CHAT LOG:
3-Apr-2023 18:43 rev_art Getting ready for another great show!
3-Apr-2023 18:43 lmcradionetwork Hello and welcome!
3-Apr-2023 19:00 rev_art Mystical music!
3-Apr-2023 19:05 reverendjames Papa Gee has been busy too!
3-Apr-2023 19:08 reverendjames Art is very helpful and important to Papa Gee's work - studying 4 years in high school.
3-Apr-2023 19:08 reverendjames Uh oh, He failed Algebra Twice! Everyone rush to the store when he’s the cashier!
3-Apr-2023 19:10 reverendjames Mentions an old store in his area named "Magical Journey" which he took inspiration from for his store.
3-Apr-2023 19:11 reverendjames Brings back many things from various places they visit, both spiritual and mundane, somewhat as "seeds" and are "planted" around the store.
3-Apr-2023 19:12 reverendjames Papa Gee says - "[this is a place] where the public comes in to escape their problems."
3-Apr-2023 19:13 reverendjames He encourages employees to - Never be afraid to say, "I don't know."
3-Apr-2023 19:13 reverendjames "But we can find out!"
3-Apr-2023 19:15 reverendjames Grew up Baptist, grandfather would give him pyrite to carry to bring money - but did not consider this magic. Another relative always kept blue bottles in her window.
3-Apr-2023 19:16 reverendjames Papa Gee gets his "potion-making" aptitude from his grandfather who was a crafter and winemaker.
3-Apr-2023 19:16 reverendjames He started learning divination methods, Tarot and Ouija, in his early teens.
3-Apr-2023 19:17 reverendjames He also studied Wicca in his mid-20's. In his late 40's he discovered Hoodoo.
3-Apr-2023 19:18 reverendjames Papa Gee says Hoodoo is - "down home spell casting without a lot of ritual."
3-Apr-2023 19:19 reverendjames Garden's Botanica(?)
3-Apr-2023 19:20 reverendjames Mind and Body, Bath and (?)
3-Apr-2023 19:21 reverendjames Began with making soap - then moved into candle making.
3-Apr-2023 19:23 reverendjames magical supplies came in when they transformed "Aroma Gregory's" into "Aroma G's [Botanica]"
3-Apr-2023 19:24 reverendjames used to own "soap by the loaf" soapbytheloaf.com
3-Apr-2023 19:24 reverendjames for people to buy, cut, package, and resell, or to big companies like spas.
3-Apr-2023 19:25 reverendjames Covid doubled their materials cost and caused them to shift focus.
3-Apr-2023 19:26 reverendjames 6 Classes, Food, ALL Free!
3-Apr-2023 19:26 reverendjames Tennessee Folk Magic Festival
3-Apr-2023 19:27 reverendjames Mini-Classes!
3-Apr-2023 19:27 reverendjames FB and YT Live Sales!
3-Apr-2023 19:27 reverendjames Book Publishing! - 11 Books and one on the way!
3-Apr-2023 19:28 reverendjames Going into a publishing "booklets" 30-40 page deals specific to one topic. The next book is Papa G's Little Book of Candle Magic
3-Apr-2023 19:29 reverendjames ^ 80-85 Page Book - Currently added a section on different specific spells
3-Apr-2023 19:30 rev_art Hi Miss Cat!
3-Apr-2023 19:30 catherine-yronwode Hi, Good to be here!
3-Apr-2023 19:31 papagee hiya, Cat
3-Apr-2023 19:31 rev_art Always a pleasure to see you
3-Apr-2023 19:31 catherine-yronwode Hey, all!
3-Apr-2023 19:32 reverendjames Hello @catherine-yronwode!
3-Apr-2023 19:33 reverendjames Papa G had his Instagram copied and username slightly altered 6 times by scammers lately!
3-Apr-2023 19:34 trollt Sorry, late arriving, listening during this segment.
3-Apr-2023 19:34 reverendjames Be weary and check your links when you get messages out of nowhere.
3-Apr-2023 19:34 reverendjames Welcome @trollt were glad to have you with us!
3-Apr-2023 19:35 theredqueen9111 Sorry I'm late I'll be in and out.
3-Apr-2023 19:35 reverendjames Welcome @theredqueen9111!
3-Apr-2023 19:35 theredqueen9111 Thanks
3-Apr-2023 19:35 papagee hi redqueen
3-Apr-2023 19:35 reverendjames Ethics link at AIRR -
https://www.readersandrootworkers.org/w ... _of_Ethics
3-Apr-2023 19:36 theredqueen9111 @papagee @reverendjames thanks hello
3-Apr-2023 19:37 jaydeehoodoo Hello everyone
3-Apr-2023 19:37 theredqueen9111 I had an ex-teacher ask for my bank routing number... never gave it to him lol and got outta it fast
3-Apr-2023 19:37 reverendjames Things to ask: Do your workers have a "Code of Ethics"? Do your workers have a Photo of themselves? - Papa G believes it should be your face in some form or fashion. Do you have recourse if you have a negative experience? Do they have a website?
3-Apr-2023 19:37 reverendjames Can you speak to them?
3-Apr-2023 19:38 reverendjames Hey @jaydeehoodoo!
3-Apr-2023 19:38 papagee hi Jaydee
3-Apr-2023 19:38 jaydeehoodoo hey Rev James
3-Apr-2023 19:38 reverendjames Rev. Art adds: Do they have reviews or testimonials?
3-Apr-2023 19:38 jaydeehoodoo Hi Papagee
3-Apr-2023 19:39 reverendjames Papa G says his readings should be called "Tough Love Tarot" - He speaks bluntly and doesn't beat around the bush. He also doesn't sugar coat his readings.
3-Apr-2023 19:40 catherine-yronwode Mr. Tough Love Tarot! Truth in advertising! But you are a sweet person when they get to know you, Papa Gee.
3-Apr-2023 19:40 reverendjames @catherine-yronwode absolutely, I agree!
3-Apr-2023 19:41 reverendjames Rev Art adds: Does this person have my best interest at heart (ex. do they lead me on and bait me for workings/readings?)
3-Apr-2023 19:42 catherine-yronwode One of the things i love about Hoodoo Psychics is that there is a brief attitudinal description of each reader -- words like blunt, compassionate, traditional, no-nonsense, wise, gentle, and so forth have meanings -- so pick your reader accordingly.
3-Apr-2023 19:44 jaydeehoodoo You are the author of your own shit should be a logo on a t-shirt!
3-Apr-2023 19:45 theredqueen9111 @jaydeehoodoo 100% agree.
3-Apr-2023 19:46 reverendjames Another thing I think you should check for is does the worker offer some type of "proof" that the work was done, do they send pictures with your photos in them, with a timestamp, or a sign with your name and the date of the work on it?
3-Apr-2023 19:47 catherine-yronwode There's a whole page at AIRR on fake psychics who have stolen the photos of AIRR rootworkers.
https://www.readersandrootworkers.org/w ... e_Psychics
3-Apr-2023 19:48 reverendjames Papa G adds: Can you find more than one instance of them online, either on websites or social media Art emphasizes social media and advises those checking to see when the profile, page, or site was created. Ensure your not communicating with a scammer clone.
3-Apr-2023 19:48 catherine-yronwode Some of them are ridiculous! And we OUT them, too! Names, dates, and locations!
3-Apr-2023 19:48 reverendjames HoodooLine - How to catch a spiritual scammer!
3-Apr-2023 19:50 reverendjames 40 minutes remain in the show.
3-Apr-2023 19:50 catherine-yronwode My favourites at the AIRR page are the "Phychic" [sic] reader!
3-Apr-2023 19:53 jaydeehoodoo @papagee personal development awesome!
3-Apr-2023 19:53 reverendjames Papa G says another thing to look for is: A worker that is willing to tell you "no" and also a worker that will first ask, or suggest if you can or are willing to do the necessary work yourself - saving them money. Is your worker willing to coach.
3-Apr-2023 19:53 catherine-yronwode I love teaching clients to become co-participants in their own magic.
3-Apr-2023 19:54 reverendjames @catherine-yronwode - and you save them even more by sending them to our great website Hoodoo Workshops at hoodooworkshops.com so they can learn at their own pace and not pay top dollar "on the line" as it were!
3-Apr-2023 19:55 trollt spell-casting clients!
3-Apr-2023 19:56 reverendjames Papa G says its necessary to do complimentary work, either spiritual or mundane to achieve spell success.
3-Apr-2023 19:56 trollt Multi-dimensional approach!
3-Apr-2023 19:56 catherine-yronwode Yes, that is true, Rev. James -- I want folk magic to remain a cultural treasure, not a cult of people throwing money at wizards. When the client bathes, cleans house, lights a candle, or prays, they are following through, with their own intentions and hopes, and that is very important.
3-Apr-2023 19:58 reverendjames Art asks: "What is more important: Knowledge or experience"? Papa G responds: "That is a good question, and he thinks it depends on where that knowledge or experience comes from" Ask them what books/articles/blogs they read, where they studied, who were their teachers.
3-Apr-2023 19:58 catherine-yronwode Hi, theredqueen9111 -- nice to see you here. I recognize your handle from the Forum.
3-Apr-2023 19:59 trollt Seems to proceed from the New Thought mentality about self-development and self-help.
3-Apr-2023 20:00 reverendjames Always expand and add to your "toolbox."
3-Apr-2023 20:00 trollt Where does the line really exist between ordinary endeavours and spiritual work? Does it help if your witch-for-hire is an expert in that which she is helping to bring into being?
3-Apr-2023 20:01 catherine-yronwode Learning is FUN!
3-Apr-2023 20:01 reverendjames @trollt - do you mean like - a spiritual worker who is also a banker or stockbroker and them being able to help with "money stay with me" workings or "wealthy way" respectively?
3-Apr-2023 20:02 trollt Yes.
3-Apr-2023 20:02 reverendjames @trollt interesting perspective!
3-Apr-2023 20:02 trollt How much of an expert in the world they are supporting need they be?
3-Apr-2023 20:03 catherine-yronwode Yes, that's a good point, troll! If you think your garden is cursed, find a rootworker who is also a gardener!
3-Apr-2023 20:03 trollt Are there areas which should NOT be dealt with by your spiritual worker?
3-Apr-2023 20:04 catherine-yronwode If you want a good marriage, seek a reader and conjure doctor who is happily married.
3-Apr-2023 20:04 trollt Are living spiritual workers better equipped to assist as compared to a dead one, contacted through spiritual means?
3-Apr-2023 20:05 reverendjames 25 minutes remain in the show
3-Apr-2023 20:05 catherine-yronwode I love Etsy -- lots of cool hand-made thingies, and many antiques as well! Not so good for pretend "candle-burnings witches," though - those FAKES!
3-Apr-2023 20:06 catherine-yronwode Troll -- i think the topic is finding an alive spiritual worker. Finding a dead one would be something that spiritualists do.
3-Apr-2023 20:07 trollt Does it matter what religion one's spiritual worker is? Do we have to watch out for those who are not really aligned with our own cosmological view? Should we be interviewing them or being sure that their background is complementary to ours, as a client?
3-Apr-2023 20:07 catherine-yronwode troll -- Good point about that -- if someone claims spiritual initiations you owe it to yourself to check on their credentials.
3-Apr-2023 20:08 reverendjames I do something similar, I ask clients to spit it at every crossroads between them and the courthouse and the courthouse parking lot entrance in hopes that the judge will drive through it
3-Apr-2023 20:09 reverendjames @catherine-yronwode and they should be able to share a lineage and should have someone you can contact regarding their initiation.
3-Apr-2023 20:09 catherine-yronwode As far as them aligning with the client's cosmological worldview, that is essential. If you are a VEGAN, don't hire a rootworker who performs ANIMAL SACRIFICE! (Duh.)
3-Apr-2023 20:09 jaydeehoodoo You can secretly spit it into a napkin then drop it on the floor to get in the courtroom. Adaptations of old practices to modern problems.
3-Apr-2023 20:09 trollt Not just a reader or conjure doctor, the PERSON WHO MARRIES YOU!
3-Apr-2023 20:09 catherine-yronwode Rev. James -- yes, exactly!
3-Apr-2023 20:10 catherine-yronwode troll-- Sure!
3-Apr-2023 20:10 reverendjames @jaydeehoodoo ooo! Nice!
3-Apr-2023 20:10 trollt I.e. it ought be wondered if celibate priests without families are actually good at marrying people.
3-Apr-2023 20:11 trollt Is it usually beneficial to do HANDS-ON work for clients, the spellwork at the location where it will be having an effect, and with the participation of the client? Or can it all be proxy with the client doing that work alone at home if that's where they need the help?
3-Apr-2023 20:12 trollt "three husbands who died mysteriously" - Sounds like a movie plot.
3-Apr-2023 20:12 reverendjames Right! Haha
3-Apr-2023 20:13 papagee trollt, Lifetime Television for Women and Gay Men
3-Apr-2023 20:13 trollt We've seen one or two of those!
3-Apr-2023 20:13 jaydeehoodoo Does one need to experience the situation to do the work, meaning must you been sick to do healing work, married to do love work?
3-Apr-2023 20:13 trollt LOL
3-Apr-2023 20:13 reverendjames sounds like a "Murder She Wrote" episode.
3-Apr-2023 20:13 jaydeehoodoo I love murder she wrote, she just passed rest her soul!
3-Apr-2023 20:14 trollt Like reading for yourself, is there a limitation on how close one should be to the work one is doing? If a friend asks for spiritual work is that more difficult to do it for them? Should one do work for one's spouse if one is involved in the situation? When are referrals to others important?
3-Apr-2023 20:15 trollt That's not just pressure, that's the stuff of scams and confidence games.
3-Apr-2023 20:17 catherine-yronwode Ah, the old "you have dark entity around you" -- right up there with "you have a hole in your aura."
3-Apr-2023 20:18 jaydeehoodoo I had a friend who was in Paris and told me a person told him this and they had to burn candles to remove the evil off them. It is a typical scam seen in many forms.
3-Apr-2023 20:19 trollt What are the moral imitations with doing work for children?
3-Apr-2023 20:19 trollt Do you need parental permission?
3-Apr-2023 20:20 reverendjames 10 minutes left in the show, ~ 8 min till end music.
3-Apr-2023 20:22 trollt So "Win the Lottery magic" for a child would need parental consent.
3-Apr-2023 20:24 trollt right! Readings and education.
3-Apr-2023 20:25 trollt Yes! Reflecting winning numbers!
3-Apr-2023 20:26 catherine-yronwode I give out winning lottery numbers all the time -- and i cannot do it for myself because I DON'T GAMBLE!
3-Apr-2023 20:26 reverendjames I think winning and lucky are different haha
3-Apr-2023 20:26 catherine-yronwode Call me, Papa Gee -- i will do a workout for you!
3-Apr-2023 20:26 reverendjames End music starts in ~1 minute.
3-Apr-2023 20:26 trollt LOL
3-Apr-2023 20:27 trollt BTW, if it starts late, that will simply end the show off-air if it goes overtime.
3-Apr-2023 20:27 catherine-yronwode I am not reading winning numbers randomly - i read them for folks who play regularly, for the best days and best lottery games for them -- it really is doable. No lie. But it is individual.
3-Apr-2023 20:28 jaydeehoodoo I work with a woman who works with lotto books and wins all the time. Not always a big win but she gets wins.
3-Apr-2023 20:29 jaydeehoodoo wonderful show great topic and discussion, I enjoyed listening to the discussion!
3-Apr-2023 20:30 trollt What fun.
3-Apr-2023 20:30 rev_art Thank you everyone! Have a fantastic week and we'll see you next time!
3-Apr-2023 20:30 trollt Sorry we arrived late; i was dealing with setting up a new phone system!
3-Apr-2023 20:30 trollt Yay! Trying to export the transcript, we'll see if it works!
3-Apr-2023 20:31 reverendjames No worries, we’re happy to have you whenever you arrive!
3-Apr-2023 20:31 papagee fun show!
3-Apr-2023 20:31 reverendjames Glad you enjoyed your time with us @papagee! Come back soon!
3-Apr-2023 20:31 lmcradionetwork Thank you @papagee for joining us! Come back and see us again soon, ok?
3-Apr-2023 20:31 reverendjames @jaydeehoodoo glad you enjoyed the show~
3-Apr-2023 20:31 papagee thanks for having me.
3-Apr-2023 20:34 trollt Got it!
3-Apr-2023 20:34 trollt Wonderful show.
3-Apr-2023 20:34 lmcradionetwork Grabbing chat log now.
