Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour #08-10: Voodooed and Hoodooed (Miss Cat, Dr. Kioni)

[CKioni]

Please join The Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Radio Hour for 05/21/2008 at 07:00 PM Pacific Time / 10:00 PM Eastern Time.

Our guest is Goldie from Louisiana.

Goldie says, "I'm a mother of 5 children and everything has been going wrong. My closest family has been exiting my life; i am losing everything; my aunt and best friend passed away unexpectedly; everyone is turning on me; i been getting sick unexpectedly; having seizures; never had seizures before; got diagnosed with cervical cancer; been having pains shoot up and down my back. I need help and do not know where to turn. At this point i don't know if this is an enemy attack or generational curse. Whatever it is, i want my life back to be able to raise my children. My kids are even getting out of hand."

Tune in to the Lucky Mojo Hoodoo Rootwork Hour to hear what Dr. Kioni and cat yronwode have to say about this interesting case.

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[KM]

thanks for another great show cat and dr. k

KM

#1216

(Thanks for listening. And let me add that what really made this show unusual to me was the whole thing about Lafayette -- it really wigged me out that i know whom that woman is working with in Lafayette!!! --cat)

[MissMichaele]

Yay! I've already got "Voodooed and Hoodooed" half-transcribed.

Dr. K., I'll call you early next week about the transcription deal.

Michaele Maurer

[Madame_Nadia]

Well, I am really happy that I am not near Lafayette LA -- this sounds like a dangerous town where rootworkers are ruthless and without limits. And thanks again for a wonderful show and great ideas for remediation of a very complicated situation. Very inspiring!

Madame Nadia 1166 (G)

[KM]

of course you knew the woman lol!!!

the whole thing made me real mad

the destruction of an innocent woman

i picked the three of swords which was unfortunately a perfect summary of the situation

dr. k suggested in his forum we set lights on her behalf

i am going to use the michael candle

thanks again for the show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KM

#1216

[MissMichaele]

LUCKY MOJO HOODOO ROOTWORK RADIO HOUR

May 21, 2008

LIVE SESSION: VOODOOED AND HOODOOED with client Goldie

[MUSIC INTRO: Jug Band Waltz by Will Shade and the Memphis Jug Band]

[DR. KIONI introduces self, MISS CAT]

DR. KIONI: Tonight's guest is Goldie from Louisiana. She writes to say that she is the single mother of five children, and she has had many things going wrong in her life, with family exiting her life, losing her aunt, and best friends who unexpectedly passed away, along with unnatural sicknesses that just can't seem to be diagnosed: seizures, cervical cancer, and so much more that is happening to this lady. This is an interesting story. I believe that something is going to connect with you as we begin to talk about it, and we share remedies that will help. So, Goldie, welcome to the show, and please tell us just a little bit about yourself. I've given some background, and you may wish to add more. Welcome, and how are you, Goldie?

GOLDIE [difficult to hear under end of music intro]: I'm fine, Dr. Kioni, and thank you for helping me on your show. I am a single mother of five -- divorced mother of five. I've had a lot of unnatural things that have taken place in my life, especially within the last few years.

GOLDIE: My aunt, who was very dear to me, I ended up losing her. I don't know [why it happened]; she wasn't sick or anything.

MISS CAT: How old was she?

GOLDIE: Fifty-seven.

MISS CAT: Fairly young.

GOLDIE: Fifty-seven years old. We were fairly close.

One incident that really bothers me, that happened in December of 2004, actually made CNN headlines.

MISS CAT: Oh, really? What was that?

GOLDIE: I was eight months pregnant, and I had lots of complications of holding on to that child. He's here -- by the grace of God he made it through it all -- but I ended up letting my little brother come live with me for a while. And it turned out to be a disaster. I actually came face-to-face, at that point, with a demonic spirit. My brother jumped on me, punched me in my stomach, things he would not normally do!

MISS CAT: Do you feel that he was possessed?

GOLDIE: Yes! Yes, I do. I do feel that he was possessed.

DR. KIONI: And in what way did this story make CNN headlines? What made it special?

GOLDIE: I ended up trying to scare him away with a knife. The knife actually started twirling in the air -- after he had punched me and kicked me in the stomach, I fell and I threw the knife up. The knife kept twirling and twirling, and all of a sudden it aimed at him.

I did not see any blood on him at all, but I guess he had internal bleeding. My child jump in the way, and I don't know how he ended up getting cut in the process.

DR. KIONI: Now, is this the story in which you were telling me about a sentence was commuted?

GOLDIE: Yes. I was facing a 25-years-to-life prison sentence.

MISS CAT: Even though it was your self-defense.

GOLDIE: Right. I got my children taken from me. My grandmother, she came from Missouri -- her and my sister -- to get my children, because the court wouldn't let me have my children.

[DR. KIONI commences shuffling cards]

GOLDIE: I've never been without my children! I ended up going to jail. My aunt that passed, she put up her home [for bail money]. They took me and incarcerated me, and during that short period of time that they kept me in overnight, before the bail bondsman was able to do a bond -- I don't know if I went to sleep or if I was still awake, but I had the strangest visitation! I was circled behind a white light, and there was a guide standing there with a halo over his head, and all I could hear was a soft whisper, telling me that everything was going to be okay.

MISS CAT: Wow. So, what happened? Your aunt put up the bail money, and then did they --?

GOLDIE: My aunt put up her home and my grandmother had to send money. They wouldn't take out-of-state properties.

MISS CAT: I see. And then there was a trial?

GOLDIE: There was a trial, and I ended up going to get some help from somewhere else (actually, out of California). I ended up getting help, spiritual help, and I got the case dismissed. I was able to get my children back, but -- as we back up little bit -- now, that took place on the 19th of December,' 04.

December 25, on my grandmother's way back to Missouri with my children, the car flipped over -- with all my children in the car. My grandmother ended up getting pinned under the steering wheel, but the state trooper said a whole, complete family had died in that same spot the year before.

MISS CAT: Oh, my! And were they all okay?

GOLDIE: Yes. My sister said it looked like a movie, but there was nothing but angels surrounding that car!

I've had a lot of weird things happen to me. I've done suffered heart attacks, and then they tell me there's nothing wrong with my heart; my heart was fine. They did angioplasty on me; [holding back tears] I lost my hair.

I found out that my husband's mother is the one that created all this chaos.

MISS CAT: Your mother-in-law.

GOLDIE: My mother-in-law. It was to the point that I couldn't even get this lady out of my home. And I ended up leaving my husband. That's how I ended up in Louisiana.

MISS CAT: Wow.

Let me get some narrative chronology here; I want to put this in kind of timeline order.

When you found out that this was your mother-in-law (now ex-mother-in-law), was that before or after your brother attacked you?

GOLDIE: This was before.

MISS CAT: So you knew that you had an enemy before the brother attacked you.

GOLDIE: Right. This has been going on -- I'm thirty-four years old -- this has been going on since I was about, maybe, fifteen years old. I left home at fifteen years old, and was dating her son. And I really think she wanted her son for herself! Because when she told me that I stole her son from her -- at that time I was a fifteen-year-old teenager!

MISS CAT: That's a very common -- it's a very sick kind of mentality, but it's not that rare that a mother will cling to her son to the point that she will try to wreck the marriage, she will try to harm the daughter-in-law, and even, sometimes, harm the children. But sometimes she just wants to harm the daughter-in-law so that she can end up with children.

GOLDIE: She wants to end up with the children for -- what, a [child-support] check? That's what I was told -- for a check!

MISS CAT: Sometimes it is for a check, and sometimes it is because she cannot possess her son, but she can possess the younger children; see, the son is grown up, he's become a little independent [so] she's going to try to get the grandson.

GOLDIE: Every time that woman, Miss Cat, went back to Lafayette, Louisiana, it wasn't a good seven days before something else went haywire in my life!

I've done had a force push me through my shower door -- my shower just shattered. I got cut from head to toe.

MISS CAT: Well, I do know some very powerful workers who live around Lafayette, so she may be getting help! When you've had readings done, has any reader ever said that she's getting help from somebody?

GOLDIE: Yes! Even gave me an initial.

MISS CAT: What was the initial?

GOLDIE: M.

MISS CAT [laughing]: Well, that's exactly what I was going to say!

GOLDIE: Mararia, Marion, something like that.

MISS CAT: Mm hmm!

GOLDIE: And then a couple of months ago, my son, when I went back to Lafayette, to take my kids to their family reunion, my son said, "Oh, I went with my grandmother to this lady named Meria."

I said, "Excuse me?"

MISS CAT: Well, there certainly are some people in Lafayette who know how to do this business. And we know they do it -- that's just the truth. People often think that New Orleans is where all the "voodoo queens" are, but I'm here to testify that there are more people in Lafayette who do this work [than in New Orleans].

DR. KIONI: I have a lot of clients who call me from Lafayette.

MISS CAT: I don't know why, but it's just one of those places where they're thick out there. The woods are just thick with that kind of rootworkers out there.

GOLDIE: Right. I was told that it was done on the bayou.

MISS CAT: Right.

GOLDIE: My hair was taken out of a brush --

MISS CAT: Yes. Yes. That's right. That's how they do it. Okay, we kind of understand what's happened to you now.

I'm going to ask you a couple of other questions because you've had some medical issues here, and I want to clear those up, too. You said that you have had seizures; are you getting adequate medication procedures?

GOLDIE: Yes. I've even been to the neurologist, and the neurologist is, like -- they don't know what's going on, because when I came in, I was having a seizure. I had a seizure in the hospital. They kept me in the hospital two weeks. This was September 13 of last year [2007], my last hospital visit. And they've been keeping me on the medication. And I recently took myself off the medication, because I'm saying, "I don't need this medicine."

MISS CAT: And you haven't had any more seizures since then?

GOLDIE: I've been getting sick. I've been feeling like I've been getting blows to the back of my head.

MISS CAT: All right. I want you to continue to see the doctor. They may have given you too strong a dose of the medicine, but it's not a real good idea to cut yourself off cold turkey. But go back to them and say, "I think I don't need this medicine; maybe I need a lesser dose or a different medicine, or we could take me off that gradually."

But don't -- just because the medicine maybe caused some side effects you didn't like, or you felt that you didn't need it anymore -- I want you to stay in touch with your neurologist. Check in with them, because I'm going to explain to you why:

When someone attacks you, the only way they can attack you physically is through your own physical body, unless they were going to cause you mental distress or mental illness. But if they're going to cause you physical illness -- which is an easy way to attack somebody -- they attack your weakest system.

Now, in your case, by your having seizures, this demonstrates that this is a system in your body that is already a little weaker than it might be in someone else's body. Someone else might get an asthma attack; someone else might get, you know, swollen legs.

Now, you've had a number of events here. You've had -- angioplasty, you said? -- so you've had a heart condition; you've had seizures.

Some of these things, the seizures for instance, can be caused by the medication they give you for your heart! I mean there are a lot of these drug interactions. So I want you to be very careful with your doctors.

Now you say you've got diagnosed with cervical cancer, and I want to make sure you're getting treatment for that too, right?

GOLDIE: Yes.

MISS CAT: Okay. Because I don't like to hear, and I don't want to deal with, anybody who says, "Oh, I won't go to the doctor. I'm only going to get myself spiritually cured." Because I do want to see that you get the adequate care; and it seems like you're aware of what you need in that regard.

GOLDIE: Yes.

MISS CAT: But keep on checking in with them. You might want to ask -- and this is perfectly normal to ask -- that all of your different doctors have a conference with you at once. [Ask that] "we all sit down, and we'll have a talk about drug interactions." Okay? Because you've got a cardiologist; you've got a neurologist; and now you've got an oncologist, right? You need to get those three people talking to each other, and talking with you, and talking about how this is going to be handled. Because, no matter who's attacking you spiritually, you still have real [medical] doctors who are trying to work with you, and they may not all know what each other is saying.

I feel that it's important to tell you that, all right? So get all your doctors on the same page, here. And, if necessary, ask if you can have a group consultation with them all, or that they can share the paperwork between them. They often do not do this. I've seen this happen, so just be careful.

Now, while you have so many medical conditions, it's easy for this woman to attack you. And she's going to get you each way you turn; she's going to -- you know -- turn another way and get you. You've got three [physical] systems now compromised; you've got cardiology, you've got neurology, you've got oncology [physicians] working on your behalf, but she's now compromised three systems for you.

And that's on top of the really strange events such as the car flipping over, the spiritual attack. So you've had a lot of attacks.

Now, Dr. Kioni has been laying down the cards, and I want to hear what he has to say. When he does a card reading, he will lay down four cards, and sometimes another group of four. They will be in the form of Past, Present, Future, and Outcome, which is the result.

So let's hear what Dr. Kioni has to say about this situation.

GOLDIE: Yes, ma'am.

DR. KIONI: Thank you, Cat. Well, we have our first set of cards which answer the question, "Why did the mother-in-law attack you? What is her intent behind all of this?"

Past: 10 of Cups, reversed, which does indicate a lot of family squabbles here. So this is personal; it was indeed done to destroy that which was in the process of being built, which evidently, I would say, had some value. So you and this young man had been together for quite some time, obviously. And you had begun to build a life, correct?

GOLDIE: Yes. Sixteen years.

DR. KIONI: So that 10 of Cups reversed is definitely an indication of domestic un-settlement.

Present: the Son [Knight] of Cups, Cat, is reversed. So that is definitely the intent: to move the person who was the object of the mother's affections out of the picture, out of Goldie's life.

Future: Seven of Swords. Definitely a card which we can identify as war; a card that definitely gives us a feeling of someone who is moving against you and working to stop you, and to make your life a living hell; to bring depression into your life, and misery; to keep you from advancing at all; and to tie you, so that anything you would seek to retaliate with would be ineffective.

Outcome: Page of Wands, reversed. The mother of the young man is seeking to dominate you into submission, to just continue to work and to work and to work until she totally annihilates you. And this is the type of person that she is. She is relentless in her attack. She's extremely serious about this. This is a very serious situation that you have.

That's what I see with the first set of four cards, Cat.

MISS CAT: I would agree with those. The Page of Wands as the Outcome is kind of an interesting card, because it can also mean repression or problems with self-esteem; it can lead to all kinds of hidden problems. These are not really great cards here, but I certainly agree with you that the Past, the 10 of Cups reversed, is a card of happy family life "reversed." She wanted to take it away. She definitely wanted to take it away. So, yes, I agree with you; this would definitely point to the mother-in-law as the one who did it -- out of jealousy, wanting to have what you had.

DR. KIONI: Now, the cards do indicate -- a second set of four, Cat, if I may -- in response to the question, "Can this be defeated?" The answer is encouraging, so let's talk about that! And then, of course, I'm sure that you have some remedies you will want to share.

Past: Four of Pentacles. A good feeling with this card, to begin to rebuild the foundations of your life and get you, Goldie, put back together again, if I can use that metaphor, okay? There is help in the cards with someone who is much more experienced than yourself, and who brings to the table a [level of] experience that is beyond the capabilities of those who are attacking you, and that is evidenced by --

Present: the King of Cups. So I believe that tonight, you are here because you are at the crossroads and you are at this major junction in your life where help is going to arrive. And I believe you need to be encouraged by this, and you want to stay in an attitude of expectancy, gratitude and faith, and thank God (or your Higher Power, however you wish to address It) that the answer, the help, is coming. Now how is this all going to work out in the future? [That's] the question.

Future: Two of Cups, reversed. And this says a couple of things to me, Cat and Goldie: 1) There are some associations that have to be broken -- really, really broken; some family ties are going to have to be severed completely with these individuals. 2) I believe that this also speaks to -- and I don't know if you have, Goldie, but you probably need to release this man from your spirit and your heart. I feel like you haven't done that, and you're still trying to hold on, hmm?

GOLDIE: [unintelligible]

DR. KIONI: How do you feel about it?

GOLDIE: You're right, Dr. Kioni -- because I think about the good times that we did share. And I know I'm coming to a point where I have to let go.

DR. KIONI: Yes, you're going to have to let him go. I believe you're going to have to --

GOLDIE: [unintelligible]

DR. KIONI: Yes, I'm sorry. Say it again?

GOLDIE: It was a very unhealthy relationship, it was unhealthy.

DR. KIONI: Yes, and there's definitely work that you need to do to sever these ties. When was the last time you were intimate with him?

GOLDIE: April of 2003.

DR. KIONI: All right, well, that's good, there.

Outcome: 10 of Wands. This indicates winning, but not without struggle. This is one of these so-called "high fences" that we encounter every now and then, Cat.

And I played one more card to summarize it all, making a total of nine: that is a Eight of Pentacles, which would point to someone who has much more experience, with the capability and the esoteric knowledge, if you please, to help her overcome her enemies. And so I feel that the cards to favor, if you please, your transformation and your resurrection from this nightmare. But it's going to cost you relationships. It is going to also be a little bit of a challenge and a struggle. Yes, you can get through this!

Okay, Cat, that's what I got here. Here we go!

MISS CAT: All right! I'd like to add one thing here as to the Outcome. You said it was the 10 of Wands?

DR. KIONI: Yes.

MISS CAT: And it does indicate victory in battle -- and it does indicate a long battle. It's not like it's going to cave over [cave-in] to you.

Now you've been battling this for a while, and I think what he is saying, and what I'm seeing in this, too, is that you are going to have to break those ties; not just being intimate, but even revisiting the past. You're going to have to move on and get these people out of your life in some way. Because otherwise there will be a constant struggle. But paying attention to details -- the last card, there -- don't fall into comfortable ways of thinking. There are signs here that you can make progress, but you do have a heavy load, as I see it. And they've certainly put a heavy load on you.

You asked, when you first wrote to us in your message on Dr. Kioni's website, if this was an enemy curse, or a generational curse, or whatever. It's an enemy curse. It's not a generational curse. This is a particular jinx that's been put on you, a particular hoodooing of you, and it is not something that runs for your family, or anything like this. It had to do with these particular people.

Now, I'm going to be a little bit strong, here, in telling you what I think you can do. I think you're going to need to be continually vigilant. I don't think this person -- the mother-in-law -- is going away real fast. She's not going to give up real fast. What she wants is nothing more nor less than for you to be dead; we know that already. She wants you to be dead, and she wants to take the children.

So you are going to have to work very hard to keep yourself strong. And as I said before, when I mentioned getting in touch with your doctors, I'm very serious about that; you need to keep on top of all the things that need to be done that way. And you might need to have a second consultation with those doctors.

Then I want you to be taking baths to cleanse yourself. There is some way, and I'm not quite sure how, but there is some way that she is getting to you. How far away does she live, and how far away are you from these people in Lafayette?

GOLDIE: Right now, she's visiting Lafayette, because she actually lives in San Pablo, California.

MISS CAT: Oh, really! Very near to me! And so she's now near you.

GOLDIE: Yeah.

MISS CAT: And has she come to see you?

GOLDIE: No.

MISS CAT: Has she come to see the children?

GOLDIE: No.

MISS CAT: Does she have visitation with the children?

GOLDIE: No, they lost all their visitation rights due to domestic [violence? -- MCM].

MISS CAT: Okay. That's good, because she's not trying to use the children to get at you. In other words, sometimes people will put powders on a child, or oils on a child, and then when the mother touches the child, she picks it up. So she's not able to do that.

The kind of work they're doing is probably more done with doll babies, and maybe with candles.

GOLDIE: I have seen several candles in her room, and I never knew what they were for. They were black and red. I've seen an all-black candle, and things of that nature.

MISS CAT: Yes. She's obviously a practitioner, and has been using this stuff. Black-and-red candles are often used to send something back to an enemy; black candles are used to hurt somebody. And so she was definitely working on what we might call the darker side of things. You weren't seeing any nice white candles, or pink, or red, or anything for love. No, she's a heavy-hearted person, and she's working a very dark side of things.

GOLDIE: Very heavy-hearted, because I believe -- Now, I had custody of my brother when he was 15, and he's 29 now. And he ended up getting 94 years for a crime he didn't even commit.

MISS CAT: Oh, my!

GOLDIE: All that -- just wasted! [A quiet sob]

MISS CAT: Oh, baby. Now, when you say he got 94 years for a crime he didn't commit, -- all of this has happened after this woman has been introduced into your life?

GOLDIE: Yes.

MISS CAT: And this is a different brother from the one who attacked you?

GOLDIE: Yes.

DR. KIONI: Let me say here, Cat, real quick, to continue the thought, that there is more than one practitioner involved here. I just got a hit on that. I believe she's seeing three practitioners.

MISS CAT: I can well believe that, and I know the name of one of them, and I'm not kidding. I really do. You're going to need to do a lot of work to keep yourself cleansed and protected, honey. This is going to be an ongoing battle.

Do you do any sort of bathing or cleansing? Has anyone ever told you or given you any baths to take, to cleanse stuff off of you?

GOLDIE: No, ma'am.

MISS CAT: All right. Well, I'm going to start you off with some of that. These are simple herb baths. They're made according to really old recipes and formulas. One of them is called the Uncrossing Bath; another one is called the 13-Herb Bath. You can mix them, or you can use either one separately.

Uncrossing Bath is a crystal salt bath, and you can add that to water and bathe yourself. And as you bathe yourself, you're going to want to say the 35th Psalm and the 37th Psalm; the 35th for justice, and the 37th to get rid of evil people hurting you. You also might want to say the 91st Psalm. 13-Herb Bath is similar, it's just all made of herbs. It's an old-fashioned type of bath.

You can use whichever you like, but I'd like to see you start bathing on a regular basis, because these attacks are going to come on a regular basis until she either gives up or dies. First of all, make sure that you have some cleansing, because these things are coming at you in waves, and you need to take them off.

DR. KIONI: Cat, when you say "regular basis," how often?

MISS CAT: Well, I would say at least once a month -- and it could be as much as once a week -- that you would just take these herbs, boil them up and bathe with them, just stroke your body downward. Start with your arms crisscrossed, and just move them outward and say, "Remove this evil from me." Because she's sending this to you over and over again -- you know what I mean? This has been going on now for years, and she just doesn't stop. The things that have been happening to you have been just one wave after another to you and your family and to those who love. But the bathing will help; it will help take off the attacks as they happen.

But then we need to set up some protection for you. And then the third thing is: we've got to find some way to bind her and keep her down. That's a little more heavy, but we're going to get there eventually, because she's not going to stop until someone does put her in her place.

So the next step after the bathing -- and I believe you're going to have to do this on a ongoing basis (I read this off the 10 of Wands card: a constant battle. You're going to have to be vigilant) -- the protection that I would like to put up is a --

If I may ask, are you religious at all?

GOLDIE: A Baptist. I believe in God.

MISS CAT: Baptist? Okay, that's all I need to know. All right. Because if you told me you weren't religious, I wouldn't tell you to read the Psalms.

GOLDIE: Oh, no. I read. And these are three scriptures that you gave me -- I read those every night!

MISS CAT: Oh [laughing], all right!

GOLDIE: That's why I'm looking down like -- wow!

MISS CAT: Another good thing to do for protection with the 91st Psalm -- which is just to protect against damage and, you know, this being sent to you -- you can take that, make a photocopy from a Bible of the 91st Psalm, or you can just get it on the Web and just print it out -- and I want you to put that under your bed between your box spring and your mattress. Or just put it between the slats and the bed, or however you want to do it. I want you to be sleeping on the 91st Psalm. Some people would just put it on the floor under the bed. Some people don't like to put a piece of the Bible on the floor, and they would put it between the box spring and the mattress. Just that 91st Psalm, you print it out, but I want you to put some herbs with it too.

So, if you want to, get an envelope. You can put into the envelope the 91st Psalm, and I want to put these herbs in:

*Angelica root powder -- that is an herb that is for protection by angels. We know you've been protected by angels before. There is a power for good as well as power for evil; and we know the power for good will not let evil triumph. And we know that Angelica root powder is from a beautiful plant that's called Angelica or "the angel root," people call it. You can also take a little of that powder, if you like, and you put a little of it into some whiskey -- it's a little bitter -- but you just take a little bit of that powder and put it in there. Let it sit, stir it up and then drink it. You can let it sit at the bottom of the bottle for quite a while, and then just sip out of the bottle; you know, just shake it up and take a little sip every once in a while -- a spoonful; you don't want to be drinking a lot of it. It's a very good protection; it'll protect your insides as well as your outsides if you drink a little bit of it. It will not harm you to drink Angelica powder in a little bit of whiskey or however you like to drink it. And when they put it in wine, people call it Angel wine. So the Angelica root is going in the envelope with the 91st Psalm. I like to use a larger size envelope, so I can lay everything out flat.

*Flax seed -- it's very good for your health and also helps eliminate ailments that come to you; it helps eliminate them spiritually.

*Silver dime -- you'll have to do this yourself, because I don't know any place that will sell this to you. It has to be from a silver dime. It cannot be one of these modern dimes that are made of copper that's coated; that won't work. It needs to be a silver dime. We sell them in our store, but you can also get them at a coin store, or on eBay. Take a silver dime -- a Mercury dime is the best -- and you want to get a big file. Buy a metal file down at the hardware store, and I want you to file all the ridges off [the edge of] that dime. It comes with little ridges all around the edge. You just file those ridges off -- file, file, file -- and you're going to end up with a little pile of silver filings from the dime. I want you to put that into that envelope.

You can also, if you want, take another dime and file off the ridges, put it in milk and drink it. And that is another way to clear out poisons that have entered your body, because she is trying to poison your body [by means of spiritual attacks].

You could also put that in the wine with the Angel Root powder -- either way. But you want to be drinking a little of the silver dime filings. One of the most common ways to use silver dime filings is to warm up some milk, put the silver dime filings in there, stir it up and just drink it down.. I want you to do that.

First of all, you're going to put those three things in that envelope under your bed. Then I want you to drink that little concoction I told you about -- either just the angel root in the wine, or you can take the silver filings [in milk] one time; you don't need to do that every time. But I want you to drink that again every time you take the bath. I want you to do that at least once a month. Maybe you could drink the Angel wine [as often as] once a week. And the day that you should do it would be a Sunday. That's because Sunday is for your health, and it's a good day to call on the Lord for help.

So those are some of the things to do to protect yourself internally from what is being sent to you to harm your body.

Now, I want you to do one other thing for me, which is to take the names of your doctors. I want you to put their names in a jar of honey -- molasses, or sugar, or pancake syrup, or something like that. If you can get their three business cards -- because you have three doctors at least -- or you can get their names on paper -- you can just hand-write them -- but if you can get anything personal of theirs, their business card is stronger.

I want you to write across each card, "My name is --" and put your real name down. I'm just going to make up a name: "My name is Loretta Jones." And you're going to say: "And I am your favorite and best patient. All the work you do, you do for me. All the strength that you have in your hands is for me. All the thoughts you have in your mind are for me."

You just write this out freely; it doesn't have to be exactly the way I said it. Just write that on paper. And you put those papers into the jar of honey. And as you put them in, I want you to push them down in the honey, and then lick your finger -- (smack!) -- where it touched the honey. They'll float back up to the top, but don't worry about that.

Just lick your finger and say, "As honey is sweet to me, so will Dr. So-and-so be sweet to me, and I will be his or her most important patient."

The reason I tell you this is because doctors have a tendency to just go through one person after another. We want you to be the person that these doctors are thinking of.

DR. KIONI: That's a good one.

MISS CAT: -- That they are going to give you the right diagnosis and the right treatment. You want to have those doctors on your side.

You can also use this for your brother that's in prison, if he's ever coming up for parole. Is there a possibility of parole?

GOLDIE: Right now, I've been working with the Innocence Project --

MISS CAT: Good!

GOLDIE: -- to take his case, and they finally just took his case.

MISS CAT: Good. Make a different honey jar. Put their names -- this is the honey jar for your brother -- put the names of everybody you know at the Innocence Project in there. Put the names of the warden, the district attorney -- everybody that can help him. Even if they fought him at the beginning, put their names in the honey jar, and say, "Favor his case! Favor his case!" Burn brown candles on that honey jar and say the 35th Psalm continually over that honey jar. That's going to help him. We need to get him out if we can, because that's injustice, and that will not stand. We need to call upon help, and I'm so glad that they're going to help you! That's good.

Dr. Kioni, do you have any ideas about putting a final end to this situation?

GOLDIE: Please tell me, Dr. Kioni.

DR. KIONI: I have been sitting here thinking about that very thought.

This is an aggressive form of magic that was done to you, and that is being done. I am getting ahead onto forms of magic: hoodoo and voodoo.

A black bird, possibly a crow, if not a buzzard or a rooster, was killed over you. And usually, in cases like this, it's usually a vulture that is killed, and then that vulture's feathers are burned and made into a type of sprinkle, and this stuff is blown onto your door or somehow delivered to you.

You have to fight fire with fire, here. One of the things that I would say that you need to do is to write down the names of your known enemies on a name paper in red ink, and then you want to X them out with a big black marker. X them out. You want to use a pinch of Spanish moss, goofer dust, Hot Foot powder, asa-tay-fit-a -- help me here, Cat --

MISS CAT: Asafetidy.

Dr. Kioni [laughing]: Say it again, one more time!

MISS CAT: Asafetida, but people call it "asafetty."

DR. KIONI: -- or Devil's Dung. Also, write their names all over an egg. You do curse the egg; curse them, curse them, curse them, as you place their names on that egg. And then you want to place that egg in a jar vinegar to allow it to soften, because we want to diminish their power; and vinegar will dissolve the shell of the egg, which represents their power and their ability to keep working on you. That egg represents possibilities, and the rebirth -- and the rebirth -- and the rebirth of their efforts against you, you see.

Now, where I was going with the name paper and those powders that I told you about (Cat may want to add one more here): what you want to do is get some snakeskin. And you want to burn some of that snakeskin and powder it, and sprinkle it also across the name, along with the other things I just told you about, and then leave a portion of snakeskin, in which -- you are going to fold that name paper away from you, and then wrap it in that snakeskin. Then secure the snakeskin with black thread or black yarn. Once you have done that, of course, you're going to, again, speak your petition for them to be removed for your life; for the work that they have done against you to be totally stopped and and annihilated.

Do a red-and-black reversing candle on this, that you can get from Lucky Mojo. I would suggest Vandal Root to be used with this as well, along with Uncrossing Incense. Burn the candle on top of this pack [the name paper wrapped in snakeskin]. Make sure you carve their names on to the candle as much in a scattered pattern as you can, so that it resembles an alphabet soup -- you follow me?

GOLDIE: Yes.

DR. KIONI: Yes. Okay. This is to indicate, again, that you are scattering their forces, as you uncross or reverse what they are doing here to you.

Finally, once you have done all that and you have done the candle burning -- I would suggest doing this for nine days. I would suggest doing this [in nine-day series] for the next three months during the waning moon of nine days, when you are also taking the series of baths that Cat was telling you about.

Once you have finished doing this, take all of this mess, go to the graveyard, and find an ancestor, if you have one there with whom you were familiar and on good terms; and ask them to take this package, to take all of this mess and dispense with it. That is how I would work to kill this magic and put an end to it.

There are some other things that we can do that are a little bit more aggressive, that would require blood-letting. I would suggest that we cross that bridge only if we have to. I would suggest first doing it this way to see what happens for you.

MISS CAT: I'm going to add one other thing.

Because this woman is a practitioner herself, but she also visits others to help her, I would try to separate and break her apart from those that she has hired, either by causing Inflammatory Confusion between them and her, or causing them to fall out with one another.

DR. KIONI: Real good save on that one!

MISS CAT: So if you have, as Dr. Kioni believes -- I sensed more than one; he said three, and I was sensing more than one Rootworker that she has consulted -- I would make up some small packets for each one of those rootworkers. And when he [Dr. Kioni] described that candle, I would make up just small packets, and label them -- because you have no name, [so] you just say -- because we have no names, but we do have the initial M. for one -- just write, "M" -- an "M" -- Rootworker in Lafayette, Louisiana." And put a pin through that paper, and another pin; you know, just pierce that paper with two pins. And as you do it, just speak and say, "Miss So-and-so, if you help So-and-so again, it will be more pain to you, and you're going to get in trouble."

Make whatever threat you think they will heed. Rootworkers -- they are tough folks, and they do tough, hard, dirty work -- for hire, in this case. So what's going to hurt them is more likely physical pains to themselves, rather than a spiritual or mental attack, because they've made themselves strong against that.

But you just sit there and think: "Oh, Miss So-and-so, that's where you fall down and break your ankle! You continue working for my mother-in-law, and the cops will catch you speeding, and they'll find all those tickets. You continue to work for my mother-in-law, and the IRS is going to audit you." You see? So, you just try to put a little whammy on each of them, to make it less attractive for them.

But you can also sprinkle their papers with Inflammatory Confusion powder. We do make it and sell it -- but if you don't have that, just get poppy seeds from the grocery store; that's a good down-home version. Poppy seeds, and red pepper, and maybe a few other things that you could put together. But make an Inflammatory Confusion powder; when we make it, it has all those things, plus more.

Put that on their name papers, so they get burned up too. In other words, they go with her. You can also, when taking the mess that Dr. Kioni described to the grave -- the little packets, the ones for each of the Rootworkers -- I want you to take those to a crossroads, preferably a really busy intersection, where lots of cars drive, and throw the things right in [to the middle of the intersection], and let cars drive over them. And say, you know, "Your energies are scattered!" And, like when [Dr. Kioni] said to write their names all scattery, that's the kind of thing that we're talking about here: to scatter their energies so they cannot focus on you. We need to make it less attractive for them to help her.

DR. KIONI: Right. I think that you want to consider getting a feather of the vulture. A large black feather of a rooster would be okay and doable, but I'd rather use a feather from a vulture.

MISS CAT: Or a buzzard.

DR. KIONI: Or a buzzard, yes. A carnivore [bird].

MISS CAT: One of the easiest ways to find buzzard feathers that I know of is to drive around -- they get hit by cars; I'm not kidding, because I have a lot of buzzard feathers that I've collected over the years. They get hit by cars when they're eating dead animals by the side of the road in the early morning. You can sometimes find dead buzzards by the side of the road -- a very valuable thing to find.

DR. KIONI: I have found those before -- yes, I have.

If you can get more than one feather, good -- but at least one, and with that feather -- you are going to pass it over your body. Do it from head to toe, and as you do it, you ask that this creature will take the pains, take the unnatural sickness, take the energy of Hell back to those who have sent it to you!

Then when you want to do is to pulverize that feather. Pulverize it into powder. Pulverize it into powder. Add to it Goofer Dust and Hot Foot powder. Then, on a name paper with your antagonists' names -- your enemies' names -- with their addresses -- you are going to sprinkle a bit of that across [paper]. This is an alternative method to the delivery of the power personally by blowing it on the person's door, or sprinkling it in their path. Now, if you can do that [deliver it personally] in a clandestine manner, without jeopardizing your safety and getting caught, then by all means do that. But using name paper with as much personal information (birthdates, addresses [etc., as you can get]), and sprinkle some of that powder that you made on there. And as you do, you call their names into it. I like to stir with my left hand, with my forefinger, as I circle around it in a counterclockwise motion, as I speak to them that, "I'm sending this back to you. That which you did to me, may it be done unto you. The sickness that you sent to me, I send it back to you!" Et cetera.

Okay? That is another means of pushing it back onto them, and at the same time, giving it some swift delivery using a vulture. You can add a little bit of gunpowder to give it a really quick, quick, quick start, which I think you need. Cat?

MISS CAT: I'll tell you an alternative that's not quite as strong, because the vulture or buzzard feather is very strong. But if you can't get one, don't give up and not do the trick.

I've seen the same sort of trick done where you take the things and you powder up everything and -- let's say you had something of them; for example, you might have had their hair. You can't powder hair, but you can burn it to a powder, or you can burn their name to powder. But you want to make a powder of all this stuff. And if you don't have any other ways of conveying it, you go to a crossroads. And you stand there and you put it in the palm of your hand. And you blow it -- whoosh! -- just sort of blow it in the direction of their house. And you say, "All who drive through here, and who are driving in that direction, convey it," so it's almost like hitchhiking with whatever cars go that way. I've seen that done.

Also, I've seen the dust or [graveyard] dirt of a dead person added to such a powder, and [heard it] said, "Let the spirit carry it to their house."

DR. KIONI: We do that in Palo, and in hoodoo.

MISS CAT: So those are different alternatives. So when people say, "Well, I don't have all those ingredients!" Don't think that you can't do the spell! Sometimes we do mention things that are a little esoteric to find, like a buzzard feather is difficult to find. But there are ways that these things can be done, just the same.

I would also say that this is not going to be a short-term situation.

This is been going on for a long time. And I know you have sought help in many places. But you've now looked up with some people who really have your best interests at heart here. And don't go to too many readers; don't let people run you from reader to reader and get you frightened. When I hear the catalog of events that has happened to you, I can tell that this is for real; this has really happened, and this is a serious situation.

I would add one more prayer, and I say this cautiously, because everyone prays differently. But I was told that it's all right to ask God, "How long must this endure? Please, Lord, hear my plea. I need freedom from this woman -- even unto death." And so [in answer to this prayer], that she might die.

GOLDIE: I've been praying for that.

MISS CAT: All right. I mention it because not everyone will do that.

GOLDIE: I've been praying for that one.

MISS CAT: Well, many of us have had situations in our lives where that is our best and truest prayer. "Remove her from hurting me, and if she won't stop, God, just remove her -- take her away." And God will listen to a sincere prayer. And the help may come sooner than you thought in that regard. I would say that this woman may have stepped over the line one time too many.

DR. KIONI: I would get a cluster of Devil's Shoestrings and place their name papers that have been dressed with the appropriate oils: Black Arts oil, Hot Foot oil, Commanding oil, if you please; Cat may think of some other things here -- and powders. And twist the papers up, because that's what you want to do [to them] -- twist them up. Instead of folding, twist it: just twist it, twist it, twist it, twist it. There should through with pins and needles, and then secure the papers within the root structure of the Devil's Shoestrings and I think Cat sells them [in root clusters] like that. Then take that in also bury it in the graveyard as well. You ask the spirits to take them away, and may their lives continue to be twisted and entwined in such a way that they are unable to escape the traps that they set for you. They get caught in their own traps.

MISS CAT: That's why they call it Devil's Shoestrings, because it will bind up the Devil; it ties up the Devil. It's like tying a person's two shoes together; then they stumble and fall, they can't walk. It's a root, but it kind of looks like sticks. And you can get straight pieces of it, and you can get kind of curly pieces. And what he's saying is that when you twist these pieces of paper up, you're going to take these pieces of Devil's Shoestrings around outside of the paper, and you're just going to wrap around it. [In other words, the name papers are wrapped and twisted around the pieces of Devil's Shoestrings. -- MCM] and tie it all together. That's a way to bind them up.

You can also, instead of string, use something else; you can use witch grass, sometimes known as running grass. And it's a grass that has long runners on it, that just run from root to root to root. You can take and bind things up with that, and that's to keep [your enemies] bound and tied. It's better than string, if you can get it.

Well, I think we've given you a lot of ideas, and I know it's a lot of effort for you to take notes. But this will be available for you to listen to as a download, and soon we will have transcriptions available for those who want to read them. So you'll be able to play it back and hear what we had to say.

GOLDIE: Okay.

DR. KIONI: Goldie, would you have any last questions for us? We're just a little bit over our sixty minutes. But -- anyone -- any last questions or comments?

GOLDIE: I would really like a chance to talk to you off the air.

DR. KIONI: Okay. Won't be able to do that this evening, but please send an e-mail to me. You know how to contact me, and we can make that arrangement. Okay?

GOLDIE: Okay. It was really nice talking to you, Miss Cat.

MISS CAT: It was nice talking to you, and I hope we were able to help.

I really hope that good things come out of this, because you deserve to catch a break after all of this.

DR. KIONI: Goldie, thank you so very much for your courage tonight. You are a single mother of five children and my hat is off to you for your courage and for your your faith. Your faith will be rewarded. We can't say, in our platitudes, "Just hold on and trust the Lord," -- we can say all those things, but they seem to be not sufficient in the face of all that you have been through. But I know -- I do know -- I DO KNOW -- that prayer changes things.

GOLDIE: Yes, it does.

DR. KIONI: And I know that prayer changes people. And as someone said, "I know that God is still on the throne." And with a little juju, we'll get the job done!

GOLDIE: Okay!

DR. KIONI: And thank you so much for being here tonight.

Cat? You have any thoughts to wrap up tonight's show?

MISS CAT: No, I'm very happy with the way this went. I think that between the two of us, we came up with some really good ideas for her.

I hope you will provide her with personal guidance, because we came up with a lot of complicated stuff, there. I hope you will continue to give her personal guidance, and that she will continue to keep on consulting with her doctors -- that's just my little thing. So that's all I have to say. We get these calls, and some of them seem light, and some of them seem dark. This one seemed to me like there was a lot of darkness around her. And I really hope that she will be following through on these things, and getting the help that she needs.

DR. KIONI: I do agree. Amen!

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[melonymalsom]

Cat,

For some odd reason I cannot find the info I need on this radio show. What time and station is it on?

Thanks for your time!

Melony Malsom-#1348

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[CKioni]

Hi Happy Hoodooers!

Not all of the shows from earlier years are available. We have transcripts from some by Miss Michaele.

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I can't wait to listen to whatever you do have available that I missed.

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