post by **Positive78** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:00 am

I finished the reconciliation spell kit in December 2010 after a positive reading from AIRR member indicating this would be the best spell to use in my situation.
In mid Jan my reading indicated things were going well, positive signs that my target wanted to contact me but was confused about his situation (break up spell was also done in Nov 2010)and that target was being positively impacted by reconciliation spell work.
I know it hasn't been a full 3 months, but I've had positive signs as far as hearing his name, our song playing in the car days after I mailed the tricked reconciliation letter,
But a few days ago my target did send a text saying he dies not want anything to do with me, never wants to hear from me, and is done. Which is very opposite to what readings have indicated.
Could this just be part of how things are manifesting so I shouldn't worry.
Should I re-do reconciliation work now that we had a fight via text?
Can anyone pm me some advice?
I do have a honey jar going and have burned reconciliation, return to me vigils.

Positive78 · Unread post by **Positive78** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:14 am

I finished the reconciliation spell kit in December 2010 after a positive reading from AIRR member indicating this would be the best spell to use in my situation.
In mid Jan my reading indicated things were going well, positive signs that my target wanted to contact me but was confused about his situation (break up spell was also done in Nov 2010)and that target was being positively impacted by reconciliation spell work.
I know it hasn't been a full 3 months, but I've had positive signs as far as hearing his name, our song playing in the car days after I mailed the tricked reconciliation letter,
But a few days ago my target did send a text saying he dies not want anything to do with me, never wants to hear from me, and is done. Which is very opposite to what readings have indicated.
Could this just be part of how things are manifesting so I shouldn't worry.
Should I re-do reconciliation work now that we had a fight via text?
Can anyone pm me some advice?
I do have a honey jar going and have burned reconciliation, return to me vigils.

cutie1 · Unread post by **cutie1** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:53 am

Hi,everyone

I have a pair of lodestone that i got in my recocnilation kit but since am nit going to do the spell, because i have a worker doing some things for me i decided mybe i can ue the lodestone, the reconcilation oil, and the flannel bag and do something else with them.

Basically i have:
pink flannel bag
Two pirs of lodesone
reconcilation oil
reconciltion sachet powder
Balm of gilead
and some left overs ofthe hrbs that cam with my reconcilation honey jar

I also hav sme of his hair and a paper with his hand writing

Any suggestions what can i do with those items can i do anything with them and use that flannel bag.
Can i put the lodestones with apicture ofmine and his and some of our concern such his hair and mine and balm of gilead and plce thm all in the flannel bag and dress them with reconcilation oil maybe and crry it with me? and do i need to carry it on me at all times orcan i justcarry it in my purse?

So please give me suggstions what can i do with those things.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue May 03, 2011 10:27 am

I believe the kit comes with instructions for how to prepare that Reconciliation mojo bag. I would just use the instructions that came with it.

Of course, backing up the work being done for you is the other option. DId your worker instruct you not to perform the kit? You can always ask if it would be advisable for you to do that work as well, and see what they say.

phoebe2421 · Unread post by **phoebe2421** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:34 am

My story:

My boyfriend broke up with me 3 months ago and he got another girlfriend after two weeks.
I used to use Tarot to know his mentality about me and his current girlfriend. It showed that he is still in love with me and want to be together again but lack of confident and courage. To his current girlfriend, actually, Tarot always showed the negative result about his feelings and their relationship!~

I didn't contact him for almost 2 months (maybe send message one or two times a month), but he recognized to search my news often and he knew that I am waiting for him. I have already used the reconciliation Spell Kit two weeks ago, but I didn't give him the letter yet coz it's so difficult to ask him out!~ After using the spell kit, I burned the 6 inch pink candle in dressing reconciliation, Return to me and Fire of love oil about 3 times a week. The light of the candle become more steadily and there is no wax after burning for almost 4 hours. (Is it normal??) Luckily, his mentality becomes very positive and good (but still without any actions)!~

My questions:
1) Should I use reconciliation honey jar? (actually, I do not have his personal concerns, so I normally use his photos instead)
2) Should I use love me spell kit?
3) I would like to buy the Break up vigil candle (USD 17--- simultaneous burn), is it powerful enough? It's because the Break up spell kit is too difficult for me to do it in such a crowded city (Hong Kong, China)? or should I use separation vigil candle?
4) What protection do you recommend to do after burning the break up vigil candle? (I got the Fiery Wall of Protection Oil)
5) Should I burn some incenses together while burning the candle?

really really thanks for your help!~ (I am a new comer to this forum)

Phoebe

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:35 am

1. a photo is a personal concern
2. I would get a reading to check the progress of the Reconciliation Spell kit (http://www.readersandrootworkers.org)
3. You can certainly have Lucky Mojo set lights for you (Break up is what you want in this situation)
4. Fiery wall is fine.
5. Your choice...

...and welcome to the forum.

phoebe2421 · Unread post by **phoebe2421** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:48 am

Dear Jwmcclin,

really thanks for your help!~
As a am a really new user of Lucky mojo, may I ask what Lucky Mojo set lights is?

Phoebe

Unread post by **Cholie** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:50 am

Hi Pheobe!

I certainly agree with Jwmcclin!
If you can, go to: http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatcandleservices.html

Lucky Mojo will light candles for you at Missionary Independant Spiritual Church. I recommend you sent photo's to Lucky Mojo of the person's involved. I don't remember but I think you can send personal concerns...I would call lucky mojo to double check. They pray over the candle at the Church and they email you the results after the candle as burned.
I have used this service and it was excellent.

That is my experience...excellent.

Also, please contact someone from Airr so you can have a detail reading of what's the best way to appoarch this situatiion.

My Best Regards,

Eileen

Unread post by **Lillith74** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:10 pm

Can you modify a reconciliation spell kit so that you do not need to send a letter? I have a situation where a letter will do more harm than good. Suggestions?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:31 pm

Sure, you can certainly use any of the items separately or together. With that question in mind, consider the three options listed on cat web (http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html) fr reconciliation:

-candle ritual for the reconciliation of estranged lovers
-lodestone fidelity love spell; can be adapted to reconciliation
-Saint Anthony invocation for the return of lost objects and lovers

...and please read the discussion on the page...

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:14 am

There is a reason why the letter is sent. It is to open communication between the two of you and get him in touch with your trick.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:46 am

Exactly! the letter is an important part of the reconciliation and it gives your dressed letter a chance to affect them directly. You can certainly not send the letter, but its even better to send it anonymously than not send it at all.

Unread post by **Lillith74** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:02 pm

The problem is that the person to whom th letter would be addressed has asked for no contact. I understand the purpose of the letter- but it is simply not feasible.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:54 am

Like I said in the previous post, you can still send the letter anonymously. You dont even need to sign your name. Just send a letter or even a greeting card. Fix it with the reconciliation products...pray over it, or stay your petition, and then send it.

You can smoke it in incense as well if that helps.

The idea is proximity, and getting the products to affect your client. This is the best alternative I can give to this situation.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:24 pm

The Reconciliation spell kit calls for a specific letter sent from *you* not an anonymous one. It serves two purposes: to open up communication between you and your intended and to get them in touch with your trick.

If it is not feasible, then you need to work from an angle that will help build the relationship to the point where communication between the two of you is healthy and regular.

To do this, follow the advice outlined by starsinthesky7 who have you some good tips on how to send sneaky letters.

However, the idea of reconciliation is to heal the rift. If he's asked for no communication then use the letter as an opportunity to forgive and ask for forgiveness and to restore some friendship or communication with him. Along with the magical work of the spell kit it should soften him up to you. If you are hestiant to do this route, then go with the route of sending him sneaky tricks anonomyously then work the full spell kit with an open letter from you after you've received a positive response.

Unread post by **Lillith74** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:24 pm

Would you recommend that I do a honey jar spell or something else first? He has told me he wants to move on and wants nothing to do with me. It's been two weeks since our last contact- he was not over an ex girlfriend and is now dating other people. I can't break no contact right now. I have a lot of biological materials- I just need advice because I'm not ready to send him a letter. We had a very serious relationship that ended abruptly.

Unread post by **deep_waters79** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:54 am

I’m performing the L.M. Reconciliation Spell kit and at the very end of the spell it says to write a dressed letter. I came across this page (http://www.luckymojo.com/lovespells.htm ... letterlove). It says I can use any love-drawing ritual then augment its strength by following it immediately with this love spell, in which you send the person a dressed letter. So my first question is can I perform the dressed letter as described in the link? After all, I have to do a dressed letter anyways as part of the spell kit. The above link info just adds a bit to it. So it seems natural to do this.

My second question is the L.M. spell kit says watch and wait 3 days (after the 9 day spell) then write the letter. Would it be acceptable to perform the dressed letter love spell on the last (9th) day of the spell kit and not wait the 3 days?

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:17 pm

The idea behind the dressed letter is sound either way -- that is, as a stand-along or as part of a kit.

Reconciliation Spell Kit

Use in Magic:
Have you and someone had a foolish quarrel? Has an enemy jinxed your romance? Try Reconciliation to forgive and forget past problems, fights, and break-ups; to repair friendships; to restore love affairs; and to renew peace in the family and harmony in the home.

Spell Methods:
Lucky Mojo spell kits are the perfect introduction to folk magic for those who want to follow established methods; you will receive all of the ingredients needed to perform a full job of work, plus complete instructions for use.

Product Details:

SPL-KIT-RECO
Reconciliation Spell Kit
$65.25

You can order right here in the Forum by clicking on the blue Add To Cart button.

For more information, see:
http://www.luckymojo.com/reconciliation.html

Watching and waiting three days is traditional, and should be done at the closing of the work, not at the beginning or midway through.

Unread post by **JayDee** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:20 pm

I love the rec products from LM not only do they work but the smell is amazing I could smell that oil all day! As for the letter I had a similar issue with an ex we had a falling out and said some harsh things to eachother. Prior we had a friendship and I did not want it to end about 3mo after the issue I used the rec spell and sent a card stating that im sorry for what I said we are at a crossroad in our relationship and if it continues we wont be friends and never speak and that was never something I wanted, that id like to continue the friendship. I got a call 3 days after sending it and he also apologised.

your case it seems you want them back in love, but you can still send it like I did to open the door..besides if she wont respond to the card its unlikely she ever will.

Id get a reading on this person to see what will happen and also you can have candles set for you to back up the work while you do it, the candle reports are great on explaining the situation honestly they are invaluable.

Also iv noticed from reading many threads ppl are more affraid to take that first step to rec hence they wont send the letter, they want the person to come to them. Sometimes you have to take that leap of faith, trust God and hope for the best.

Good luck!

lovejones11 · Unread post by **lovejones11** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:42 am

I was thinking about purchasing a reconciliation spell kit but I wanted to know do i have to have personal item of him because I already used the only to hairs that I have in a honey jar and a mojo bag that I carry. I do have some of his clothes here but they are clean and in a drawer. I just needed to know before I purchase because It may be hard to get anymore hairs or anything like that.

Also could someone tell me what the instructions are also just so I can make sure That i will be able to do everything with out any problems??

Or is there another kit that might work as well to get us back together that might not need any personal items>>

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:21 am

lovejones11 -- read the above messages in this thread, and see the picture of the kit. We do not publish our instructions in this forum, sorry.

Regarding hairs and other personal concerns: There is a thread in the forum on personal concerns, but what you really should do is read the long article on personal concerns in my book "Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic." To make a long story short, without a personal concern, you have very little in the way of a magical link to the person and thus you could hardly be expected to overwhelm or out-power other influences in his life, such as his own free will, his own mental fear or anger issues, the intrusive will of interfering parties, or the wills of needy dependents who are not actively interfering.

A ten minute reading should settle the question of whether undertaking a reconciliation spell in addition to the honey jar spell will be of benefit to you. Se the thread on AIRR readers who do ten-minute readings.

RedBone_Jones_33 · Unread post by **RedBone_Jones_33** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:35 pm

Question 4 CAT: The reconciliation kit says to light another candle every Monday, Wednesday & Friday...Is it ok to begin the reconciliation spellwork on a Wednesday? Or must I begin the spell on a Monday?

artsie · Unread post by **artsie** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:46 am

Hello all,

I need some urgent help on my situation. I am in the process of doing my reconciliation spell kit. The 9th day is supposed to be the upcoming Saturday. My ex & I are on talking terms and today he asked me if I wanted to come visit him this weekend. We live 2 hours away from each other so I would want to leave friday evening. Now, I am not sure if it is okay to meet my ex while the spell is still going on. On the 9th day (Saturday morning) I would have to wake up really early and sneak into some place to finish my spell.. finish burning candle, light some incense, pray & put the lodestones in the mojo bag.. I think I will be able to manage this by doing some sneaking around his apartment.

Should I go ahead and meet him this weekend? Would this in any way hurt my on-going spell?

Thanks!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:43 am

Should I go ahead and meet him this weekend? Would this in any way hurt my on-going spell?

YES meet with him.

No it won't hurt your spell. Why would it? The whole point of the spell is to get you two talking and reconnecting in a positive way. He wants to spend time with you, which will have you talking and reconnecting in a positive way (as long as you don't let yourself get into an argument or something - be careful of that). So, the work is having the effect you want. Why would you reject that opportunity?

Enjoy yourself!

artsie · Unread post by **artsie** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:20 am

Thanks Devi!!

I re-read the instructions for the spell and it says that the stones should be touching on the 9th day..

1) does this mean that I have to bring them together on the 8th day so that they will already be touching on the 9th day?

I think it will be quite a mess if I try to take the tray of lodestones with me while trying to keep the reconciliation powder and the lodestones intact.

I was wondering..

2)) Can I just take the remaining candle and some incense and burn them early in the morning on the 9th day in my ex's house while the lodestones stay on the tray (touching themselves) on my altar in my house?

3) Can I take some reconciliation powder from the tray to trick some of the items in his house? or should I just use it to send the dressed letter after I come back?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:11 pm

1) You need to have them touching by the 9th day. I personally move them together closer and closer over the days, and have them touching in n the 9th day.

2)Yes, this is okay.

3)No, you can use the remaining reconciliation powder to sprinkle some in his path, dress gifts or letters, sprinkle around his home etc.

artsie · Unread post by **artsie** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:55 pm

Hi stars!

Thanks for answering my questions. However, I am a little confused about #3.. I am not sure which question you answered.. part 1 or part 2.

anyway, let me re-phrase it--

Can I take some reconciliation sachet powder (from the tray holding the lodestones) with me tomorrow to sprinkle it around his house?

Thanks again!

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:13 pm

Yes, you can.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:17 am

I think I misread the question but yes you can do as you stated.

lovejones11 · Unread post by **lovejones11** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:22 pm

If I have a matched pair of lodestones going should I keep theses going or start fresh and new once I start my reconciliation kit and the lodestones that come with it?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:40 am

Well, you can use the previous lodestones as long as they are for the same purpose and you have used them correctly.

Miss Raquel · Unread post by **Miss Raquel** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:48 pm

Hello,
Let's say that someone is in the "watch for signs" phase of a 9-day LM Love Reconciliation spell, and will be taking the bath/sending the letter this Sat morning. A realization was made that the work was performed during dawn rather than before dawn. She worked at 6:15am with sunrise occurring roughly at 6:40am each day this time of yr (PST). Early twighlight was visible, but not actual day yet. On Day 8, she slept thru the alarm and performed the spell at 8am. On Day 9, she wrapped up the leftover wax, incense ashes & sachet powder in red cloth and tied w/red thread & buried in earth near the front door.

The target initiated contact via email for the 1st time since the breakup on Day 1 of the spell with consistent friendly email communication throughout the week. On Sun (Day 7 of spell), she met up w/the target and he cooked her dinner at his apt. She sorta invited myself though. Several hours were spent talking/laughing, but no signs that he wants romance, though there were a few nice hugs and he kissed her on the forehead goodbye when he walked her to her car. She left at 1am.

When casting the spell, she used his man fluids for his personal concerns and her sexual fluids for her personal concerns (there was one intimate encounter post-breakup about 3 weeks ago where she was able to collect his stuff). She also tricked his tea about a week ago with her personal concerns. When she saw him on Sun, she wore the recon oil and sachet powder on her hands which he touched. She does know that the target loves her. He told her so not that long ago and she can tell, but he just doesn't seem interested in a relationship again. He left about 3 months ago out of the blue. The relationship had been absolutely beautiful up to that point. Very strange. A reading was done by an approved AIRR and the spell was recommended. So now that you know all the neurotic details, here are my questions.

1. Since the work was performed during dawn rather than BEFORE, should the spell be repeated? This is her 1st time doing anything like this & everything else was perfect. She did feel a powerful energy throughout the week. Very bummed and worried that the spell will now be ineffective.
2. Did she bury the leftover materials too early? Was she supposed to wait until Sat?
3. What now? Should she initiate contact or wait and see if he does?

Thank you so much. I know this is long. I appreciate any help you can provide. Many blessings! - Miss Raquel

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:10 pm

I have seen this question asked hundreds of times, the response varies but for certain it is better to be an "effective spell-caster" than a "perfect spell-caster" <as per miss cat> So timing may be off but have faith that your work will work....a very important step in reconciliation work involves contact. Now you can get a reading to see what is going on with your target which can guide you in the contact. Good Luck!

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:53 am

Miss Raquel wrote:.... He left about 3 months ago out of the blue...
1. Since the work was performed during dawn rather than BEFORE, should the spell be repeated? This is her 1st time doing anything like this & everything else was perfect. She did feel a powerful energy throughout the week. Very bummed and worried that the spell will now be ineffective.
2. Did she bury the leftover materials too early? Was she supposed to wait until Sat?
3. What now? Should she initiate contact or wait and see if he does?

Thank you so much. I know this is long. I appreciate any help you can provide. Many blessings! - Miss Raquel

Once a relationship is broken the chances that it will break again increases. This risk is even more present in cases where one partner needs encouragement by Conjure to return. That is why it is often recommended that additional work is done to keep the partner once reconciliation is achieved. Stay With Me, Nature Sacks and similar items should be employed and the relationship monitored for at least 6 months to year after getting back together.

Miss Raquel · Unread post by **Miss Raquel** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:01 pm

Thank you for your responses. The encouragement to believe in the work is so helpful. Love that comment about effectiveness trumping perfection. Golden.

When I contacted LM about my questions, I was told to post them to this forum for the answers. If someone could reply to the numbered questions, I'd be very grateful.

Also, when sending out the dressed letter this Sat, can a friendly, casual message be written in lieu of a direct request for reconciliation? He recently won a competition and since he immediately sent me an email to report his victory, it wouldn't be unusual for me to send a Congrats. I'm thinking a card instead of a simple stationery letter. I have seen this ques posed on the forum in the past w/varied responses. If the main objective is get his hands in the "dressing," then it seems like this would be acceptable. The trick will be delivered regardless of what the letter states. I'm down either way.

Thank you!!
Miss Raquel

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:25 pm

Miss Raquel wrote:...
When I contacted LM about my questions, I was told to post them to this forum for the answers. If someone could reply to the numbered questions, I'd be very grateful.

...

Miss Raquel, your questions were answered but you do not see it. Read jwmcclin´s statement again. Do you see that your list of questions assume things about how this works - such as importance of exact timings, that experiences of "powerful energy" is important for final result - and you miss the fact that worry, being unable to let go or failing to trust the work are far more important.

Formulated in your list it looks like this:

1. Since the work was performed during dawn rather than BEFORE, should the spell be repeated? This is her 1st time doing anything like this & everything else was perfect. She did feel a powerful energy throughout the week. Very bummed and worried that the spell will now be ineffective.

No. Such exact timings are of little importance unless you planned your spell according to a very narrow astrological timing. If you cut away the details and focus on the result, you will see that the work obviously had an effect. Good. Perhaps the final result has not been seen yet? Or perhaps it needs more than one spell to achieve long term effects?

2. Did she bury the leftover materials too early? Was she supposed to wait until Sat?

Why do you think this matters and not the fact that she is worried, lacks trust in what she did and have assumptions about the work that might not be the reality of her specific case?

3. What now? Should she initiate contact or wait and see if he does?
Now she should stop worrying and follow the flow. If she want to contact him, then do. If not, then wait. Stopping to think about it, make assumptions and worry is the most common fault. Learning to let a work go and ride on the wave of events is hard in the beginning but neccesary in the end.

If she is neurotic, then tell her to do her work gently. Experiencing powerful energies, expecting instant results and neurosis is a common recipe for a short career in magic.
Good luck!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:47 pm

well said Dr. Johannes

Miss Raquel · Unread post by **Miss Raquel** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:22 pm

Thank you, Dr. J. I hear you and appreciate you taking the time to help me see some Truth.

I have zero experience. I don't know what's important and what's not. Or maybe I do, and I just need to practice trusting my intuition. I realize that over-analyzing his every move & scutinizing over the spell details is not helpful. I want to learn how to let go and trust the process. I keep forgetting that this is gradual work that takes time.

1) Should the caster completely let go & not think about the work at all? Or still take some quiet time on Mon/Wed/Fri to focus on a positive result? The AIRR member I r'cvd the reading from suggested the M/W/F visualization meditation for recon work.

2) What about the letter question - is it ok to keep it light as long as it's dressed properly?

3) How do you know if more work should be done? I still have the leftover supplies and I do have a red glass-encased vigil candle. A true reconciliation is desired, not just get an email. Any suggestions?

Thank you for any guidance you can provide.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:54 am

1) Its about trust your work, and not overthinking. Overthinking meaning "omg did I do this right", " I need to do more work because this is not working" "why hasn't he called me" constantly checking their facebook, driving by their house, "But this isnt working", "my spellwork has failed"

Obviously its probably impossible not to think or doubt yourself sometimes. I get that. But if you are thinking this way ALL the time it will take a toll on your work. The best thing to do is get out and do things that you have been neglecting in your life. I suggest perhaps concentrating on different spell work goal such as getting more money or whatever after you have completed some reconciliation work or whatever work you really want.

2) Yes that is fine

3) How long have you been working on this situation? IF you just lit or started work yesterday, then there is no need to keep doing work on something you have no progress on just yet. I would say give it about 3 days to seen signs 3 weeks for movement...If after about a month you dont see any signs or movement, then I would get a reading. If you see that your candle has turned black or foggy which indicates some kind of resistances, or obstacles, then I would get a reading.

Miss Raquel · Unread post by **Miss Raquel** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:36 am

Starsinthesky7 - thank you for taking the time to reply. I appreciate your response and will stop obsessing. Things looked promising on Day 1 of the recon spell, to my surprise. I didn't expect to receive communication from him, which was the first time he's initiated communication since the breakup in Jan. Towards the end of the week things had died down. I'm sure I'm to blame by getting overly excited and suggesting we get together.

I mailed the letter on Sat morning. I said I'd like for us to have a conversation at some point because I hope to reach some level of reconciliation...wrote some other stuff....and then I implied that I accepted that we are no longer in a romantic relationship and some other stuff after that. Hope that didn't screw it up but it felt OK. I don't think it really matters what that letter says. I think it's more about getting it in his hands, which it will, and that letter was dressed to the max. The works. In the end, the letter was only about 4 sentences. Am I off about this?

So I guess I'll wait a month before doing anything. When I was watching for signs over those 3 grueling days, I got some that I think were signs. Not completely sure, but I'm pretty sure (it's my 1st time!). I came across a pic in a fashion catalogue that had a pic that looked a lot like us of a couple lounging in bed. It startled me...I went straight to my Iphoto and placed the catalogue pic next to a pic we had taken of ourselves in a hotel rm in Palm Springs, and yep...it looked just like us. A friend was over today and flipped thru the catalogue and she said, "Whoa...did you see this pic? It looks just like you and [target]." There were some other sign-ish things that happened, but I'm not going to bore you with the details when you probably can't determine if it's a sign anyway. I have a feeling that's on me.

I did poke some holes in my red vigil candle and put some recon oil in them. I also carved his name and mine on top. I don't know if I dressed right but I lit it. It's burning beautifully...the flame likes to dance a lot.

Sounds like I should lay low and observe for a month, correct? What about this candle that I already lit? Is it ok to keep lighting or should I dress it differently? I was thinking of doing a honey jar spell, but it sounds like I should chill the blank out.

Thank you all so much for being so generous with your knowledge and time. I love the idea of focusing on a diff spell...brilliant. That would help me get my head out of this one.

In gratitude,
Miss Raquel

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:49 am

I would finish up any work you are doing on him and then just chill out lik e you said. Do some work for yourself, and then come back to the work with him when you feel calm and focused.

Miss Raquel · Unread post by **Miss Raquel** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:31 am

Thank you! Sounds like a plan.

Here's an update:
I bumped into my target tonight. He unexpectedly showed up at a place where he knew I'd be. He was surprisingly flirty. His cousin was there too, who I'm friendly with and the cousin invited me to his birthday dinner which was also tonight. My target was there and a few other guys. My target walked me to my car when we were done, told me he thought about me over the weekend while he was at a music festival. He said he thought about me during this certain musician's set. The entire album this guy put out is all about still being in love with the girl who broke up with him. I asked him if it was during that set that he thought of me and he nodded yes and got teary eyed. He went to hug me goodbye and BOOM. A short-lived make out session in the middle of the street.

When I got home he texted me and said he just got the letter and that he would of course talk to me and that he would "never ever" ignore a request like that from me. My problem is that I always push him too far after he gives in a little and probably scare him off. Of course, in my usual fashion I called him after I received the text and had a minor melt down. Ugh. He was sorta cold although he was in the middle of a work project. He told me to go to bed, get a good night's sleep, and that we would talk whenever I wanted...tomorrow or Sat if I'd like. So there you have it. Just when I thought there were no signs of any movement something happens, unless it's all just coincidence. But I'm beginning to learn from you guys that if you're going to believe that these things are mere coincidence then what's the darn point in doing any of this work in the first place. I will proceed by chilling out!!!!! I hope I didn't screw things up with that hysterical phone call. I have a feeling that the magic is more powerful than my silly phone call though.

Thank you for your support. I actually think this is working despite my newbie obsessing and forcing things before it's the right time. I'm going to stop doing that stuff starting NOW.

Blessings,
Miss Raquel

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:25 pm

There you go Miss Raquel...its good to hear your positive results...

Miss Raquel · Unread post by **Miss Raquel** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:38 am

Thank you so much. I was happy last night and this morning he did email me a link to buy some tickets to a show he knew I would like that he is also attending, but he wants to maintain a friendship with me so it doesn't mean anything.

He was cold during out text exchange this evening and I'm disappointed. I'm beginning to think that I deserve better. He said if I wanted to discuss the letter tomorrow that he would. The letter had requested we discuss the relationship and reach some level of reconciliation, but it also said that I accepted that we are no longer in a romantic relationship, which obviously isn't true. Though I'm sure he knows that based on last night and some stuff I said afterwards. If I start talking to him about the relationship I will probably be inclined to discuss how hurt I am over the way he broke up with me, and the fact that he ended what felt like heaven. I don't see how this could be a good talk towards getting him back.

I think I may have to accept that this just isn't in the cards for me. I'm sad. I thought last night's events would lead to a change, but it doesn't seem to have meant anything to him. There was no compelling event that led to the breakup, no fight, just him out of the blue taking off after he had written me a letter that morning saying that I'm the most lovable woman he has even known. I don't know what to do about this talk now. If I say I want to get back together, he's not going to agree to it. I brought it up a month ago and he didn't want to but wouldn't say why. I'm getting confused about movement...don't know anymore what to believe. I wish I had some solid exp with this work so that I didn't doubt everything and could chill out and have more faith. I'm trying my best.

Is this how movement is? One step forward and then a step back? Thank you for your kindness and compassion.

Miss Raquel · Unread post by **Miss Raquel** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:31 am

Hi Everybody,

Here's an update:

I went to meet with him about the reconciliation letter and it didn't go well. He did not want reconciliation and still was not able to give me an answer as to why he left in the first place. I guess this just isn't meant to be. Seems so strange since it really did seem like I was seeing positive signs and movement. I'm beyond devastated. I don't think I've ever cried so hard in my life. Oh, well. At least, I know I tried everything I could. I know he still loves me and even though I'm sad, I find some comfort in knowing that. I'm exhausted from this work and all the energy I've put into it. While I was at his apt, I did sprinkle some reconciliation sachet powder on his pillow, in his bed, in his shoes, and on the handles of his work bag. Figured it was one last try. I also wore the reconciliation oil that night and rubbed sachet powder on my hands since I knew he would hold them, which he did. I miss him like crazy and it's hard to accept that he doesn't feel the same love for me that he once did. He was at one time, not that long ago, so in love with me. I don't understand where that love disappeared to. I'd like to still believe that there's hope, that the spell just needs more time since it's only beginning to be week 2 of the movement phase, but I don't know how realistic or healthy it is for me to keep going.

If anyone can relate to this or has any experience with the talk following the reconciliation letter not going well, please do share. I'm desperate for help and hope.

Blessings,
Miss Raquel Xoxo

phonehappy · Unread post by **phonehappy** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:07 pm

Hi,

My AIRR reader told me that I ought to start a honey jar for my friend that I want to reconcile with. She said not to do any compelling work... only healing. SO, unless it's real obvious I'm not exactly sure what products would be considered compelling. For instance, are road opening products considered compelling?

besides reconciliation products I'm not exactly sure what I should be using in my honey jar.
A LM forum graduate gave me an idea to put candles in a triangle around my honey jar to help increase the power, I love that idea but what can I do with the candles that are non compelling. Maybe one candle can be road opening (assuming this is not compelling) to help open the roads for his return (I was given this idea by the LM forum Grad) BUT I wouldn't know what to do with the other two candles.

Anything non compelling that will help speed this honey jar up. I dont really have time for slow moving honey jars but I have to take my readers advice on doing one... but I am moving soon! I literally have less than two months! He was suppose to move with us. MAYBE FAST LUCK?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:11 pm

Why don't you ask your worker which products would be appropriate? She probably wants you to use something like Reconciliation rather than Compelling, Controlling, Essence of Bendover, etc.

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phonehappy · Unread post by **phonehappy** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:47 pm

I don't know the protocol. It was a 15 minute email reading that I got on Saturday? Wouldn't it be inappropriate to ask for more without paying?

I do already know that she said no compelling that's why I was asking what I could use in my honey jar and on the candles

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