Re: Spells For True Love, True Commitment, Moving In, Engagement

Hollie · Unread post by **Hollie** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:28 pm

Hollie wrote:(Hollie, you selected a shade of honey-yellow for your text that was very difficult to read against this forum's pale background, so I scraped off the color formatting. Maybe a nice, deep, rich blue, green or purple next time? Something contrasty. Thanks. -- Miss Michaele)

Thanks for letting me know Miss Michaele. Have a blessed day

channyway9192 · Unread post by **channyway9192** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:40 am

Hey all, Im having a little issue I would luv feedback on...

ok I have been doing some work on a guy for a while , he seems to be very AFFECTED by my work, but it seems it has little EFFECT on em, (opinion) idk if our personalities are/have been clashing or what...

ok he's married, i did the breakup work n that worked on the couple,.but the individual man idk... he has alotta emotional baggage n also is VERY stubborn... he hides in this shell when he sees he's becoming vulnerable to me....

got a couple readings, one was soooo good n positive... we had our share of ups n downs, n i contributed sum of the emotional mishaps i admit.

l got another reading n it showd i needed 2 work some issues n i did.

so ok how can i break through this CANCER'S shell n open him up to ME

I have subliminaly been telling him and to my candles I'm the only one who has his back, cares, n loves him... so my ??? is how can I break this man's shell so he can realize what i been telling him all along we are ok now...

I wanna do a Saint Martha candle & an Essence Of Bend-Over candle but idk which one and when to do em...

HELLLLLP

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:13 pm

He has emotional baggage...that needs to be dealt with. You having his back and caring for him is not enough.

Saint Martha could force and dominate him to move on, but honestly, I would go with some healing work and perhaps clarity and wisdom to realize that this relationship was not for him.

In addition, you may want to do some Crucible of Courage work to help give him the strength to move on.

You are trying to go way too forceful as forcing someone to get over their feelings is probably not the way to go here.

channyway9192 · Unread post by **channyway9192** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:27 pm

Thanks STARS I think ur right bc in the long run and @ the end of the day he may wind up resenting ME bc he'll feel like yes im forcing him 2 move on when he's TRULY not ready to...

I think ima just back off n my let my sweet jar take a spin @ it ....

I'm his friend n i do care n love him but im not gonna and cant see me forcing him to do something he's not ready to do bc it can truly go either way n I end up still not having him...

thanx for the tip

moonmaiden · Unread post by **moonmaiden** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:02 pm

I have some ideas, I would like some opinions

First....
What do you think would happen if i soaked a Queen Elizabeth Root in rose water, with a few drops of look me over oil, follow me boy oil, then rubbed it with the 9 herb love herb mixture.
Then took a photo of the man i am after and burned it over, fire of love incense powder, come to me incense powder and Chuparrosa incense powder.
I would then dress the Queen Elizabeth Root with the ashes from the burned photo.
Adding it to a red flannel bag with parchment paper written in doves blood ink with his name + my name and tying it around the root with red string.
I would add cherry bark to the baggie, along with Coriander seeds.

What do you all think of that? What sort of outcomes would you expect? Is there anything i SHOULDN'T do, or should do differently, possibly some items that i do not need to use at all?

Any advice appreciated

Thanks in advance!! xox

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:26 pm

What is your objective? How can we tell you what you should do differently if we have to figure out what your objective is?

I think rather than having the forum guess or try to figure it out...it would be beneficial if you stated your circumstances or what you are trying to achieve with this ;

Personally I would not burn the photo but perhaps slightly singe it in the incense or pass it through the incense to help with the work.

What you have drawn up can be used to attract a new specific lover, or work on an already established relationship.

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:03 pm

Well, they are all love ingredients and the purpose seems to be to draw a man so I would expect it to work if it was my job.

The only thing slightly different would be that of the same opinion as starsinthesky7. Burning a photo has other associations to me and I might heat it in a frying pan first, then wrap it around the QE root or fold it in the right way and then pin it to the root.

//Dr. Johannes

moonmaiden · Unread post by **moonmaiden** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:50 pm

hello! Oh dear i am so sorry!

I am trying to strengthen his feelings, make him commit and be a little more needy and attentive.
WE are not dating, but he has admitted to having feelings for me, so i just need something to make it get to the next step(s).

OK - so don't burn the photo, Johannes why do you suggest heating it? What does that do??

If i wrap the QE root inside, should i tie it still?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:13 pm

Heating up the photo...heats the person up for you and cant put a little bit of heat to them to get to do what you want them to do for you.

Yes you can tie it with a red string.

Before you can even get him to commit to you, you need to get him accept his feelings, and actually draw him to you so the relationship can develop. I think you can do that with what you have done, but getting him to commit made need more work, and you will have to see what is holding him back through a reading.

moonmaiden · Unread post by **moonmaiden** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:28 am

yes i do plan on getting a reading very very soon!

just writing things in my book for possibly a later date

Can i ask...Thoughts on candles, primarily the pink penis candle,
would it be good for brining strong desire, feelings and love and lust
or would the naked pink adam figure be better?

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:44 am

Actually red candles are burned to draw strong desire, lust and passion. The Penis candles are sexual whereas the Adam candles can focus on many attributes. Pink candles are more about romantic love (http://www.luckymojo.com/candlemagic.html)

Unread post by **Dr Johannes** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:53 am

moonmaiden wrote:... Johannes why do you suggest heating it? What does that do??

If i wrap the QE root inside, should i tie it still?

Put the photo in a frying pan, add some Fire of Love Oil and just roast it a bit. Don´t burn it, just let it heat up until it smokes a little bit. The method is used to heat things or persons up a bit.
Sure you tie it.

//Dr. Johannes

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:33 am

Is there any vigil candle that is good to use to make once lover move out from his family home, into mine.

Unread post by **Mama Micki** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:11 am

Come to Me

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:35 am

Follow Me Boy will make him literally follow after you.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:27 am

Ali -

I have the follow my boy oil.
I have several different LM oils.

BUt it dont seem to get him

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:30 am

Last week i feeded my boyfriend with my urine in his coffe.

But i dont see any effect of it? I dont see any differnace?

Did i miss anyting?

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:26 am

Can you get a personal effect such as some hair of his? How are you using your oils? Do you use them with red and pink candles? Can you mix the follow me boy oil into some lotion and then put the lotion on his hands or body?

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:29 am

Well, he is still your boyfriend, right? Is he cheating on you or anything? He may just not be the best at showing his emotions. You might want to try products to boost his sex drive such as Nature or John the Conqueror if that is the issue.

Unread post by **aura** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:45 am

Hi Amilo,

although the following thread concerns menstrual blood rather than urine, the questions concerning efficacy are somewhat similar. Therefore reading through the thread below may supply you with information that can help:

menstrual-blood-questions-and-answers-t4800.html

Hope it helps

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:04 am

DelArca wrote:Can you get a personal effect such as some hair of his? How are you using your oils? Do you use them with red and pink candles? Can you mix the follow me boy oil into some lotion and then put the lotion on his hands or body?

i did put some marriage , follow me boy oil on his working shirt.

i even put some of the oils on myself.... like stay with me, fire of love do as i say, etc..have many oils.

i even put 8 differents oils, on a pink candle and put my petition, and our photo under the candle, and even did the psalm 23 pray.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:06 am

DelArca wrote:Well, he is still your boyfriend, right? Is he cheating on you or anything? He may just not be the best at showing his emotions. You might want to try products to boost his sex drive such as Nature or John the Conqueror if that is the issue.

yes he is

no he is not cheating or doing anything, he can be very good in showing his emotions. But i want more. Not only when he "wants"

thats why i buyed so many oils

I read about feed blood or urine, when u dont have your period.
But it dont seem to make any effect.
The thing is i dont know what to look after.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:11 am

aura wrote:Hi Amilo,

although the following thread concerns menstrual blood rather than urine, the questions concerning efficacy are somewhat similar. Therefore reading through the thread below may supply you with information that can help:

menstrual-blood-questions-and-answers-t4800.html

Hope it helps

Thanx Aura!

I have read it several times, but i dont give me the answers to my questions.

Like how long time does it take for it to show any sign, or start to work.
And what effects can i get from feeding him. What is the standard sign?
How will his behavior change towards me?

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:17 am

I think that it can strengthen the bond and keep him more loyal to you. From everything I have read on the LM the time frame to see results from your tricks usually works in threes -- three days, three weeks, three months. If no change after the three months, you may want to try it again etc.

If you really want to control him etc you might try the controlling products, bend over plus love me on red candles for passion.

It sounds like you have a pretty decent relationship already, so congrats and good luck with your goals.

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:19 am

It sounds like you are doing good, I think now your persistent faith and patience will get you your desires.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:27 am

how long does it usally take to see any signs from the oils?
and when can i take it, as it did not work?

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:30 am

I try to have, as we have been on and off, for 4,5 years.

I have love me oil and commanding oil. I tought it would be better with this one before controlling or bend over

I did not know that its the same time frame for the oils, when u just use them by itself. ( 3 rule )

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:43 am

Hmm that is awhile to be dating someone without a stronger commitment. I suggest using divination to find out what the holdup is and then focus all your efforts to clear up that area.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:47 am

Well, love is not the issue.
His family is!

We cant live without each other

Unread post by **aura** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:37 am

Hi Amilo,

have you considered getting a reading by a member of the AIRR? (http://www.readersandrootworkers.org) Your worker will also then be able to develop a working plan on how best to approach the situation you're in.

Finally, my 2c is that if the family is the issue, that's what you should be working on. Working a honey jar (http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatspells.html#honeyjar) with his family and you in it could help improve the relationship with them both from their side and yours.

Blessings and best of luck.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:49 am

Hi Aura!

I was working with a rootworker from AIRR

and yes, she did tell me a honey jar is the next step, but it cost a bit, and right now i dont have the money.
So i look for cheeper, easy way to start something myself.
Like some vigil candle sat on MISC altar.
But i dont know what is best

Maybe a fire wall protection, for now.
so they stop interfer our relationship and stop threaten us.

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:56 am

What about oregano and law keep away products . . . they are good for meddling in laws as well as cops or IRS etc. You said yourself that love is not the issue, so focus on keeping his parents out of your business.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:27 am

Hi Del Arca

How do u mean i should use oregano?

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:51 am

http://www.herb-magic.com/oregano.html

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:09 pm

Since you are trying to get him to literally move, get some Follow Me Boy powder and mix it with some dirt. Lay this out by his current residence where he'll walk through it and then walk him to your home. You do this by sprinkling a bit of the mixture at each of the crossroads from his house to yours basically leading him to come to you.

If you can gather his foot print you can also walk that to your house.

Unread post by **ConjureMan** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:19 pm

Driving in-laws away, or keeping them away isn't the way to get committment from a man. Good men often have strong healthy relationships with their mothers. The key is not to break this or somehow to keep that away from you, but to sweeten the in-laws, especially the mother, over to you. A honey jar for all of you can both include you into the family and get him to see you as someone he can committ to and bring home to his family.

As for feeding him urine, if your intent is to gain committment and make him hot for you try sexual fluids and menstural blood first. Urine tends to be more of a dominating thing though can work well for love issues. Add a bit of menstural blood to his food/drinks or some sexual fluid while praying.

Some people can do this once and get a great response, others need to do it a few times and continue to do so here or there from time to time to receive the response they want. Like all magical work remain patient and consistent.

Unread post by **jwmcclin** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:39 pm

Exactly ConjureMan.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:33 am

I have buyed many oils, i put them on candles and in the bath tub, on myself.

But the questions is i even put it on my boyfriends shirts.... follow me boy, marriage oil.
But he seem to be to strong for it.
I cant see any differens at all....and i heard that follow me boy should be so good...and gives good results fast.
I dont get anything.....

do i do something wrong?
is there anything i should say when i put it? I do say what i want it to happen.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:07 am

1. This is not just for you...this is for everyone. I think people have misunderstood many things about hoodoo. Fast results is one of the misconceptions I am seeing too often on this board. There is no such thing as a FOR SURE fast spell, and one product is not more effective than the other. It is all based on circumstances. It varies from person to person. Just because you buy follow me boy, put it on your boyfriend's shirts doesn't mean it is going to work fast.

It is not about follow me boy working so good and having fast results. Its about your skill, circumstances, and if you are using the right products for your situation.

2. Have you had a reading on this situation? If you have not had a cohesive, and effective reading along with understanding if you should do the work yourself.

3. Time frame. Hoodoo is not a "ready-made pop it in the microwave" magic. You are not going to get instant results. Again, this is rootWORK. And you are going to have to work to get what you want especially given the circumstances whatever they may be.

So....your next move would be to A) get a consultation and/or look through the forum on how to apply oils, set lights, and do spells for yourself. B) get a reading to see if what you are doing is taking to the work C) within this reading make sure you understand what products to use and D) make sure you understand is it possible to get what you want, and what you have to work through to get it.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:11 am

I have looked the forum, so i know how to dress the candle, what to put to the candle spell, and i do the same thing others do.
I also burn the candle 2 times a day etc.....
Maybe im not good for this thing

From what i know, nothing should be impossible to use or my situation right now.

trish76 · Unread post by **trish76** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:38 am

Amilo,

Another important aspect of rootwork is faith in your work. I saw that you had another post about stay with me and reconciliation products. From what I gather, your man was not with you, you used the reconciliation products and got your ex back. Don't self-sabotage yourself already by thinking you are not good for the work. I have seen many posts from the professionals on this forum where they stress that if you don't have enough faith in yourself and what you are doing then perhaps you need to either step back from the situation or hire someone to work for you. If you have hired someone, then you need to trust that they are working hard to get you your desired results. Constantly questioning the efficacy of everything being done is counterproductive.

It's not just about dressing and what to put on the candle. Think of it kind of like cooking, you can have the exact recipe, and all the ingredients laid out, but if you sit around constantly thinking it's not coming out right or that it's not cooking fast enough, chances are you are not going to be satisfied with the outcome. If you know nothing should be impossible for your situation, then you should have faith to know that it is working as well.

Unread post by **aura** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:44 am

Stars: thank you for such a wonderful response!

My own 2c is that work that is rooted in doubt is badly situated to succeed from the outset! Work in FAITH and with PATIENCE. It's good practice in this McWorld of ZenCrafters: enlightenment in just under an hour....not.

Finally, Amilo: while there is not doubt that the situation with your BF is upsetting - keep in mind that you've been given excellent advice by experienced rootworkers in this forum as well as by your own rootworker in the AIRR as read in the following threads (feeded-him--t12865.html and move-out-t12831.html). Rather than question why your work on your BF is ineffective, perhaps you should question why you are not working on the facet most have suggested you consider: his family!

Asking the same question over and over again won't yield different results nor will it change the root of the issue that is causing difficulties in your relationship.

Some clarity and-or road opening work for yourself can help you see clear and move forward effectively.

Blessings and best of luck

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:26 am

Except where in anything Amilo said about her boyfriend and his parents does it sound like they have a healthy relationship? Of course we only get one side of the story, but it sounds like he wants to be with his girlfriend of 5 years and the parents constantly get in the way. She said they threaten her. That does not sound like a man who just happens to have a 'healthy' relationship with his mom.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:56 am

Thats true, we have a good relationship, when we can, as long as his parents dont know about us, but how long can we continue this.
Anyway now he has told them, and i have told how they akted towards me.
And his dad told him, that he will help him forget about me.

so i have to do something .... and i need a help how to get him out from parents home, and move into mine.

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:00 am

Amilo are you both very young? Perhaps that is part of the issue here? Do you also live with your parents? Do you go to school or work?

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:01 am

Thank you so much trish and aura!!

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:06 am

he 24, me 28, but the thing is that i have a child from the past. that is a big issue for his family...they are not normal...

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:07 am

i live in my home home, have a steady job, my own car etc.... he is the one that dont have anything of it

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:09 am

dont know if it was good idea, but i used hot foot vigil candle, on his fmaily ..mom dad and brother.
I got it set on MISC.

to have them back of if they cant accept their´s sons choice for me.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:20 am

Ali -
how do i gather a footprint?

DelArca · Unread post by **DelArca** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:33 am

Ok, you and him are definitely old enough. Hot foot is a really strong spell I know, but I don't have experience with it. Do you know why he doesn't have a job? Maybe he is traditional and embarrassed about having no material goods to offer you and your child?

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:43 am

Well to hot foot someone's family is probably not going to be effective especially if they have a strong bond with their family. He is only 24 and is probably still dependent on his family. So I just dont see this as being effective. Oh and the hot foot is not going to make them accept you either.

In other posts you state why your work is not taking and hes not proposing to you and behavior is not changing. His family does NOT like you, and he doesn't have a job either. Its obvious he depends on them for support of some kind, and that is his family.

Again, the advice for you is to get a reading. You may just be wasting your time on a guy that is not going to grow up any time soon, and is not ready to break out from the wings of his parents. If that is not the reason then he may just respect his parents opinion as those are his parents, and knows that you will not fit into the values of his family

Once again, you need to get a reading. You are just wasting your time and hard earned money if you continue this work, and doing random rootwork that you THINK are going to help, but they probably arent.

www.readersandrootworkers.com

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:48 am

he has a job, but he dont have a steady.... he goes on hours´ i dont know what u call it in english.

and he also works in his dads company.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:50 am

He can stand up for himself.
He dont need to live home, people in his age and from his country all hema familys and children are married.
So he dont need the support from his family.

issue is that his family dont accept me, and one issue is that i have a child from before.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:55 am

Stars -

If he would stand to their opinion and dont see me fit in....then he would not come back.
Love is not the problem here.

And he did tell them again about us last week, before they went to their country.
So we will wait and see how he will talk again with them, when they come back.
He said he just want their understanding. etc

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:56 am

So how is hot foot suppose to get them to accept you?

Hot foot is not going to get them to like you more.

Obviously he feels some need to live at home, especially if he does not have a steady job AND he works for his dad.

AND he LIVES with them....its really going to be hard to hot foot them if he LIVES with them.

The steps you are doing are not going to be effective for your situation, which is why I keep recommending that you need professional rootwork help. Also, you need to get some professional help for the progress of the love work as well.

Unread post by **starsinthesky7** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:21 am

Aura...

that was VERY well put, and an excellent response for Amilo. Hopefully that advice will be taken.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:26 am

I will try to be more positive and have more faith in everything i do and in the rootworker i have.

Amilo · Unread post by **Amilo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:32 am

why i did it (hot foot) is to get them to back off. if they cant accept his choise of me.

he knows that he needs to go forward with me if he wants to be with me, and that i will not take him back if he dont tell them and make any moves.
like moving in with me, tell them etc.

he did tell them, now i wait for next step.
he said himself, that he cant live without me, he will never be able to love anyone else.
and as my rootworkers said, our relationship is good for him.
And as she said aslo, he just need a kick in the ass, as he is a bit emotional lazy.

i just want to try do some things on my own too.....to help him and our relationship....
so thats why i lit some candles myself, with all the oils i have. And put some vigil candles at MISC.

Unread post by **Devi Spring** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:13 am

Since these two threads - about feeding body fluids for control, and hot foot, etc - deal with the same situation, I have merged them. Amilo, now just post all questions regarding the situation with your boyfriend in this one thread, so it will be easy for forum readers to find and keep track of. Thanks!