Spells of Justified Revenge and Reversing for Wrong-Doing

Scolarion · Unread post by **Scolarion** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:48 am

I'm pretty new to all of this. But I did quite some research in a short period of time.
Now I found this spell which I am very curious about. Since I'm just a rookie I already figured out it wouldn't be smart to start with this Black Magic spell so soon already.
My question: Anyone who has experience with this spell and if so, did it work for you?
And also I'd like to know what your opinion is on how much experience you must have before trying this spell?

Thanks in advance!

The spell is here, in the Lucky Mojo Free Spells Archive:

http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/black/h ... pells.html

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:18 am

Well, it seems interesting but not very inline with hoodoo. Their is no mention of anointing the candle or using herbal,animal or mineral curios. The rhyming curse marks this as coming from a European tradition, the closest thing hoodoo has to incantations are usually psalms, prayers and petitions, though some people like to use the more formulaic spells from books like the Key of Solomon or the books of Moses when using the talismans and sigls in within them. I do like the rhyme , definitely gets the message across

. I have to wounder why you would try and make someone so thoroughly miserable for three days and then take off the curse? I can only speak for my self but if someone got me angry enough to try and inflict the kind of suffering talked of in this spell i would probably Hot Foot them away or let them suffer for a good long time.

So, yeah sorry about the rambling post but this is a forum for rootwork and while the spell you posted is certainly interesting in my opinion it doesn't sound like hoodoo.

Also I like how it try's for old English then mentions a photo, I think its part of its charm if you'll pardon the pun lol.

Scolarion · Unread post by **Scolarion** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:12 pm

Well the reason I picked this spell is because if it only lasts 3 days I can see clearly if the persons behaviour would change in his normal life during daytime, and it wouldn't be a long suffering so it'll be a complete hell for him

.
(The spell was found under black magic on the website that the main topic on this forum part links to btw so I thought it'd have something to do with hoodoo

)

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:16 pm

Scolarion

Ah, I see.

Reynolds · Unread post by **Reynolds** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:34 pm

Hi everyone,
I finally got around last night to begining a Justice/Revenge spell on a person who has up until now been able to rip people off, lie to them, slander them, and take advantage for far too long.

I ended up doing the Black Candle revenge spell (though I substituted a Black Devil candle thanks to Miss Cat pointing out to me in a reading that the guy really is a Devil! The devil card came up 2 or 3 times for this chap!).

I think the standard ingrediants are Black Berry leaves, Sulphur, Red pepper,
And I ended up using Sulphur, Poopy seeds, Black berry leaves, barberry, confusion oil, and inflammatory confusion oil and inflammatory confusion powder, Dark Arts oil, and also some Graveyard dirt from a Soldier. And I also stabbed the candle with pieces from two buiildings associated with the guy, and which are 2 of his base camps for his dastardly deeds ( so that they would play a part in his undoing).

However, after I began hitting the candle wrapped in black cloth tied with black string, I realized I had forgotten to add the Red Pepper.

So I wonder what yu guys think might be a good idea:

should I open the wrapped up cloth and throw some red pepper in there ( and in the process probably spill some of the mess inside on me )
or should I just leave it be? Would opening the wrapped up cloth in some way undo the spell?

There is already a good deal of curio action going on in the packet, but stilll.....

Also, When I was screaming at him via the devil candle , telling him about all the horrible things he had done and how he will pay for his misdeeds etc... I ended up accidentally spitting a bit on the cloth ( I was screaming like a maniac, and I think my upstairs neighbor heard me, as when I saw him in the lobby of my building earlier, he looked at me in a fearful way lol).
I did my best to clean the area off with florida water. Any thoughts on this?

I get confused when it comes to things like this. While the spell is obviously not directed at me, might getting a bit of my personal concerns in the mix effect me?

Any thoughts and advice would be appreciated, and I look very much forward to when I can add to the comment page after hearing of this fool being undone by his own evil.

Thanks,

- Reynolds
Thanks Guys!

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:45 pm

It sounds good to me, don't worry about the red pepper, their are things in that packet that will work along the same lines. And don't worry about the bit of spit, if you yell and scream and curse your going to get a little spit flying lol, it shouldn't be a problem.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:47 pm

LoL I think u are fine without the red pepper. Sounds like yopu had a great time whacking the hell out of this packet, but as long as u cleaned the area with florida water you are fine. I think your intentions and your pure hatred for this person really will help you, and I am sure this person is getting what they deserve.

Reynolds · Unread post by **Reynolds** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:03 pm

Thanks guys,
and in term sof him getting what he deserves? You have no idea... the sorts of things he does, while he hasn't killed anyone ( to my knowledge) him dying would NOT be a bad thing...

He's basically either a narcisist or socio[path. Very charming and glib in order to get people to trust him and get what he wants, and when he DOESNT get hwat he wants, his true self comes out, he screams, he threatens.... he is seriously unbalanced and wicked!

HE rips people off, tried to rip me of for $1000, and I know of 2 other people he screwed over big time, and I'm certain he does it whenever he can.

One thing I asked for was for his true self t come out so people wont deal with him and so he falls from his high station ( hes a big shot at his company) and also so that he becomes s oarrogant he causes his own downfall through being sloppy in his lies and deceitful actions, and this shouldn't be to hard to make happen, as he is already sloppy.

HE's like the guy who is sooo used to getting his way and proffiting through trickery that he just takes his victories for granted and isn't meticulous anymore....

Ok, end rant! I'm off to whallop that Devil

Thanks again guys

Edit:
just did it, but instead of 3 times I hit it nine. MAn was I angry, I felt like I was about to fight someone, lol.
One interesting thing:
I have a candle lit on an alter for great Saint Expedite, and before I hammered the devil, the flame was ok, and when I came out right after, satill fuming, the flame was jumping all over.
Now, that;s either air soing it ( but the place has no draft) or it's him saying hello, or, possibly, it's some sort of magical current in the air, because I'm giving off black fumes of righteous hate lol.

Unread post by **Literarylioness** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:58 pm

[quote="Reynolds"]Thanks guys,
and in term sof him getting what he deserves? You have no idea... the sorts of things he does, while he hasn't killed anyone ( to my knowledge) him dying would NOT be a bad thing...

He's basically either a narcisist or socio[path. Very charming and glib in order to get people to trust him and get what he wants, and when he DOESNT get hwat he wants, his true self comes out, he screams, he threatens.... he is seriously unbalanced and wicked!
/quote]

He sounds like a candidate for a mirror box coffin in the graveyard!

I would work him into a mirror box coffin and bury him a nice dark part of the graveyard. I would ask a a helpful spirit to keep him there. A lot of spirits like to help with people like this.

He won't be bothering anyone again once you do that.

Mary

Reynolds · Unread post by **Reynolds** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:34 am

Hi MAry,
thanks for the info and reply.

I was actually thinking of putting thwe l;eft overs from this one in a graveyard, but I live in the city and don't drive. I might be able to enlist a n understanding and open minded friend to give me a ride, but I'll have to find a graveyard that isn't patrolled by security types.

I'm going to do a bottle spell on him as well and bury it near where he walks ( once again, I find it a little challenging to adapt a rural folk magic to city environs), but in the future perhpas I'll try the mirro one on him, provided I find said graveryard.

At smoe point in the future I'm going to evoke a Spirit from the LEsser Key to either punish him (again lol) or remove his dignities and honers, by which I mean topple hm from his place of power that allows him to rip off people.

Thanks again guys.

I may have already written this, but the emotion I feel when doing this far exceeds that of any work I've ever done, as I'm very much into justice: I see too many people abuse and manipulate others without suffering any repercusions, and this fires me up.
Perhaps If I ever do work part time for others, if I have a talent for it ( which remains to be seen) I'll do retributive justice work.

Unread post by **Literarylioness** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:32 am

Reynolds

Well, if you want to make his life repugnant at work, you can bury a bottle filled with vinegar, his personal concerns, picture, and signature with the company's name over him at the entrance to the job. He will become a pariah to everyone there, especially the higher ups.

I have a gift for justice work myself and it is a specialty.

Mary

Reynolds · Unread post by **Reynolds** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:13 pm

Thanks for the spell info,
alas, I only have his signature. Sea4rched online for a photo but have been unable to find it, and I definitly don't have any hair.
If you think it might work, I'll try it anyways.

Other than that, I'm learning the evocatiuons of the Lesser Key of Solomon, and at some point in the future I'm going to ask a Spirit to remove his 'dignities and honors', so it'll accomplish pretty much the same thing, though I'd prefer to do the bottle.

victorguillen · Unread post by **victorguillen** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:01 am

I have performed this Spell and as HailDiscordia said, it does not talk about any other step, like anointing candles or something else, but as practicioners, we know that in candle working, is a must.

I performed over an enemy who caused me sorrow, pain and damage to my life, I didn't hesitate in performing Black Magick, so I did it.

From someone else's mouth, I hear that this guy was passing through very hard days... he only showed himself sick and soared, so... from my experience, I say that this spell does work.

Of course, make sure you focus your energy very well in a very elaborate rage. I use to listen some specific songs when I want to induce myself into this.

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:08 pm

Hello all:

I'm a member of a group going through some turmoil. Since I'm new to the area, I'm still getting to know everyone in this group (it's a social/spiritual group) and I know I have to take everything everyone says with a grain of salt. Magicians do need to use their brains and common sense, and I try to remind myself of that several times a day

However, there are several people (nearly 10) who are in the process of making formal complaints against the group's president. The primary complaint is financial mismanagement: one member claiming that they made a donation for a specific purpose, and the president did not use the money for that purpose, and in fact lied about where the money actually went. There are claims that there are two sets of financial records. There's a lot of bad blood and bad vibes, so much so that I've barely met anyone in the group because they're all staying away from this president; according to my one friend in the group, he has a history of reporting people to higher-ups who "defy" him.

Now, before I even got involved with this group I threw the tarot on it, and it said that there was a reversed King of Pentacles situation going on (immature men, mismanagement of finances) so it's possible that this could be referring to that situation. But I'm technically not supposed to *know* about any of this since "I'm new here". And I'm staying out of it as much as possible. But I can see where he's manipulating people. My further card readings on the situation seem to confirm that the financial stuff is correct and there is bad and controlling behavior going on all over the place.

Last week, I was attacked in my dreams psychically. The attacker...well, some of you may know the term "incubus". It's a spirit that attacks women sexually. I could feel this thing's tongue *inside my mouth* right before I woke up. Blech. And strangely, the spirit in my dream kinda resembled the president of the group in a physical way. I did a house blessing and cleansing, I did a cleansing and blessing on myself and so far have had no other trouble.

The people who are trying to get this resolved and get the president removed from power are going through the legitimate channels but my friend is afraid that he's so well "connected" that he'll get off scot-free. In fact, the person coming to investigate him later this month is staying *in* his house!

Last night, I was at a party where the president was also attending and I managed to get a hold of a plastic Coke bottle that he'd drunk out of, so I guess that counts as a personal concern. I haven't done anything with it yet. I don't want to hurt him, I just think from my own personal readings on him that he's not very spiritually evolved, that he cares more about money than about people, and if he's done anything criminal it needs to come to light. I'd like to get any and all of his evil deeds to "stick" to him and then be brought to light.

So my question is (and thanks for reading along):
1. The bottle is currently wrapped in a paper bag and living behind my toilet. The energy even feels kind of ..heavy. I don't know, maybe I'm reading something into it. It's still about 1/2 full of Coke and I was planning on leaving it that way to leave any saliva in it. Is that a good idea?
2. I was thinking of gluing/taping the bottle in a shoebox and gluing mirrors and battery lights on all 4 sides of the box. That way, the mirrors send any of his bad energy back to him and the lights "shed light" on any crimes he's committed.
3. I was going to maybe wrap the bottle with tape, sticky side out, so all his sins stick to him? And maybe each day for a certain number of days sprinkle some herbs for controlling or whatever to the tape and say "Every day more and more your evil deeds stick to you, you can't hide".

Any thoughts? Or should I say "screw it" and just stay out of this whole thing?

Thanks,
waterborn

Unread post by **Turnsteel** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:49 pm

I would get out of this group and cut all ties. If you are going to cross that man I would try and get a better concern then the bottle. Take a look at Crossing,D.U.M.E, Devil's oil, Dark arts, that kind of thing,Goofer dust to. And just blessing yourself is not enough, do protection work.

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:48 am

Hi HailDiscordia:

I do regular protection work and wear a mojo bag to that purpose, which I feed regularly. I also wash my house with Chinese wash and I laid down pinches of salt in each corner of the house to protect against further astral attack.

The group itself is good; it's just I'm feeling a lot of confusion about what the right thing might be to do to regarding its' president. Which may mean to do nothing at all

I don't want to cross this man, necessarily. I want him and his wrongdoings to be brought to light and for him to be punished for them. Would a "court case" focus be more appropriate?

waterborn

Athanati · Unread post by **Athanati** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:33 pm

Is there anything in particular that one could use to give back everything they've received from another? The pain and misery, the pure hell they've forced another to endure? Something that would make them feel everything they've inflicted upon you?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:36 pm

Reversal candle....or a mirror box. It has been talked about on the forum numerous times. You can utilize the search function and do a search on mirror box, and reverse, reversing, or reversal candles.

Athanati · Unread post by **Athanati** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:49 pm

Thank you!

faith2008 · Unread post by **faith2008** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:08 pm

When I first came to this site I was looking for help b/c I believed my husband was bipolar (which he may very well be) but that does not excuse infidelity in my book. Especially when he puts that little tramp before our kids! To say that I'm pissed is putting it lightly. Right now I want him to suffer the same pain he has put me through time and time again. I want his world to come crashing down around him. I want to bring down the wrath of God on him. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated. My six year old cries almost everyday b/c of what this selfish SOB has done. He misses his dad so much and I just want him to feel the pain. I want him to suffer like he has never suffered before. I know I probably shouldn't feel this way but if you only knew half of what I've been through, you would understand.

Thanks in advance.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:12 pm

Well, I would personally not do any crossing work on someone who is very mentally ill. That could end VERY badly. While a mentally ill person's actions can be extremely painful to those around them, when they are ill they do not have the capacity to understand this, so to punish them for being ill is simply not justified in my opinion. That doesn't mean that just because they are ill you have to sit around and take it. If they won't take responsibility for their health, then there's nothing you can do but move on, really. This, in and of itself, is quite a punishment for them to lose their family over their actions. Sometimes, once they come out of a bad slump, this kind of consequence will be what makes them realize they need help. But I would not try and make things harder for someone who is already so ill.

You could try doing a binding to help keep him from hurting you and the family, and then do some Healing and Clarity work on him to try and get him to see clearly what his actions are doing. You may also want to do some Fiery Wall of Protection work and Healing/Tranquility work for you child so that they won't be as effected by the negativity that is going around the situation.

If you want to get out of the relationship, then you should start considering legal options on that end. You certainly don't have to stay in a marriage where there is so much pain. You can do some Seperation work to help things end smoothly, and then Cut and Clear your feelings for him. That should help you make a clean get away and get a new start.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:13 pm

Reversing work may be good in this situation. It will put him through what you have gone through. Do a reading to find out the best course of action

You can get a black penis candle and work havoc on his sex and manhood. Anoint it with Black Arts oil and Crossing oil, then toss in some goofer dust, Asafoetida, Red peppers, Black Peppers, and stick it fill with needles and pins while cursing him with a vengeful heart. Burn that thing on his picture, or a personal concern of his.

Make sure you take a moment to take stock and find out if this is what you really want. Get a reading.

It may be best to get him back into his son's life at the least..

faith2008 · Unread post by **faith2008** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:27 pm

Thanks for the replies CM and Devi. I know I probably shouldn't feel this way but if you only knew what me and the kids have been through. It's like he has no heart. He doesn't even call and talk to the kids. I do have a reading scheduled with Dr. Kioni Wednesday but I wanted to go ahead and place an order with LM tomorrow so that I can have what I need just in case.

I already found your hammer reversal spell you posted before CM but I likes this one too. Can I do them both if my reading goes in that direction?

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:43 pm

You certainly can. I'm sure Dr. Kioni will also give you some conjure to work at home.

Brida · Unread post by **Brida** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:37 pm

Dear Faith,

My heart goes out to you. I don't have children, but I do work with them. I have been in the field of education and behavior consulting for over 15 years. I know it hurts the most when you see your children hurting so much. Mind you, this man will reap what he sows. That is how the universe works.

I was in a marriage in that infidelity played a HUGE part. We did not have children thanks to my caution in making sure that this is who I want to father my children. He obviously was not the kind of man I would want my future children to call Dad. Divorce was not an option according to our families, and culture. Though according to our religion, it was not forbidden. I remember the universe revealing all of his cheating to me with out me even having to look for them. The universe knew he was no good, and wanted to make sure I knew it, too. So, I listened, and now divorced, moved to a new state, and a new fresh start on life. That was my gift for cutting loose from such a horrible person.

Being bipolar is not an excuse to pull your pants down for someone. I suggest he get a full psychological assessment done, before you start any type of work on him. If the man is nuts, you don't want to make him even more nuts...it might back fire causing more pain for you and your children. I know your heart is full of vengence, but patience is key in attaining the best. Get a legal seperation, and cut him out of your and your children's life for a while. Tell him there is no room for negotiations, until he presents you with a psychological report of his condition. Then, proceed with legal action. This report could do two things for you in court. It can prove he is mentally ill, and you should have FULL custody of the kids. OR It can prove that he is of sound mind, and jerk. So, he is not fit as a husband and father; but because of his neglectful attitude towards the children, you should get FULL custody of the kids, or he can only have chaperoned visits. Don't let anger drive your motions. Be smart about what you do, and things will be become clear.

Children are children. It is sad that they have to see and go through these things, but it is life. They will learn to adapt, and this is a situation in which you can use as a learning opportunity for your kids when they are older. You can show them that you love them so much; you were not going to stand by and have their father disrespect the family unit like that. Better to be with out a father, than to be with one who is a bad example.

Everything is going to be okay. It may have to get worse before it gets better, but everything will balance out. Work on healing and protecting yourself and kids. After things have settled, and you know exactly what you are dealing with, then you can take the appropriate measures in conjure to give him a taste of his own medicine. Though, I promise you, the universe does have it's way of making him take that pill whether he wants to or not.

I will keep you and your children in my prayers. Take care of you and the kids. He is not worthy of your energy right now.

with hugs,
Brida

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:34 am

I like what Brida said.Ive been there my friend was bipolar AND schizophrenic. I was pissed as hell at the things he said about me and my father, however, he wasnt in the right frame of mind. If you are concerned get a 5150 called on him if he posses a risk to you...even an emotional risk. I just would not want to curse someone that is mentally ill. What is that going to solve? NOTHING. And if you are that upset then cut him off, and move. Do whatever you need to do to protect yourself and your child. But seriously (and Im not trying to be a jerk) do not curse him, or make him suffer unless you want to plan for a funeral. You cursing him might very well make things worse, and YOU or your CHILD might be the one hurt.

And I dont know Dr. K and have never gotten a reading from him, but from my personal friends, I know he is probably not going to condone this if he is suffering from mental illness. I understand you are mad, and I love to get revenge, but this is not a smart idea at all (if he is mentally ill)

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:11 am

Manic depression doesn't excuse a person of personal responsibility. Plus, she didn't indicate that he was mentally ill, just that she *believes* he's bipolar. Remember, the courts wouldn't excuse a bipolar man of murder

. We should only make excuses when a person's judgment of what is right and wrong is severely impaired by a mental condition..

That being said, take a moment to consider your options. Getting revenge may not solve anyone's problems. The choice is yours, but look into professional counseling and therapy.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:04 am

Manic depression does not excuse someone's personal responsibility, BUT it does impair their ability to even meet certain responsibilities. A Bipolar person would not be excused of murder. Of course, not. But he wouldnt even go to regular jail here in the US. He would go to a criminal mental institution. Well you are right we do not know if he suffers or not, but if he does then this is only going to magnify the problem ESPECIALLY if he is really is bipolar. If he is agitated, trust me...you making him suffer is only going to make it worse. So really bind him from doing harm to himself and others. Divorce him...whatever you want to do.

If he was just being a jerk, I would say castrate the man, and do whatever you need to do for how he is treating your children. But as you stated something is off. He just might be psychotic. But I would not throw around the term bi-polar lightly. Part of being bi polar is being manic (agitated, angry, cant sleep, poor decision, etc), and then depressed (where he could be suicidal) and if you catch him at a low point doing one of revenge spell then it might end badly. Who knows. But keep us posted on this...I would love to hear the outcome. Im not telling you want to do, but be wise. However, if the reading says hes not...and hes just being a jerk then do as you wish. I would be glad to help you.

Ive heard the term ethics being discussed here, and this is one of those times when it should be deeply considered.

faith2008 · Unread post by **faith2008** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:47 pm

Thanks everyone ffor your replies. I have calmed down a bit since last night and I do not intend to do anything until I have had my reading done, BUT if he is just a jerk, then God help him, cause like they say "hell hath no furry like a woman scorned", add on top of that the fact that my kids are suffering and he WILL wish he was dead when I'm through with him. Right now though, I'm just staying calm and being patient. I will keep everyone posted though and I appreciate the prays.

Thanks so much,
Hope

MightyAphrodite · Unread post by **MightyAphrodite** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:07 pm

Calming down and getting counsel sounds wise. If I were in your shoes, I would do some protection work ASAP so you can get some space while you get your head together.

A couple months ago I discovered that my BF was cheating on me. Right before I confronted him, I put reversing powder in his shoes and inside his jacket lining. Then after I threw him out of my home, I lit candles dressed with Firey Wall of Protection oil to St. Michael. My ex isn't bi-polar, but I think he has Narcisstic Personality Disorder and I wanted to get his craziness out of my life. When people are unbalanced like that, they can freak out if they think you're leaving them (no matter what attrocity they did to you.)

Anyway, do some protection work to keep his negative influence out, while you sort through your decisions.

Brida · Unread post by **Brida** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:48 am

Listen to Aphrodite. She is wise in her recommendations to you.

You and your children are in my prayers.
-Brida

faith2008 · Unread post by **faith2008** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:25 pm

Brida

Thanks Brida. That means a lot! I am just completely confused right now. Part of me wants to hate him and part of me still loves him.

Brida · Unread post by **Brida** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:07 pm

Hi Faith.

You have a pm.

)

hugs,
Brida

Unread post by **Literarylioness** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:00 pm

faith2008

Whatever you may feel for him, he is the father of your children, what you do to him affects them. Always remember that. The father of your children will suffer when his children are grown and want nothing to do with him. He will feel like he lost a limb. You don't have to curse your husband, he is already cursed.

Now is time to work on healing your children. I would do some work with St. Michael to protect them from feeling this has something to do with them. Children believe everything is about them, even though as adults we know otherwise.

Also, what are you doing in the physical world? Are you in the process of a divorce? Make sure your children are taken care of. You might need to do some court work to make sure everything is in your favor.

Revenge is best served cold for a reason. The best revenge is done when the smoke clears and the mind is calm.

Mary

faith2008 · Unread post by **faith2008** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:35 pm

Literarylioness

Point well taken, thanks! I have taken some time to calm down and I plan on working on me and the kids first and foremost. Then I'll worry about him. Like you said though, his pain will come in due time and he did that to himself. There's nothing I could do that would ever be worse that what he has already done to himself and he doesn't even realize it yet. Thanks Mary.

Hope

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:19 pm

WOW! what a week.. this is the wildest request I've been asked yet. I did a mini vinegar jar spell for a friend (for her brother) earlier this week and it seems to be showing signs of progress. As a result, she's asked me to do some work for her.

The situation: she's been invovled with a married man for years - she doesn't care that he's married.. she finds it "convenient" (I don't judge). Now, her boyfriend's wife wants them to move away to be closer to her family. Obviously, my friend is livid about this turn of events. She's asked me to do everything from "destroy" the wife, to a vinegar jar to split them up, etc.

It's odd because she never seemed to care he was married until his wife apparently tried to "take him away" (out of state)

Anyway, any suggestions on this? How to get a man's wife to lose her control over him. My friend has his personal effects.. and she can get me the wife's photo and handwriting.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:30 pm

What do you mean by loose control? Are you implying that the wife has the upper hand in the marriage- that what she says goes? Are you sayin there is an undue influence and you want to tip the power structure of the relationship or are you looking for a divorce/separation conjure?

My best recommendation would be to perform a reading to find out if the case is worth taking as divorce conjure isn't the easiest to perform. There is a great deal that binds a husband and wife together such as social obligation, familial pressure, financial obligations etc. Usually divorce conjure requires work and some ability in the area. If you are relatively to new to such work a reading will determine if you are up to perform it. A moving candle spell can be used to help move the man away from his wife and closer to your friend.

If you seek to help the man gain more control of the situation work with John the Conqueror which will help him exert himself assertively and I Dominate My Woman can be used to give him control over his wife and therefore shift the balance of things. This product is a bit harsh so you can work with similar products of this line (Essence of Bend Over, Controlling, Domination, Commanding etc).

suzyparker · Unread post by **suzyparker** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:51 pm

This is a real twist of the tail.. I just got done talking with her.. apparently, she found out the husband (her lover) is all for this move - it's not the wife being a bossy shrew - she is now livid at him.. and wants his head.

I'm going to make this easy and give her a black candle, some blackberry leaves and a piece of black cloth and let her take her rage out on it

Cat has that spell posted on her revenge page and I've used it myself ion people in the past.. it's not pretty work.

I'm not justifying my friend's behavior with this man.. after all, you have a cheat as a lover, he'll probably lie/cheat on you, too.. BUT, turnabout does seem fair play in this case.

I just think it's more effective if the wronged party does it versus someone else (like me)

Shadileigh · Unread post by **Shadileigh** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:39 pm

First - A big thank you to everyone at Lucky Mojo and the brilliant people who have previously given me advise in this forum before. My knowledge, skills, and confidence has increased ten-fold since I discovered this site.

So Here's Some Background About My Latest Issue...

I am a member of a not-for-profit social club. I just discovered that the club's current president has been ripping off members and pocketing club funds. The club's former V.P. (who resigned when he learned about her theft) is working with me to compile the proof that we need to formally accuse her of fraud.

On top of this, she is a total B with a little itch towards anyone she sees as a threat to her popularity and social standing within the club (mainly myself and a few of my closest friends). Basically she's creating lies and bad-mouthing us to other members. Normally I wouldn't care what someone says about me, but she went too far with her latest bit of B.S. about my best friend. It's time to put her in her place.

I firmly believe that an eye for an eye isn't enough, unless you first busted a lip and earned a TKO for it.

Anyone have any creative ideas for something truly vengeful? My inner devil wants to play.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:04 pm

I find reversal work is even better in situations like this. They get a dose of their own medicine.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:00 pm

Stop Gossip work to keep her from speaking ill about you while you perform Reversal work to give her what she's been giving you. Add Pay Me for her to return the money, and also add Court Case formula if her financial fraud will lead to criminal charges.

ryue20 · Unread post by **ryue20** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:25 pm

I had a best friend for a few years now. Had so much in common and we were really close. I trusted him and he trusted me but in the end he betrayed me more than once. He spoke ill of me behind my back, shared my personal business with people, interfered in my relationship on more than one occasion and even managed to lead to the break up of my relationship. He even had the nerve to call me and talk shit after i decided to move on, push him out my life n forgive his transgressions. I am a forgiving guy but vengeful aint far below that. I could do to him as he did to me but i figure performing a heavy duty curse would be a much nicer gift since wat i mentioned is not even the half of it!

For the curse I decided to use the following:
Damnation vigil candle (was going to use a black skull candle but dont wanna kill him jus screw him bad. wat do u guys think?)

destruction oil, damnation oil, devils oil, crossing oil, goofer dust, graveyard dirt, war water, imflammatory confusion oil, revenge oil, black arts oil and break up oil to ruin his relationship with the girl he talked into leaving me. Gonna burn the candle on a picture of him with his name 9 times and his birthday.

Also gonna make a poppet baptized in his name and annointed with the oils above. stab it up with pins and bury it in a graveyard. Any and all suggestions, comments, thoughts welcome.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:05 am

Before anyone does any curse work, I always suggest that they get a good in-depth reading with a professional rootworker. They can help you come up with something that meets your needs, and also is justified. They can also help you come up with a good wording for your curse, because it should always be limited in some way (so you don't end up killing someone by being too broad).

For your case, this guy seems to have messed you up good, so really just a good strong Reversing work, maybe with a kick of Crossing thrown in for good measure, would probably end up hitting him pretty hard. And in equal proportion to what he doled out to you. But that's your choice.

I still recommend a reading and consultation to help you craft what you need without you ending up going overboard. You can find readers at http://www.readersandrootworkers.org.

And for goodness sake, don't forget to continually do STRONG cleansings and protections for yourself the ENTIRE time you are working this thing!

ryue20 · Unread post by **ryue20** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:51 pm

I gotta good reading from a member of the AIRR with the go ahead to do it. I also have several hysopp baths on hand. Have done some work so I am familiar with cleansing and everything. Also I have not ordered any of the supplies on the list. I thought before I did so it would be best to ask all of my wise peers for opinions and suggestions. I see your point about reverse work but I honestly do not feel he deserves to get off that easy. Thanks to him stealing my girlfriend and making her see me in such a bad light I can barely afford my apt lease. I really depended on her help after losing my roomate last year in an accident. I wanna hit him hard. No stranger to cursing someone and choosing my wording. I can handle that. My thing here is that like u said i do not wanna kill him just mess him up good physically, mentally, and or emotionally. Any suggestions for what of the items i listed above I can use to accomplish this?

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:02 pm

Well, I would ask the rootworker who read for you what they suggest you do. They know your case and what you are trying to acheive. They will be much more able to properly guide you knowing all your details, then us here on the forum just going by the little info here and without divinations.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:38 pm

If you want him to break up with someone I'd do that separate from the crossing, but that's just me.

For your revenge work I'd stick with Revenge, Crossing, and Black Arts. Those three would give you what you want. Damnation and Destruction, to me at least, carry a heavy-handed connotation. The former three will turns his life upside down and cause him pain. Destruction and Damnation is utter obliteration in my opinion.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:42 pm

Whew! great advice here.

ryue20 · Unread post by **ryue20** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:21 pm

Thank you all for your suggestions! And ConjureMan I agree, Great advice! Thanks for the oil suggestions. That's the level of hex I was attempting to cast.

Willowspell · Unread post by **Willowspell** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:34 pm

What did the AIRR reader suggest? Whatever information the reader gave you is far more insightful then we could suggest.

I always try to keep this in mind if I am considering jinx or curse. The punishment should fit the crime.
Find a way to inflict a similar situation to that of what was put upon you by this person.

Protect yourself ALWAYS when considering and doing negative work. While you may be or at least feel justified in your wishes to give maximum misery. Remember to take the proper precautions before doing this type of spell casting.

Good luck!

thelightfantastic · Unread post by **thelightfantastic** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:56 pm

There's no one spell that's going to cause maximum results or the most damage. You can do a basic crossing spell and cause serious damage depending on your intent and faith. I would suggest getting a crossing kit from Lucky Mojo and working that. In addition to that, you can also work a doll baby. Be explicit and clear with what you want to happen to the target. Same goes with any crossing/revenge spell you can find in the free archive.

If you want the person to get a taste of their own medicine, reversal work is also ideal. That sends back whatever they put out which is excellent for revenge. If you want to get rid of them, try Hot Foot products and/or spell kit. If this person has a habit of spreading lies and gossiping, you can use Stop Gossip products and/or spell kit or petition San Ramon (if you're comfortable working with Catholic saints). Alum is also good for shutting someone's mouth.

If you're still unsure of how to proceed, contact your AIRR reader for a consult.

stelselv · Unread post by **stelselv** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:44 pm

I am sick and tired of this person, i can't do anything anymore, i am being copied and copied and copied.... Feeling so frustrated..

Before i get a root worker to do a general Reversal mirror box, what can i do?

i have I CAN YOU CAN'T OIL and REVERSAL SACHET POWDER... does anybody know a general, ''stop copy cat'' spell..

thanks

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:05 pm

Well, I would do a freezer jar, and literally freezer their ability to copy you. In addition, you could do a binding spell dressed with calamus, licorice root, controlling oil/powder, knot weed, poppy seeds, and red pepperon a black figural candle. I would stick pens in their hands, and head of the candle to pin down their ability to copy you. If you wanted you can put black thread around doll.

www.luckymojo.com/freezer.html

I would use I can you can't so that YOU can get ahead. I wouldnt use it on reversal together. In fact, I wouldnt really use reversal in this case. I would just freezer, and stop their actions.

Ratan · Unread post by **Ratan** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:18 pm

I have been trying for years to work against two perpetrators of childhood abuse (against myself - they are family members). Whenever I do ANY kind of work against them, whether an out-and-out curse or "letting go with compassion" type of working, not only does the work fail to accomplish anything but I end up with a terrible streak of bad luck immediately after performing it. Why should I be getting this backlash, and what can I do about it? I appreciate any thoughts. Thank you.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:34 pm

Without knowing more about the situation, the perpetrators may be protected or this type of work may not be your strong suit. Contact a AIRR worker, schedule a consultation, ask for magical coaching. That way you will learn as you go and have an experience person to guide you in this type of work. Also there is on such thing as 'back lash' in hoodoo.

Spiritual Consultation and Rootwork Advice http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/in ... ork_Advice

Crossing, Jinxing, Hot Footing, Revenge and Break Up Workers http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/in ... _Break_Ups

YouTube · Unread post by **Miss Bri** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:52 pm

Jwmcclin is absolutely right in her advice and I would just add to it a bit--you ask about why you are getting backlash--well, without a reading its impossible to know exactly why but in the tradition of Hoodoo it is perfectly likely that these people do have protection on themselves and reversing to send back any negativity that may come your way. It is also possible that you are too close to the situation and might benefit from having a professional worker do the cursing for you.
Good luck,
Bri

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:37 pm

Exactly...didn't think to include that angle Miss Bri, being too close to the situation in some circumstances can be an issue.

beautiful · Unread post by **beautiful** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:38 pm

I have a friend whom I have helped in the past with money. I never asked for anything in return but his friendship. I found him an online job that works for him and now he ignores me, puts me last and forgotten what I have done for him. I need a spell to make him waste his money away, get fired, lose everything he owned. I tried talking to him but realizes that he is a selfish person who only cares about himself. I felt like I have dig up a devil. Please help me make this guy suffer. He doesn't deserve the life he has now.

How will I use a vinegar jar to apply to this situation? Any other methods please teach me.

Unread post by **Miss Tammie Lee** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:58 pm

Beautiful, true friends do not need to be bought. If you want to help help something or someone donate to a charity or cause which you feel drawn to, and make friends with members of that cause or charity.
What this person might have done might have been wrong to you but it sounds also like your heart and judgement might have been clouded.
http://www.luckymojo.com/kingsolomonwisdom.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/bath-clarity.html
You could contact a member of AIRR for both a reading and magical coaching:
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org
and there is an entire thread on vinegar jars just like the honey jar:
vinegar-jar-questions-and-answers-t5581.html
Good luck!

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:33 pm

Excellent advice Miss Tammie Lee!

Unread post by **Mary Bee** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:46 pm

Hi all:

My mother was forced to resign this week from a job she loved. It was a complete shock to her. Her boss and the higher-ups said it was because they had received "complaints from a lot of people" about how "intimidating" she was. They refused to give her any other reasons.
The next day, all her former colleagues were calling Mom and saying "We really liked you, we're totally gobsmacked and we never thought you were intimidating! WTF were they thinking?!"
We as a family think that the company is not doing well financially and the higher ups wanted to save their own necks, and Mom was a scapegoat.

She's so sad, and I frankly want to give these management cretins a huge can of whoopass. The workplace is about a 2 hour drive from me; laying a trick there would be possible but difficult. I have the names of the women who laid Mom off but I'd have to search for photos; I don't know if I can get any other personal concerns.

I was thinking of doing a mirrorbox to reflect their evil back at them and bury it in a graveyard. Or does anyone else have a better suggestion?

Thanks,
MaryBee