Numerology Meanings of Numbers Numerical Divination Questions and Answers

Messager In NYC · Unread post by **Messager In NYC** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:41 am

well it happen this morning I got up and there was 310 on the clock . but it gets better went to the bathroom ad when i came out the clocl said 4;45 . there is some thing going on here . and we will get to it

mscarib · Unread post by **mscarib** » Fri May 13, 2011 10:54 am

I just wanted to know what was everyone's opinion about doing love spells today? Seeing that Friday the 13th is consider the unluckiest day and 13th the unluckiest number?

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Fri May 13, 2011 10:57 am

To many people, Friday the 13th is a lucky day, especially if one was born on the 13th or 31st. There is also a tradition in hoodoo of "reverse bad luck," thus the products Lucky 13 and Black Cat, both for good luck.

mscarib · Unread post by **mscarib** » Fri May 13, 2011 11:29 am

Ooh ok thanks definitely understand

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Fri May 13, 2011 7:39 pm

http://www.luckymojo.com/lucky13.html

scroll down to where it says "Love Me" in red

waterlily · Unread post by **waterlily** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:53 pm

I heard that doing candle work during the month of October and November is not good magic, that you attract evil spirits. This prompted me to put a halt on all my work that is in progress. How far true is this?

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:29 pm

As far as I am concerned this sounds like nonsense. I have not heard of this practice though and wondered if you would possibly share from where you heard this advice?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:18 pm

I agree with Joseph ... I will watch to see others chime in on this one.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:55 pm

Disagree with stopping your work. This was a powerful time for anyone to be working.
October 31st -November 2nd.
my 2 cents.

waterlily · Unread post by **waterlily** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:43 pm

Thanks all for your replies.

AmaSarah · Unread post by **AmaSarah** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:58 pm

Let me start with my disclaimer that I am only quoting what I've seen written on another site because I have no knowlege of this whatsoever... but someone who seemed well-practiced and pretty knowledgeable wrote that work with darker spirits should not be done during Nov 2nd to Nov 25th because there is a revolution of energy in the underworld due to the gates being opened.

Like I said, I don't know but I'd be curious to see what others have to say.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:08 pm

I'm calling bullshit on both of these!

"Doing candle work during the month of October and November is not good magic [because] you attract evil spirits" wins the Herman Slater Memorial Award for "Stupidest Excuse for Telling Newbies 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Magic'" that i have heard in the past five years.

"Work with darker spirits should not be done during Nov 2nd to Nov 25th because there is a revolution of energy in the underworld due to the gates being opened" wins the Disneyland Ride Height Requirements Trophy for "Too Short to Ride."

There are many methods for timing spell-casting. We discuss them at the Lucky Mojo Forum, and the mods are always willing to share their own tips and techniques.

Here, to facilitate conversations, are all of the Lucky Mojo Forum threads that deal with timing as a way to link your spell's focus and intention to the powerful cycles of nature.

Spell Timing: Time of Day or Night, Clock Time
https://forum.luckymojo.com/spell-timin ... 11842.html

Spell Timing: Dates of the Month and Numerically Interesting Dates
https://forum.luckymojo.com/spell-timin ... t8110.html

Spell Timing: Planetary influences and the Days of the Week
https://forum.luckymojo.com/spell-timin ... t1429.html

Spell Timing: Astrology, Horoscopes, Signs of the Zodiac, and Planetary Aspects
https://forum.luckymojo.com/spell-timin ... t3022.html

Spell Timing: Moon Phases, Moon Signs, Moon Void of Course
https://forum.luckymojo.com/spell-timin ... -t442.html

Good luck.

AmaSarah · Unread post by **AmaSarah** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:11 pm

oh, my, that truly made me laugh out loud.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:51 pm

Me too! Thanks cat...

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:54 pm

How about this, I conjured a nasty demonic spirit just last night on behalf of a client and I'm doing just fine and unaffected by the revolution of energy

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Rarely will you find such "rules" in the practice of magic.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:44 am

This thread is a fine example to all of those out in Internet land seeking advice and suggestions "willy-nilly" like for anything concerning magical workings from any source at all.

I'm glad cat called "bullshit" first...I was on the cusp! LOL

autumnalflower · Unread post by **autumnalflower** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:56 am

I thought so too Joseph, I may be a noobie when it comes to hoodoo, but I haven't ever heard that or anything like it. I had always heard that all hallow's eve and the two days after where really good days for any kind of ancestor work, but that may be a bs thing too!!

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:57 pm

Good Lord-this takes the cake for bad magical advice I have heard this year. As another poster mentioned, I suspect this is coming from the idea that the veil between the worlds is thinnest at All Hallows, All Saints, Halloween, Samhain--whatever you call it--and that as a result there may be more "spiritual" activity-but not doing magical work because of evil spirits? Wrong, wrong, wrong! Thank goodness we have a forum so these questions can be asked (and answered!) correctly!
Blessings,
Bri

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:48 am

Oh man! I know I'm coming to this thread late (I've been on vacation). But LMAO!! Miss Cat you nearly had me spit-taking my coffee all over my keyboard with those zingers.

GoodLuckNatalie · Unread post by **GoodLuckNatalie** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:52 am

Quick related question:

It's tempting to take a bit of each herb one has at hand which appears to serve a given purpose. - what is the reason to keep the number at 13 or below? Does it muddle the effect? Is it similar to putting every spice in your kitchen in a single dish - resulting in making it taste bad?

I did an inventory of my herbs - looking for herbs that would help with my current purposes, and I had many to choose from. This is nice

. I've just been curious about the reasoning regarding keeping the number of herbs relatively low in a given formula.

I'm sorry if I've missed this somewhere obvious. It's not for lack of searching.

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:43 am

There are, in different cultures, different "sacred" and "important" numbers.

Insofar as the folk-mgic of hoodoo is a blend of the African folk-magic of slaves with the folk-magics of European slave-owners and bond-servants and the folk-magic of Native Americans and the folk-magic of other small American populations, such as Jews, Chinese, and Asian immigrants, you will find in hoodoo a reflection of those cultures and their favoured numbers.

Here are some ways to think about numbers. The emphasis is on THINK, not on "follow a rule-set."

1 is lucky in and of itself; one John the Conqueror root may be carried as a "lucky piece," and although not many people think of this as a "hand" because it is a solitary item, but stiil, it may be thought of as a hand.

2 is a pair and is highly favoured the world around in making love-charms; two of any seed, nut, bud, or berry stands for the two people who will love one another in a mated pair; this is found everywhere in hoodoo as well as in most systems of folk-magic; two small Lodestones wrapped in flannel, two Balm of Gilead buds, and other pairs are often used in hoodoo, and they need no third item to make them functional as a love-hand.

3 is favoured among Jews and Christians; to the latter it symbolized the Holy Trinity; it is also found in modern Hinduism as the Trimurti; it is a common number in many forms of folk-magic, from Stregheria in hoodoo, insofar as they are basically Judeo-Christian folk-magic; it is typically thought of as the minimum number of ingredients in a hand -- with the exception of a love-hand, which may contain two items.

4 is favoured among many Native Americans and some Asians; to some Chinese-speaking Asians it means bad luck and death; it is found in hoodoo among those of Native American lineage as a number of power; in Africa, especially in the Congo, it is a sacred number for the division of space, the crossroads.

5 is, in hoodoo, the most common shorthand representation of the crossrossroads cross (+ or X in a circle), the 4 corners being defined by 5 spots, including the center; this is called a quincunx by ethnographers.

6 is favoured among some Native Americans as representative of the six directions (derived as four planar directions and two vertical directions), but these tribes are not located in in the American South-East, where hoodoo developed, so 6 is a minor number in hoodoo, except as two groups of 3.

7 is favoured among Jews, Christians, and all cultures that engage in sky-watching, as it derives from the "seven sacred planets" -- 5 visible planets plus the Sun and Moon, portrayed as deities -- from which is developed the concept of 7 days of the week, each "ruled" by a God-Planet. It is a prime number.

8 is favoured by some Chinese people and is identified with the modern infinity symbol elsewhere; not central to hoodoo, but as the first of the notable binary duplicators (in the series 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 31, 64, etc) it stands for something that may endure for a long time.

9 is favoured among some Africans as three times three; it is less central to European folk-magic.

10 is a purely secular number, as can be seen with the decimal system, ten-based, with which skeptics and scientists have long tried to replace the older 12-based system of feet and inches.

11 is a prime number and a lucky winning number (along with 7) in the popular African American game of shooting dice.

12 is favoured among some Europeans as the number of Solar months in a year, as a very divisible counting-number, a dozen, which has many factors for its size; it is contrasted with --

13, the number of Lunar months in a year, which is disfavoured among practitioners of Solar religious inclination, but sometimes clung to by conquered people (both in Europe and the Americas) as a remnant of an older, vanquished sacred Lunar calender; hence, bad-luck that is secretly empowered as good luck, such as "Lucky 13" -- "reverse bad luck -- or the proverbial "baker's dozen" -- an extra, unexpected gift or price-discount.

There are other interesting historical and philosophical beliefs adhering to these and other numbers, such as 11, 22, 24, 99 and so forth, but these should start you thinking.

Now, the question that has not been asked is -- "How many people actually COUNT the number of ingredients in a hand?"

The answer: "A lot fewer than rule-obsessive people want to think!"

That's right -- the counting of items, the obsessive poring over of lists of herbs to make them come out to a propitious number is not central to folk magic as a whole. It has more to do with personality types than with cultural systems. In other words, in every culture, some people are "counters" and some people are not. The number favoured by any given "counter" will be culturally induced, but the desire or obsession to count is personal.

In fact, to those who are not obsessive counters, counting ingredients can seem entirely bogus, for, when Spirit says, "Grab this and this and this and this," are you gonna argue with Spirit that, "Oh, no, that's not an ODD NUMBER!"

Remember, thinking is what makes you human. Following rule-sets never lets you rise beyond the status of a well-trained dog.

GoodLuckNatalie · Unread post by **GoodLuckNatalie** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:20 pm

Thanks so much cat for spending the time to write such a gorgeously articulated response. I don't think I'm capable of being eternally obsessive with counting, but I'm very glad to get more understanding of the reasoning behind it. Bonus that it's appealling reasoning to boot . Thanks much.

fire_and_ice · Unread post by **fire_and_ice** » Wed May 09, 2012 6:49 am

Greetings,

After reading some of the Lucky Mojo web pages as well as some of the threads in the Lucky Mojo Forum, including this thread, I come to the conclusion that the number 11 doesn’t really have any significance in Hoodoo. Though, I believe that I read somewhere in this Forum that the number 11 has a reputation for bringing good luck to gamblers because of the dice game called Craps/Shooting Dice/Back Alley Dice having this number as a winning number. But that doesn’t explain why the number 11 is part of the name of the 7-11 Holy Oil.

In Hoodoo, is the number 11 a relatively neutral or insignificant number that doesn’t have any good luck or bad luck associations?

Also, and this question is most important: Are there any numbers in Hoodoo that are considered unlucky, numbers that one should avoid if possible?

Thanks in advance.

fire_and_ice · Unread post by **fire_and_ice** » Mon May 28, 2012 6:51 am

Hmmm...It's too bad that no one replied to my post. I do still wonder why the number 11 (eleven) is part of the 7-11 Holy Oil. I especially still wonder which, if any, numbers are considered unlucky in Hoodoo, numbers that one should avoid if possible. After doing some research, all I could come up with is, according to Hoodoo researcher Jeffrey E. Anderson, on page 106 of his book Conjure in African American Society: "[King] Alexander said, ten was an unlucky number, and Missouri's conjurers carefully avoided it." This sounds rather important: number ten is considered such an unlucky number in Hoodoo that conjurers carefully avoided it. Since, according to Hoodoo researcher Jeffrey E. Anderson, ten is considered quite unlucky in Hoodoo, it is disappointing that no one posted about this on this thread.

Jeffrey E. Anderson also states, on page 105 of the above-mentioned book, "According to King Alexander, three and seven were good numbers to conjure with, nine and five were better, but the best number for hoodooing was four times four or four times four times four." I thought the number nine was used only for Crossing and/or Uncrossing work in Hoodoo; I didn't know it was considered a lucky number for general good luck purposes. As for this: "the best number for hoodooing was four times four or four times four times four", well, I never heard that at Lucky Mojo, and I don't even know how someone would use "four times four or four times four times four" in a spell.

But I'm still most concerned about learning about:
a.) The number eleven (especially why it is important enough to be in the name of the 7-11 Holy Oil);

b.) The number ten, and if this number is considered as unlucky in Hoodoo as researcher Jeffrey E. Anderson reports it to be, how do Hoodoo practitioners go about avoiding the number ten;

and

c.) What the (other) unlucky numbers in Hoodoo are and how we should avoid these unlucky numbers in Hoodoo.

Well, I guess that the professional Hoodoo workers are busy with clients and such, but i do hope to receive a reply this time.

Thank you for your attention.

Unread post by **aura** » Mon May 28, 2012 7:39 am

Hi fire_and_ice,

As a general rule, hoodoo workers will favour odd numbers. But as has been mentioned above, not all Conjures count the items in their work, and among those of Native American descent, 4 may be important, despite not being an odd number.

Furthermore, how you count out items will be different from one worker to another so what is 9 items to one worker who counts only the roots in a bag, will end up being 10 to another who counts the name paper as an item.

Thank you for your scholarly reference on 10s. The only association I can see is a biblical one, the Ten Plagues of Egypt that Moses called down. But then, on the positive side, Moses also provided man with Ten Commandments.

Perhaps more well read members such as ConjureMan Ali and Miss Cat can provide you with an answer closer to what you were looking for. But I'll admit, that I don't usually think out my work that far. I look at the results rather than the amount of ingredients in the mix. If it works, then it was done right.

Blessings and best of luck.

fire_and_ice · Unread post by **fire_and_ice** » Mon May 28, 2012 11:56 am

Thank you for your reply, aura. Since much pertaining to Hoodoo is new to me, I do wonder about any unlucky numbers one should avoid. I'd rather have some knowledge beforehand instead of finding out the hard way that a number (such as 10) will probably bring me bad luck, especially if I use it in conjunction with a spell. Also, it is confusing that the somewhat insignificant number 11 is used as part (part of the name, at least) of the spiritually important 7-11 Holy Oil (which, as I understand it, has nothing to do with gambling luck, which is the only area that I know of where the number 11 has some significance).

Then, of course, there was that information about the number nine being very good/very fortunate for use with many types of spells, not just with Crossing and Uncrossing spells, but also with good luck spells, spells for attracting good things to you, and the like. I also didn't know that the number five was considered very lucky in Hoodoo (even luckier than both the number three and the number seven).

And then, also courtesy of Jeffrey E. Anderson, there was this: "the best number for hoodooing was four times four or four times four times four".

Now, catherineyronwode made some interesting statements a few posts back, such as:
"'Here are some ways to think about numbers. The emphasis is on THINK, not on 'follow a rule-set.'"
(My response: In order for me to THINK about these numbers, I need some guidelines. Though catherineyronwode gave some helpful guidelines, there were a few pieces of information missing, especially about the unlucky numbers in Hoodoo.)

catherineyronwode also stated "There are other interesting historical and philosophical beliefs adhering to these and other numbers, such as 11, 22, 24, 99 and so forth, but these should start you thinking." (My response: As I've already posted, 11 in Hoodoo is confusing.)

And catherineyronwode also stated "Now, the question that has not been asked is -- 'How many people actually COUNT the number of ingredients in a hand?" The answer: "A lot fewer than rule-obsessive people want to think!'" (My response: While this thread is primarily about the number of herbs/ingredients to be used/counted in Hoodoo/Conjure, I was most interested in the "luckiness" and "unluckiness" sort of qualities attributed to these numbers in Hoodoo in general, not so much obsessively counting herbs/ingredients. For example, I'd be disappointed if I learned that I had done a Spiritual Cleansing spell for an unlucky number of days, such as 10 days, the number 10 being an unlucky number that one should avoid [according to Jeffrey E. Anderson]. And according to the information provided by Jeffrey E. Anderson, this spell would most likely result in bringing a great deal of bad luck and misfortune my way [because of the use of the number 10 in this example] which is not the outcome that I seek from a Spiritual Cleansing spell.)

I posted in this topic because this is where a discussion on various important numbers in Hoodoo was already taking place. I didn't know if it was appropriate for me to start an entirely new thread on a similar topic.

I also noticed that catherineyronwode and Jeffrey E. Anderson have quite contrasting views about the number 10 in relation to Hoodoo.

Let's hope someone knowledgeable in this subject eventually replies to my posts regarding this topic.

Thank you for your attention.

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Mon May 28, 2012 12:10 pm

Understand that, like all divination, different people are going to have different association with specific numbers. I see this happen at least once a week with tarot readings. Yes, there is definitely a historical view of what these numbers "mean" and represent, but how you personally view them will also end up coming out in your own work. Since I was a very young child in grade school certain numbers already represented certain things to me, personally. Read the Hyatt books, one worker will say "I always only use this number of so-and-so in my whatchamacallit work" while another will say "oh no, I always use this amount." If you are looking for hard and fast Number Rules For Hoodoo you will be disappointed.

SHINE11 · Unread post by **SHINE11** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:48 pm

I am in need of the numerology in hoodoo, thanks.

fire_and_ice · Unread post by **fire_and_ice** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:16 am

Thank you for replying to my post, Joseph Magnuson. Just for the record, though, I wasn't asking for ironclad (or, hard and fast) rules regarding numbers in Hoodoo. Rather, I was asking about general guidelines about numbers in Hoodoo, especially about which, if any, numbers are generally considered "bad luck" numbers that are best avoided if possible.

Unread post by **Zola Kathryn** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:04 pm

I've never heard of any number being "unlucky" in hoodoo. Some numbers (3, 7, 13) I consider luckier than others, and some numbers (3, 7, 9, 11, 13) get more use in traditional hoodoo formulas than other numbers on the integer scale. I suppose if you were Thelemic, you could use 93 ingredients if you wanted to.

Best wishes

fire_and_ice · Unread post by **fire_and_ice** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:58 am

Thank you for your reply, zolakathryn. Since I'm not Thelemic, I don't think that I'll be working with the number 93 all that much, if at all.

Michael B · Unread post by **Michael B** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:19 am

I love this thread...
I'm 50/50 number obsessed and "moved by spirit"...lol.
Nevertheless, let me ask this: do most of you count petition papers and personal concerns as part of the "overall count" ???

Thanks !!
Michael

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:15 pm

Michael B --

Not me!

Unread post by **Joseph Magnuson** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:35 pm

I do not count the petition paper as part of the "overall count."

Love Unlimited · Unread post by **Love Unlimited** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:48 pm

Tomorrow is 12/12/12 .. these numbers won't line up like this again for another 100 years.
What's the BEST and most powerful way of using this day to make your desire come true? Let's not let this chance of a lifetime pass us by.

mystic_fae · Unread post by **mystic_fae** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:18 pm

It's also my birthday

BewitchingBelle · Unread post by **BewitchingBelle** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:19 pm

Another. Kdia fan! Amazing! I loved that station before it was sadly changed to a news format. They not only had great soul and gospel music but they were the only station that played funk music I.e. George clinton.

catherineyronwode wrote:Me too -- when i was a kid, the best r&b, gospel, and soul radio station in Oakland was KDIA Lucky 13!

KDIA Lucky 13, Boss Soul Radio (which was actually at 1310 on the AM dial) always made a big, happy deal about Friday the 13th, and i loved it. Read about this pioneering Black-owned and operated station and hear vintage air-checks at http://www.bayarearadio.org/audio/kdia/

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:41 am

Wow. I was just over at the site of a person who graduated from my course and sells spiritual supplies, and this person wrote the following:

"Traditionally, hoodoo doesn't involve numerology per se. There is very little done with common numerological techniques, i.e., the reduction of numbers to significant single digits which are then analyzed, etc."

Man, that is just WRONG.

I mean, seriously wrong.

It was written by a well-meaning and intelligent White woman who was never part of Black culture, either Black hoodoo culture or Black gambling culture.

When i was a kid, in Oakland, every hoodoo candle shop sold "The Secret of Numbers Revealed" by Godfrey Spencer. This book was a reprint of an earlier book called "How To Get Your Winning Number" by Lewis de Claremont, a pseudonymous hoodoo author best known for his book "Legends of Incense, Herb, and Oil Magic," who was associated with the very first hoodoo supply company, Oracle Craftsmen -- which opened in the 1920s and ceased business in 1940 or so, and sold all rights to books and to formulas to Joseph Spitalnick a.k.a. Joseph Kay, who founded Dorene Publishing and Mysteria products, both of which are still in business in Texas. But the book was originally written by Dr. Roy Page Walton in 1914 as "Ma,es and Numbers" -- and playing the numbers went back FAR, FAR earlier than that. Folks were playing Policy soon after Emancipation.

Numerology, including the reduction of numbers by digits, is HUGELY IMPORTANT in hoodoo. Dang. It is the basis of dozens of lottery work-outs, based either on dream numbers or on birthdate numbers.

I have in my music library at least 50 songs about policy and numerology -- like Lightning Hopkins singing he's gonna bet his woman's number. You can't get someone's number except through numerology!

All these dream books we sell with lists of names in the back, and their numbers -- most of them were worked out according to the regular method of adding digits.

This White-washing of hoodoo really is weird.

Ten years ago it was "hoodoo practitioners never did astrology." I proved that false (read all about it in "The Black Folder") and now we get this, "traditionally, hoodoo doesn't involve numerology per se"

Yeah, but, sweetheart. It DOES. It really does.

Lord, the tales i could tell, and i suppose i will have to. Madame Fu-Futtum and her bookie shop ... Carl Z. Talbot ... These were famous African American rootworkers who ran spiritual supply shops in New York City and took bets on policy and sold numerology books. I bought them! They were around all through the 1960s and into the 1970s. Mr. Matthew Murray was doing numerology for his clients, using the numerology of clients' names and' social security cards until his death in his 80s, around 2006.

C'mon, let's get real. We wouldn't have a Lucky Number Oil and a Lucky 13 Oil and an Aunt Sally's Lucky Dream Oil if NUMBERS and their manipulation weren't important in hoodoo.

I know, i know. This forum is heavily weighted toward folks with love problems. But "traditionally," hoodoo is important in the Black community for many more reasons than solving love problems. LUCK is one of the central concerns of a well-balanced and happy person.

Love -- they've got it.

Money -- they've at least got a job.

Protection -- they're covered.

What else is needed? -- LUCK.

And the "traditional" way to get lucky is to catch a number. And the ways to catch a lucky number? Everybody knows at least these three:

Dream of it, see an omen, or bet your name and birth date.

C - A - T - H - E - R - I - N - E
3 - 1 - 2 - 8 - 5 - 9 - 9 - 5 - 5
- 4 - - 10 - - 14 - - 14 - 5
- - 14 - - - - - - 28 - 5
- - - - - - 42 - - - - 5
- - - - - - - - - 47
- - - - - - - - - 11

Y - R - O - N - W - O - D - E
7 - 9 - 6 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 4 - 5
- 16 - - 11 - - 11 - - 9
- - 27 - - - - - 20
- - - - - 47
- - - - - 11

11-11 reduces to 2-2 and thence to 4 (but you would never really reduce it, because 11 is a Master Number, and is not reduced).

My "hidden" middle name (which i do not use) is anna --

A - N - N - A

1 - 5 - 5 - 1

- 6 - - 6

- - 12

- - 3

Thus my full legal name is

11 - 3 - 11

- - 25

- - 7

My birthdate is May 12, 1947:

5 - 12 - 19 - 47
- 17 - 19 - 11
- - - 47
- - - 11

Now look above

4 - 7 - 11 - 47 -- These are my MAJOR numbers, and of them all, 47 and 11 are by far the most prominent.

3 -- That is my MINOR number (i can use it with a 4, to make a 7).

That is an old-school hoodoo number workout.

And by the way, in case you were wondering ...

4711 is my lucky brand of cologne and 1111 is my Hoodoo Psychics extension number.

Unread post by **BrotherChristopher** » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:40 pm

wow, that is a number work out, and an impressive one at that!

I love it!

Wandering_Jew · Unread post by **Wandering_Jew** » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:21 pm

Are there any particular spells that are traditionally done on/around New Year's, to set the tone for the coming year?

Or does anyone have their own New Year's rituals that they'd be willing to share?

I've got some basil steeping in water to sprinkle around the entrances on New Year's Day, to try to encourage prosperity for myself and my partner in the new year. I'm also thinking that de-cluttering in the next couple of days might be good; clearing away this year's energy and issues, to make room for what we need for next year. I doubt either of those are traditional, though.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:59 pm

Hello, MsSyd,
Yes! Here you go: luck-in-the-new-year-t4091s20.html
Happy New Year!

Wandering_Jew · Unread post by **Wandering_Jew** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:41 am

Thanks Miss Aida! That's exactly what I was looking for.

I did try searching for 'New Year's' spells, but the search engine filters out both 'new' and 'year' as being "too common"... ah, technology...

There's just no substitute for human intelligence, sometimes.

Unread post by **clarkie** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:57 pm

Hi,

I am making a mojo bag, I read on the mojo pages that if you add several herbs together , they would count as 1.
And it also said you could pair 2 minerals and they would count as 1 So the question is .....
I am going to add a Queen Elizabeth root and Sampson snake root. Would that count as 1
or 2.

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:17 pm

Hello, Clarkie,

Everybody's different.

I would count the two different roots as 2.

Others might count them as 1. But my educated guess is that the general consensus would be 2.

Take care

Unread post by **MissMichaele** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:15 pm

Well, a pinch of mixed herbs could certainly count as one ingredient -- it makes sense to do it that way. But with two whole roots -- and different kinds at that -- you have to tie a little knot in your brain to count those as one ingredient. Count in a way that makes sense to you.

Now, I know of one spell for sex workers that calls for 21 ingredients, including seven pubic hairs: and those hairs are counted one by one as SEVEN ingredients. It's just the nature of that particular spell.

There are plenty of rootworkers who don't count ingredients for mojo hands at all; they rely on other principles. For instance, what Miss Cat calls a "narrative of intention" -- assembling your ingredients in a way and an order that tells the story of what you want to accomplish.

Miss Cat explains how she blends oils that way:

Re: Using Two Oils on One Talisman?
blending-two-or-more-oils-t8964.html#p3879

Good luck,

Miss Michaele

Unread post by **clarkie** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:38 pm

Thank you very much I have read your responses as well as the links and have a much better understanding of the overall process. -

Clarkie

AprilRaine · Unread post by **AprilRaine** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:30 pm

In HHRM when A Woman's Thirteen Year Right of Capture is explained, there were a total of seven personal concerns, seven of which were drops of blood. Something to consider when counting. (To total 13, that is.)

Unread post by **catherineyronwode** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:18 pm

To all the "number-ologists" out there --

If you get so hung up on counting that it does not come naturally to you, or you don't understand what your teacher told you because you don't have a teacher and are just thumbing through web pages, you are not going to learn much.

Michaele and Aida told you their ways, and i will tell you my advice: Either count or don't count, but if you do, don't try to make up your own rules, because that is just wasting your time. Do not take a "consensus gathering" approach to magic. It will render you unaware of the true intent and purpose of your work, cut you off from a living tradition, and just basically get you constipated. Get a teacher. A mojo is not some insignificant li'l thing that everyone can make for themselves. I learned how from many teachers, and you ought to as well.

Sillver9 · Unread post by **Sillver9** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:14 am

I noticed some of the controlling/compelling spell kits contain 9 candles. I'm just wondering what the difference is between some of the "power numbers" I've read about, like 7, 9, 11, 13, etc. Is there a reason for this number being used in the kit rather than using one of the other numbers? I'd like to understand the numbers for doing other spellwork, too. Thank you.

Unread post by **Miss Phoenix** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:32 pm

In Numerology all numbers have their own special alignments and implementing numbers into your spellwork is another way to increase the efficacy of the spell that you are doing. There is a ton of information on numerology. One book Lucky Mojo carries about this subject is "Numerology for Beginners," to get you started.)

And here are some links to specific magical numbers and why they are considered magical:
http://www.luckymojo.com/number7.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/lucky13.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/durgatriangle.html

Have fun!

Unread post by **natstein** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:03 am

Hello SIlver9,

Here is a link to all the books on the website. IF you scroll down a little ways you will find the books on numerology that Lucky Mojo offers.

http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatbooks.html

Peace~

Nathen

Eternal_Moonlight · Unread post by **Eternal_Moonlight** » Wed May 14, 2014 10:39 pm

How do you use numbers in spells out of curiosity? Do you simply carve it into the candle and dress it?

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu May 15, 2014 10:11 pm

Hello, Eternal_Moonlight ,
You would have to read the books and pages that Miss Phoenix has recommended earlier on this page.
And go to this page for more numerology books: http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatbooks.html
This is too complicated of a question to post an answer on the forum.
Take care

Luckbewithme876 · Unread post by **Luckbewithme876** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:57 pm

Is "Samhain"/All Hallows magically significant? Or is that just a Neo-pagan concept? I've been considering doing something interesting on that date, but IDK if Halloween being magical is just a myth or not.

Would my own emotions about the date make it personally significant? Halloween is, along with Christmas, my favorite holiday, and All Saints' and All Souls' are one of my most important religiously observed dates. I haven't heard anything about a worker's belief having any effect in hoodoo, but I might as well ask.

Luckbewithme876 · Unread post by **Luckbewithme876** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:05 pm

That post on counting numbers deriving as much from preference and practicality as from symbolism was great, Miss Cat.

One thing I want to ask is if I were, say, making up a mojo would the herb mixes on their own, such as seven herb, count as seven individual ingredients unless you want it to count as one?

Unread post by **natstein** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:46 pm

Hello Luckbewithme876,

This is one of those things that probably varies from worker to worker. If the rootworker is Catholic then Holloween night probably has some significance because of the upcoming all saints and all souls day. If they are a southern baptist (as a lot of rootworkers are) then it may have less significance.

The belief of a worker certainly has an effect on their work, if they did not beleive they could do the work they wouldn't be doing it.

In general I do not know of Holloween as traditionally having great significance in hoodoo in general (though I could be wrong in this and if so someone will probably correct me).

peace~

Nathen

Unread post by **natstein** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:51 pm

Hello Luckbewithme876,

This is another thing that varies by worker, I have heard it done wboth ways. Go with what feels natural to you. I personally do not count all that often unless it just kinda comes together that way. I would probabyl count the 7 herb mixture as 7 things (making sure I got some of each kind of herb in the work) but that is just me.

Hope this helps!

Peace~

Nathen

Luckbewithme876 · Unread post by **Luckbewithme876** » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:06 am

Nathen --

Thanks. I think I'll count it as multiple things.

fire_and_ice · Unread post by **fire_and_ice** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:23 pm

Not sure if this is in the correct place (but I hope it is).

From what I understand, in Hoodoo, there are some numbers that are considered somewhat lucky (or magically 'special', usually in a beneficial way) (numbers such as 3, 7, 13).

But what (if any) numbers are considered unlucky in Hoodoo? What (if any) numbers should a person avoid?

Unread post by **Miss Aida** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:23 am

Hello, fire_and_ice ,

I know that in Hoodoo, odd numbers are preferred.

I don't know of any "unlucky" numbers personally, that would be considered what is unlucky to you.

However, I also prefer always following the Hoodoo way of doing things when practicing hoodoo

Take care